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tiewan
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Posted - 2007.02.15 05:15:00 -
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I flew around all day in 0.0 and lowsec and didn't even get targeted once.
How can there be risk vs. reward if there is no risk?
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Xiator Z
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Posted - 2007.02.15 05:21:00 -
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Turn on your map, check the view option "ships destroyed in last 24 hours", head to the big red blobs in 0.0, and enjoy your bbq there.
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EPSILON DELTA
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Posted - 2007.02.15 06:31:00 -
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0.0 is generally empty, nobody camps a system only 1 or 2 people pass by everyday
if you don't like using maps, you will know there's a camp when you wake up in a bubble
good luck on your way back to empire 
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.15 06:52:00 -
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Meh.. low sec and 0.0 camps are the big boogie man of Eve.. Granted you can expect a camp most times on the choke points to 0.0 systems but its not really the rule.. Make it past the chokes and your pretty much free sailing in 0.0.. Just make sure you use common sense and keep an eye on the local you'll be nearly as safe as you would be in Empire..
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Katrina Coreli
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.15 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: EPSILON DELTA 0.0 is generally empty, nobody camps a system only 1 or 2 people pass by everyday
if you don't like using maps, you will know there's a camp when you wake up in a bubble
good luck on your way back to empire 
Tbh i think his way back to empire if he does that may be quicker and easier than he thinks
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.02.15 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Katrina Coreli
Tbh i think his way back to empire if he does that may be quicker and easier than he thinks
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.15 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Meh.. low sec and 0.0 camps are the big boogie man of Eve.. Granted you can expect a camp most times on the choke points to 0.0 systems but its not really the rule.. Make it past the chokes and your pretty much free sailing in 0.0.. Just make sure you use common sense and keep an eye on the local you'll be nearly as safe as you would be in Empire..
No, you just caught them on an off day, there are camps everywhere in 0.0, even in the systems no-one ever goes to, and you will be wtfpwned by a T2 fitted BS or maybe even a dread before long.
Stay in empire plz. ----------
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Meh.. low sec and 0.0 camps are the big boogie man of Eve.. Granted you can expect a camp most times on the choke points to 0.0 systems but its not really the rule.. Make it past the chokes and your pretty much free sailing in 0.0.. Just make sure you use common sense and keep an eye on the local you'll be nearly as safe as you would be in Empire..
No, you just caught them on an off day, there are camps everywhere in 0.0, even in the systems no-one ever goes to, and you will be wtfpwned by a T2 fitted BS or maybe even a dread before long.
Stay in empire plz.
A dread? WTF am I flying around in.. A POS?
Trust..
Its safe as can be in 0.0 after your past the chokes.. But he is right in that there is always the chance of a random bubble camp but in my experience as long as you keep off the highways you will have clear sailing.. And they way to check the chokes is to make a scout alt and position it at the place you want to cross over to 0.0 and then use it to see if a bubble camp is on the other side.. If so then you just lost a shuttle and a no skill alt.. If its not camped.. Well.. Riches await for the bold.. 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Meh.. low sec and 0.0 camps are the big boogie man of Eve.. Granted you can expect a camp most times on the choke points to 0.0 systems but its not really the rule.. Make it past the chokes and your pretty much free sailing in 0.0.. Just make sure you use common sense and keep an eye on the local you'll be nearly as safe as you would be in Empire..
No, you just caught them on an off day, there are camps everywhere in 0.0, even in the systems no-one ever goes to, and you will be wtfpwned by a T2 fitted BS or maybe even a dread before long.
Stay in empire plz.
A dread? WTF am I flying around in.. A POS?
Trust..
Its safe as can be in 0.0 after your past the chokes.. But he is right in that there is always the chance of a random bubble camp but in my experience as long as you keep off the highways you will have clear sailing.. And they way to check the chokes is to make a scout alt and position it at the place you want to cross over to 0.0 and then use it to see if a bubble camp is on the other side.. If so then you just lost a shuttle and a no skill alt.. If its not camped.. Well.. Riches await for the bold.. 
Nope, no riches either, even if by some miracle you survive the innumerable gankers, you'll still be poor, miserable and ugly. True story. ----------
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:06:00 -
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You must suck at eve then as its great iskies rattin in 0.0 and popping the odd unwary faction fitted npcer who thinks his alliance space is all safe and stuff.. 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus You must suck at eve then as its great iskies rattin in 0.0 and popping the odd unwary faction fitted npcer who thinks his alliance space is all safe and stuff.. 
In fact there are no rats or PvEers in 0.0, just lonely people looking for said nonexistant rats, continually getting podkilled back to empire. ----------
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:09:00 -
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Mirasta
Caldari Aggressive Tendencies Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.15 09:12:00 -
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Sarcasam FTW?
Of couse, You are now reading my sig.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.15 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mirasta Sarcasam FTW?
Sarcasam is not speeled tat whey! ----------
IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! Privateers FTW |

Mirasta
Caldari Aggressive Tendencies Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.15 09:17:00 -
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mi Engrish is badd oki?
Of couse, You are now reading my sig.
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.02.15 09:49:00 -
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go to a chokepoint  ___________________________
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto. Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.15 09:57:00 -
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oh they're there alright. keep looking, if u actually want to 
DE
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AnxietyAttack
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.15 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: AnxietyAttack on 15/02/2007 10:45:31 You are probably safer in 0.0 once past the chokepoint's than you are in empire. The map is your friend but once you start to head into alliance territory or warzone's, the chance of gate camp's, bubble's and patrol's jump's up dramatically.
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OfferoCanaanite
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Posted - 2007.02.15 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: OfferoCanaanite on 15/02/2007 17:11:37 Pls dont waste apostrophes like that. A homeless person could write for a week with the amount of apostrophes you have needlessly written.
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Reandom Traas
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Posted - 2007.02.15 17:59:00 -
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I took an alt for a scenic tour through 0.0 and was thinking the same as you, not as dangerous as I thought. Then...oh..thats odd, I cant warp...oh...so thats a bubble...ohh..there i am back in empire in my clone.
Went through about 30 jumps all in peace and quiet until that.
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2007.02.15 20:36:00 -
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TBH 0.0 space is actually MUCH safer than low sec ever could be.
Its HUGE and is mostly empty, there are few stations and agents for people to collect around and alliances dont have the manpower to police an entire region of space (just the spots they travel thru and use) which leaves most of the area up for grabs.
Just dont do something like plop down a POS in someone elses region, they might overlook you flying way off on your own but they arent going to let you set up a POS.
Gatecamps are about the most booring thing you can possible do in eve, nobodys going to run a camp in the middle of nowhere.
If you realy want to see a gate camp go into a system 1 jump from 0.0, theres going to be 1 or 2 systems that you MUST travel thru in order to cross over from empire to 0.0 and that is where you will find your gatecamps.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.15 20:49:00 -
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I jumped through two gate camps in my shuttle. The funny part is that with WTZ, pirates don't have the patience to sit there and come up with new ways to molest EVE's many bottle-neck jumps.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.15 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I jumped through two gate camps in my shuttle. The funny part is that with WTZ, pirates don't have the patience to sit there and come up with new ways to molest EVE's many bottle-neck jumps.
Your new here aren't you? you must've missed it when tiller makes his tell all I'm uber posts that reveal how to do things *Snip* Not appropriate, email [email protected] with a link to the sig for a reason why - hutch |

Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2007.02.15 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: tiewan
How can there be risk vs. reward if there is no risk?
Because there's no reward either.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.16 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I jumped through two gate camps in my shuttle. The funny part is that with WTZ, pirates don't have the patience to sit there and come up with new ways to molest EVE's many bottle-neck jumps.
Your new here aren't you? you must've missed it when tiller makes his tell all I'm uber posts that reveal how to do things
About as new as frigates, buddy. I was minmatar back in beta. Thanks for making yourself look like a fool, saves me the trouble.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I jumped through two gate camps in my shuttle. The funny part is that with WTZ, pirates don't have the patience to sit there and come up with new ways to molest EVE's many bottle-neck jumps.
Your new here aren't you? you must've missed it when tiller makes his tell all I'm uber posts that reveal how to do things
About as new as frigates, buddy. I was minmatar back in beta. Thanks for making yourself look like a fool, saves me the trouble.
Beta? You must have been inactive for a very long time. Breaking out of a camp with a Shuttle is nothing to brag about. They are, for all intents and purposes, impossible to tackle, unless the pilot is a nub and decloaks first after jumping into the camp, then fumbles about with alighnment before finally attempting the warp.
As far as WTZ into a camp, Shuttles pop easily if you have the right fitted ship in the flight path 
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Myndarlegur
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Posted - 2007.02.16 12:47:00 -
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log off tactics work too well
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Myndarlegur
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Posted - 2007.02.16 12:47:00 -
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log off tactics work too well
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.16 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I jumped through two gate camps in my shuttle. The funny part is that with WTZ, pirates don't have the patience to sit there and come up with new ways to molest EVE's many bottle-neck jumps.
Your new here aren't you? you must've missed it when tiller makes his tell all I'm uber posts that reveal how to do things
About as new as frigates, buddy. I was minmatar back in beta. Thanks for making yourself look like a fool, saves me the trouble.
Beta? You must have been inactive for a very long time. Breaking out of a camp with a Shuttle is nothing to brag about. They are, for all intents and purposes, impossible to tackle, unless the pilot is a nub and decloaks first after jumping into the camp, then fumbles about with alighnment before finally attempting the warp.
As far as WTZ into a camp, Shuttles pop easily if you have the right fitted ship in the flight path 
Or they blow some decent sized smartbombs; I never give pirates much credit, they only reason they ever do good is because I stop paying attention. Same could be said for anyone whose a victim of piracy. Everything benefits the victim.
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Maxine Blade
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:40:00 -
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Selling Cyno services to get into 0.0 and bypassing the gate camps. Eve-mail me in game.
Current cost is 4mil ISK base. 500k extra for each frig, 1mil for a cruiser, 2 mil for Industrials. 4 mil for Freighters.
I only allow a maximum of 4 Frigs or 2 AFs, or 3 Cruisers, and as many Industrials or Freighters as you want.
Great way to make a living :)
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