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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
695
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Posted - 2016.04.09 03:35:32 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:I think you missunderstand his point. He is not talking about the way we play nor what we enjoy about the game, but the influence society has on our dicisions, how and what we play. And that is correct and kind of obvious.
And if not, then i don' t get it either.
I definitely understand what he's saying. I disagree. The influence of other players' actions has zero influence on a large number of players. That's my point. Assuming that's the case is being unaware of a pretty decent number of playstyles. |
pushdogg
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2016.04.09 03:46:04 -
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Eve is whatever you want it to be.
Eve is your game.
By labeling it, you are limiting yourself.
Throw caution to the wind, and figure out what Eve is on your own. |
Omega Jovakko
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
308
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Posted - 2016.04.09 03:50:07 -
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Hey, do you hate that guy? you can kill him
Hey, do you like that guy? You can be his friend, And kill him later!
Hey, do you like that ship? you can buy it/build it
Hey, do you have friends? You can give them ships (And kill them)
Essentially eve.
"that's just blatant Anti-Caldari Propaganda, this Janitor must be arrested at once!"
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Meryl SinGarda
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
917
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Posted - 2016.04.09 06:14:00 -
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It's a sociopath simulator
But really, I've been away for quite a while due to reasons, but my goals in EVE are always:
- Get power
- Shoot lasers at asteroids
- Look for someone to kill, maybe
- Take their corpse
- Put it in a box
- Drop some buildings onto a planet
But now that I've returned after almost a year, it's like:
Why the hell am I in an NPC corp?
What's this minigame thing?
Where are people getting this armor?
Can I still hoard corpses?
Where am I?
Dafuq is this?!
I dunno I guess that's EVE
GÖÑ Intergalactic Serial Killer GÖÑ
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5025
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Posted - 2016.04.09 06:45:18 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Scotsman Howard wrote:
You name it, you can probably do it in Eve.
-I wanne eat something, frozen food maybe after i thaw it, or order a pizza to the belt i'm mining in. -I wanne build a farm on a planet and bring some seed into the ground -I wanne get a lapdance from a exotic dancer -I wanne watch a janitor(or better a exotic dancer) cleaning my captains quarters and when i'm tired of this, i wanne visit the tattoo studio on my station by walking out of my cq and get a new tattoo or pearcing You get the point. 
Ditto. You can pick 400+ ways of being a spaceship, and starting April 27th you'll also be able to be a space station screensaver, but being a human being and doing human stuff does not belong in EVE.
In other words, a sandbox only allows to play with the sand someone puts in it. And EVEs' sandbox is notoriously missing sand. |
Tiberius Seraph
Jiangshi Corporation
Warped Intentions
29
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Posted - 2016.04.09 07:30:36 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Again, stop telling other people what the right way is to enjoy EVE
Pray, do point me to where I say to people how they should play EVE in order to enjoy it - you know, like "stop roaming the galaxy" or "stop mining endlessly" or "stop having pvp tournaments in FW" or "everyone go to nullsec" or "if you are not doing xyz you are not doing it right" - any single instance in this thread.
Doing so, besides being utterly futile and egocentric, would be contrary to the very definition of what EVE is, as I wrote it down initially; in a game that simulates a social structure, even the developers avoid doing that - that's the modus operandi of theme-park games.
You are either not able to understand what I'm saying, or you are deliberately attributing to me intentions I do not have, based on your own convictions (or both). Nobody is trying to take away your liberty to choose how you see and play EVE; we're just having a discussion here.
Maybe you should be a bit less sensitive, and stop putting in people's mouths things they've not said, just because you believe they said them. |
Dani Gallar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2016.04.09 08:44:06 -
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Tiberius Seraph wrote:From CCP's point of view, I think it matters a lot - because it's a point you have to handle with care if you want to attract new customers.
It also have to be handled with care not to loose the customers they already have and this is something that have been and most likely will continue to be an issue. My personal opinion is that change should come slowly in EVE and that CCP should focus on improving what they already have rather then attempt to 'rebrand' the game into something different.
There is a huge risk in rebranding and especially if it's done in order to appeal to a more 'casual' crowd of mainstream MMO:s, these players will for the most part find EVE overwhealming and 'unfair' since they can be preyed upon in a way they are not used to from their old MMO:s. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2016.04.09 11:23:28 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:It's a sociopath simulator
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
51
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Posted - 2016.04.09 13:48:58 -
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The Human Simulator: Space Edition.
Where people can RP their best and worst dreams and intentions through the manipulation of space submarines, and other people. It's (probably) the deepest, craziest political and economic sim you can get. |
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
Circle-Of-Two
98
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Posted - 2016.04.11 15:07:40 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Scotsman Howard wrote:
You name it, you can probably do it in Eve.
-I wanne eat something, frozen food maybe after i thaw it, or order a pizza to the belt i'm mining in. -I wanne build a farm on a planet and bring some seed into the ground -I wanne get a lapdance from a exotic dancer -I wanne watch a janitor(or better a exotic dancer) cleaning my captains quarters and when i'm tired of this, i wanne visit the tattoo studio on my station by walking out of my cq and get a new tattoo or pearcing You get the point.
I see.
You have not figured out how to get past "The Door" in the captains quarters yet have you? All those options and so much more are available just beyond it.
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Anton Karnak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2016.04.14 03:32:12 -
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Eve is Gotham with no Batman. |
Jacques d'Orleans
2765
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Posted - 2016.04.14 03:48:55 -
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Anton Karnak wrote:Eve is Gotham with no Batman.
Thank god, who needs a borderline psychopath in spandex?
When you walk down that path, what's next, a dingbat declaring an Imperium? Oh, wait...
The beginning of the End
Never drink anything that only gets a lukewarm recommendation from an Australian infantryman!
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Murael Madjenko
Eleven Dimensions
27
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Posted - 2016.04.14 09:08:02 -
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Easy answer: This is EVE!
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Kharamete
Royal Assent
140
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Posted - 2016.04.14 09:36:05 -
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[double post]
CCP FoxFour: "... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB."
My little youtube videos can be found here
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Kharamete
Royal Assent
140
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Posted - 2016.04.14 09:36:56 -
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Ultimately Eve is a game where you play against other humans, and have to play along with the monkey nature of humans: hierarchical, social, organised cooperatives who, quite often, jump up and down and beat sticks in the ground to appear more than they are. Nothing in Eve is about systems, AI, the environment. Even PVE functions to feed the monkey sensibilities and need for display.
CCP FoxFour: "... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB."
My little youtube videos can be found here
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