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Commander A9 The Scope Gallente Federation 701	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:16:21 - [1] - Quote Hey, guys. Without EVElopedia, what is the next best thing for players to build and update a wiki community based on EVE? And hell, what do the devs plan to do about all their in-game links stating "refer to EVElopedia for more information?" Hell, alot of training agents and new career agents had links to EVElopedia to teach new pilots the ins and outs. And the fake Pax Ammaria book simply states "This book has a bit of a history" linking directly to an EVElopedia article-an article that no longer exists. I'd say killing EVElopedia was a REALLY bad idea! Recommendations: -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -STOP NERFING EVERYTHING! Join Live Events!
Pix Severus Empty You 3865	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:18:28 - [2] - Quote Next best thing. -ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1152	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:20:03 - [3] - Quote The most comprehensive Eve wiki that I'm aware of is Eve University's wiki. As for the links in game, feel free to submit a report every time you see something that looks out of place. I'm sure references to the Evelopedia are all over the place and CCP could probably use a hand finding them. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Commander A9 The Scope Gallente Federation 701	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:22:35 - [4] - Quote Hmm, so be it then. Thanks. Recommendations: -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -STOP NERFING EVERYTHING! Join Live Events!
Lulu Lunette ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 353	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:39:03 - [5] - Quote Commander A9 wrote: I'd say killing EVElopedia was a REALLY bad idea! Agreed 100%. F. @lunettelulu7
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 3149	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:13:16 - [6] - Quote The first week after they killed it I tried accessing it or googling for articles I knew were on it several dozen times. Pretty much says how much use it actually saw.
The Golden Serpent Tzedakah Aegis Militia 154	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:22:22 - [7] - Quote lol report everytime...hey let me pay this company to work FOR them, to completely NOT fix the actual problem, there's an idea!
Salt Foambreaker Greedy Pirates 25	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:27:44 - [8] - Quote ISD Fractal wrote: The most comprehensive Eve wiki that I'm aware of is Eve University's wiki. As for the links in game, feel free to submit a report every time you see something that looks out of place. I'm sure references to the Evelopedia are all over the place and CCP could probably use a hand finding them. We could have a protest, everyone could submit a ticket for each one we find
Kamahl Daikun Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy 127	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:39:25 - [9] - Quote Evelopedia was like that creepy uncle who molested you as a kid. But now you're in college and your uncle happens to be an expert in your field. So molestation seems more like a fair trade. Now you're out of college and your uncle doesn't want anything to do with you anymore because you're too old. So you go talk to your dad, Google, and find out how awesome he is. Plenty of information with no cleveland steamers.
W33b3l The Scope Gallente Federation 78	Posted - 2016.04.11 20:27:10 - [10] - Quote Kamahl Daikun wrote: Evelopedia was like that creepy uncle who molested you as a kid. But now you're in college and your uncle happens to be an expert in your field. So molestation seems more like a fair trade. Now you're out of college and your uncle doesn't want anything to do with you anymore because you're too old. So you go talk to your dad, Google, and find out how awesome he is. Plenty of information with no cleveland steamers. You can be really weird some times lol.
Dani Gallar University of Caille Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2016.04.11 20:40:01 - [11] - Quote Kamahl Daikun wrote: Evelopedia was like that creepy uncle who molested you as a kid. But now you're in college and your uncle happens to be an expert in your field. So molestation seems more like a fair trade. Now you're out of college and your uncle doesn't want anything to do with you anymore because you're too old. So you go talk to your dad, Google, and find out how awesome he is. Plenty of information with no cleveland steamers. Even though I agree completely on Google being awesome this is probably one of the weirdest comparisons I have ever seen.
Kamahl Daikun Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy 128	Posted - 2016.04.11 21:08:42 - [12] - Quote Dani Gallar wrote: Kamahl Daikun wrote: Evelopedia was like that creepy uncle who molested you as a kid. But now you're in college and your uncle happens to be an expert in your field. So molestation seems more like a fair trade. Now you're out of college and your uncle doesn't want anything to do with you anymore because you're too old. So you go talk to your dad, Google, and find out how awesome he is. Plenty of information with no cleveland steamers. Even though I agree completely on Google being awesome this is probably one of the weirdest comparisons I have ever seen. My mind works like an amateur porno featured in a North Korean holding cell awaiting public execution. I'm awesome to be around at work.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1627	Posted - 2016.04.11 23:24:28 - [13] - Quote I have removed an odd/off-topic post and those quoting it. Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Lulu Lunette ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 356	Posted - 2016.04.12 00:05:53 - [14] - Quote Here is another site that you can use if the uni wiki is missing stuff. @lunettelulu7
Gosakumori Noh Hematology Advancement Program I N G L O R I O U S 786	Posted - 2016.04.12 00:58:44 - [15] - Quote Almost every day I am irritated by the removal of EVElopedia. Didn't like maintaining it? Fine. Whatever. Don't maintain it. I mean, really, developing a compelling intellectual property that people want to search through is hard work. Yes, I get that. But given that the work had already been, you know - done... why not let it continue to exist? Were the hosting fees for a wiki that burdensome?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1098	Posted - 2016.04.12 01:59:54 - [16] - Quote Make it so that whenever someone tries to search the Evelopedia, they got a list of alternative wikis like E-Uni wiki, Goon Wiki, Agony Wiki or etc. That should alleviate the complaining. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 53985	Posted - 2016.04.12 02:44:51 - [17] - Quote Commander A9 wrote: Hey, guys. Without EVElopedia, what is the next best thing for players to build and update a wiki community based on EVE? And hell, what do the devs plan to do about all their in-game links stating "refer to EVElopedia for more information?" Hell, alot of training agents and new career agents had links to EVElopedia to teach new pilots the ins and outs. And the fake Pax Ammaria book simply states "This book has a bit of a history" linking directly to an EVElopedia article-an article that no longer exists. I'd say killing EVElopedia was a REALLY bad idea! Yup, definitely a bad idea. And to add insult to injury, they've conveniently overlooked and ignored all of the links and threads that go to Evelopedia. Anyway, for info only : EVELOPEDIA via The Wayback Machine DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit 354	Posted - 2016.04.12 14:27:41 - [18] - Quote Heres hoping they manage to integrate all the evelopedia stuff into the main eve website.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7457	Posted - 2016.04.12 16:57:55 - [19] - Quote Eve needs its own Thottbot. Everything reprocesses into crab meat Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Amber Solaire Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2016.04.12 21:09:51 - [20] - Quote Dunno, this might help: Alternative option
Meryl SinGarda Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 921	Posted - 2016.04.12 21:16:41 - [21] - Quote What even happened to EVElopdia? I take a break for like 10 months and I come back to all sorts of weird news GÖÑ Intergalactic Serial Killer GÖÑ
Akira Kata Goggles Inc. 6	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:24:05 - [22] - Quote Lacking an official, definitive source for game mechanics explanations is a major gap for something as complex as EVE. Sifting through devblog search results is an abysmally poor substitute.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 11799	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:25:59 - [23] - Quote Me. You come to me. Give me your question, and I will dispense wisdom Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Zeric Aurilen Infinite Point Violence of Action. 3	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:48:25 - [24] - Quote As a newer player, every time I google something I get directed to EVElopedia only to have it not available. Seems like it must've had some good information available. Not sure what happened, but if anyone has some other recommendations it would be nice to hear.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17702	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:49:04 - [25] - Quote Commander A9 wrote: Hey, guys. Without EVElopedia, what is the next best thing for players to build and update a wiki community based on EVE? And hell, what do the devs plan to do about all their in-game links stating "refer to EVElopedia for more information?" Hell, alot of training agents and new career agents had links to EVElopedia to teach new pilots the ins and outs. And the fake Pax Ammaria book simply states "This book has a bit of a history" linking directly to an EVElopedia article-an article that no longer exists. I'd say killing EVElopedia was a REALLY bad idea! goonfleet.wiki "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Tavin Aikisen Phoenix Naval Operations Phoenix Naval Systems 387	Posted - 2016.04.26 22:11:33 - [26] - Quote Such a ******* stupid idea. Colossal loss of lore related material as well as game play info... "Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home." -Cold Wind
Ashlar Maidstone MoonFyre StarBurst Pirateers 223	Posted - 2016.04.27 01:01:48 - [27] - Quote The best place I found so far was the wiki from Eve-uni. But yeah removing the wiki here was not such a good idea, even if it hadn't been updated a while.[:

CCP Darwin C C P C C P Alliance 2067	Posted - 2016.04.27 01:09:44 - [28] - Quote ISD Fractal wrote: As for the links in game, feel free to submit a report every time you see something that looks out of place. I'm sure references to the Evelopedia are all over the place and CCP could probably use a hand finding them. Please submit a bug report, not a support ticket. CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins

Circumstantial Evidence 304	Posted - 2016.04.27 01:30:10 - [29] - Quote CSM10 warned CCP of this negative player reaction to dis-continuing evelopedia in advance. And so... outsourcing. It looks like they are essentially re-creating the "game manual" via Zendesk: witness the number of new articles related to Citadels, linked in the patch notes.
Synlauna Celestus Industries 6	Posted - 2016.04.27 04:49:02 - [30] - Quote As mentioned before, just the fact that googling a subject related to Eve would result in a quick find was extremely helpful. I'm sure having Eve related content easily accessible didn't hurt getting Eve's name out there either.
Dani Gallar University of Caille Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2016.04.27 06:35:51 - [31] - Quote Well, there's still EVE-Survival and UniWiki to go to for info on most 'stuff'.
Alessienne Ellecon Solitude Rangers 39	Posted - 2016.04.27 11:50:40 - [32] - Quote I'm totally up for creating an evelopedia replacement, who's with me?
GFSM Pneumatic Knights 0	Posted - 2016.04.27 13:28:53 - [33] - Quote Definately. Without EVEopedia EVE fan-fic will turn out like that Splinter in the Minds Eye book where Luke and Leia give each other, um, love. It's important to have a canon otherwise the Klingons and Cylons and other sub-par villians like the United Nations take over.
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1169	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:48:48 - [34] - Quote CCP Darwin wrote: ISD Fractal wrote: As for the links in game, feel free to submit a report every time you see something that looks out of place. I'm sure references to the Evelopedia are all over the place and CCP could probably use a hand finding them. Please submit a bug report, not a support ticket. Edited to clarify. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Nick Bete The Scope Gallente Federation 433	Posted - 2016.04.27 19:00:40 - [35] - Quote Circumstantial Evidence wrote: CSM10 warned CCP of this negative player reaction to dis-continuing evelopedia in advance. And so... outsourcing. It looks like they are essentially re-creating the "game manual" via Zendesk: witness the number of new articles related to Citadels, linked in the patch notes. So, CCP ran this genius idea past the CSM and their advice was ignored, huh? I guess that tells you just how much CCP cares about player input in general and the CSM's in particular. Back to the topic at hand; fobbing off the responsibility of documenting Eve to third parties, no matter how well meaning those third parties may be, is a terrible idea. CCP has no control over the content of third party sites and the information they provide may be incomplete, outdated or just plain incorrect. There's also the fact that these sites can disappear at any time. As someone else stated there needs to be a definitive, authoritative, CCP-official spot for players to find Eve information. Counting on Eve Uni or Goons to provide that is irresponsible.
Sragir Discoverings Goonswarm Federation 10	Posted - 2016.04.27 22:28:04 - [36] - Quote Nick Bete wrote: Back to the topic at hand; fobbing off the responsibility of documenting Eve to third parties, no matter how well meaning those third parties may be, is a terrible idea. CCP has no control over the content of third party sites and the information they provide may be incomplete, outdated or just plain incorrect. There's also the fact that these sites can disappear at any time. As someone else stated there needs to be a definitive, authoritative, CCP-official spot for players to find Eve information. Counting on Eve Uni or Goons to provide that is irresponsible. Agreed. Give them nothing, but take from themGÇªeverything!!!!
Kharnakh Arx Draconis 60	Posted - 2016.04.27 22:36:11 - [37] - Quote Nick Bete wrote: There's also the fact that these sites can disappear at any time. Quoted for irony.
GFSM Pneumatic Knights 5	Posted - 2016.04.28 12:47:45 - [38] - Quote Without EVEopedia an average gamer journalist could easily assume this: EVE Online is set in 2016. The Amarr are representative of conservative Islam, the Caldari are a cross between the IMF and a Nike tattooed homeboy, the Gallente are somehow French and thus cheesy and rude, and the Minmatar were oppressed once and therfore dwelt on it so long they got stuck in a rut and rusted. However, that would be cynical. Compare this to the Star Wars universe: Star Wars is set in America, in 2016. Jar Jar Binks has refounded the Order of the Sith. Since there are only two, somehow there's over a thousand on the licensed copumter game version. The Jedi were wiped out, but somehow political correctness survived. Somehow "somehow" managed to be used in a highly accurate review four times. Above all. you can install as many TVs in a hangar as you want, but without content all space operas turn into the Wiggles in Space. (For readers, the Wiggles were a highly successful Australian rock band formerly called the Cockroaches. They invented Star Trek, just look at the outfits.)
Tesla Grass Akimamur Industries The Revenant Order 13	Posted - 2016.04.28 13:33:27 - [39] - Quote Sure I get pissed about some of CCP's changes to EVE from time to time, often after a bit of reflection I get where they are coming from and go, okay, that'll pass. More players will join, more content for us etc etc. The removal of this wiki is a ***** joke, If you do not want to update it, fine, still your loss, but to totally take it offline is actually really disgraceful. As a non PC nerd, trying to search through that PHAT database is almost impossible so I'm stuck googling ** that only takes me to wiki pages that you have taken down. How about you spend the time you've saved not updating the wiki to get google to stop linking me to pages that no longer exist. Frustrated to no end.
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1170	Posted - 2016.04.28 14:24:27 - [40] - Quote Quote: 3. Ranting is prohibited. A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. I removed a post for violating the above rule. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Teinyhr Ourumur 565	Posted - 2016.04.28 20:17:09 - [41] - Quote ISD Fractal wrote: The most comprehensive Eve wiki that I'm aware of is Eve University's wiki. Too bad it has no lore articles. For now the official stories for the game are as good as dead as a very large portion of fluff was hosted on the official wiki. CCP did promise to build a new site to house that, but frankly I'm expecting to materialize around the same time as player made stargates (so 2022 maybe?).
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5137	Posted - 2016.04.28 22:03:02 - [42] - Quote Alessienne Ellecon wrote: I'm totally up for creating an evelopedia replacement, who's with me? That is CCP's job. It is THEIR software and it is THEIR duty to document it. And not just the new shiny, but also all the essential mechanics, from how powergrid works when fitting to how to set up a corporation role. If someone wanted to read everything possible to know about EVE's mechanics, that should be possible with CCP documentation alone. Because if CCP doesn't knows what happens when you press a button under certain circunstances, who the f*** knows? Who's duty is to know it, even if it was implemented 10 years ago by a guy who has since left software developing and now grows artichokes somewhere in Germany?
Nick Bete The Scope Gallente Federation 437	Posted - 2016.04.28 22:36:54 - [43] - Quote It's all about priorities and I guess CCP's are elsewhere. Why documentation of their extremely deep and complex flagship product isn't a priority is beyond me, though.
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4476	Posted - 2016.04.28 23:56:30 - [44] - Quote We're going to rely on Google and 3rd party sites. And hope we don't get trolled or lulzed. Or just advised by somebody who got it wrong. Or somebody who posted something last month, and it's already outdated. All IT guys know that documentation is drudge work, time-consuming, and highly unpleasant.... Somebody/anybody else do it, please!
Buzz Orti State War Academy Caldari State 309	Posted - 2016.04.29 00:35:12 - [45] - Quote Many forums reference posts from CCP or ISD or staff links directly to the old EVE wiki with the new updated link... So a new player gets in that forum subforum, see the staff pinned thread and click the link and voila! ...doesn't work. Other people were not supposed to link to that wiki to avoid overloading the hardware system. Who knows wadappen when the DDoS occured.? Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Pix Severus Empty You 4199	Posted - 2016.04.29 00:59:11 - [46] - Quote Some of you talk about third party sites like they can't be trusted to provide accurate information. Lets not forget that the official wiki itself was outdated, and therefore incorrect, on many of it's articles. How many of you here use zkillboard, EVE Survival, or any of Chribba's many sites? Do you have issues trusting the information there? I think the playerbase can create a better wiki than the old one, we just need someone to step up to the plate. -ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
Nick Bete The Scope Gallente Federation 438	Posted - 2016.04.29 05:15:32 - [47] - Quote You're missing the point. It's not that there aren't many well-known, long-standing and accurate sites out there. Obviously they exist but, the issue is they're NOT OFFICIAL. CCP has absolutely no control over what's posted on them and therefore the information could be incomplete or deliberately misleading. With a game as complex as Eve there needs to be vetted CCP-created documentation. Relying on third parties like Chribba or Eve Uni to provide docs for Eve is akin to Porsche deciding one day to stop including an owners' manual with each vehicle sold and expecting people to Google how to change the oil or find the right tire pressures. It's silly, inefficient and irresponsible. It's all well and good that third parties are providing documentation that CCP should be but let's face it, anyone can put up a web page or wiki and fill it with information. Maybe that info is valid and maybe it's not. How will players, especially new ones with no clue about who to trust, tell the difference? P.S. This doesn't even begin to deal with how much PVE, lore and backstory-related information is potentially lost.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 11572	Posted - 2016.04.29 06:00:11 - [48] - Quote Player-written documentation has always been superior to what CCP provides. Misleading, incorrect or incomplete information was far more prevalent in EVElopedia than on any decent player-run wiki, and the only people "vetting" the information on that wiki were ISD. We already have eve-wiki.net and the EVE Uni wiki. Why create another one? Twitter: @EVEAndski "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar
Alessienne Ellecon Solitude Rangers 41	Posted - 2016.04.29 06:11:20 - [49] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Alessienne Ellecon wrote: I'm totally up for creating an evelopedia replacement, who's with me? That is CCP's job. It is THEIR software and it is THEIR duty to document it. And not just the new shiny, but also all the essential mechanics, from how powergrid works when fitting to how to set up a corporation role. Well, they're obviously not doing it, are they? Instead of sitting on this forum and whining like a little b****, I'm proposing we make a comprehensive EVE wiki to end all EVE wikis and put the Evelopedia to shame. Also, screw EVE Uni.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 11572	Posted - 2016.04.29 06:13:15 - [50] - Quote It's almost like you can build upon an existing wiki instead of starting one from scratch! Twitter: @EVEAndski "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar
GFSM Pneumatic Knights 9	Posted - 2016.04.29 12:49:54 - [51] - Quote I'd think (therefore I don't know) there's two issues at stake. 1: Technical info. Most play EVE as a game, and one that can "be won". IMO there's plenty of info out there for this. 2: Lore/RPG. This is an "aesthetic hook" for many, the "soul" of the game. I honestly LOVE CCP for what they've made, but taking down EVEopedia and then uploading things like "Wrecking Machine" is reckless. We all love Permaband, but honestly.... If CCP did a lore based wiki (and lore only) and let all the "pew pew crew" make third party sites it would cost about a fifth of Permaband's wardrobe and about 03.75% of the cost of the 07 Show. That MIGHT be a nice compromise.
Akira Kata Goggles Inc. 11	Posted - 2016.05.02 18:02:41 - [52] - Quote ISD Fractal wrote: The most comprehensive Eve wiki that I'm aware of is Eve University's wiki. As for the links in game, feel free to submit a bug report every time you see something that looks out of place. I'm sure references to the Evelopedia are all over the place and CCP could probably use a hand finding them. Edited to more explicitly state that you should submit a bug report. ++ irony as I was once told by CCP that they didn't accept game data from 3rd parties (UNIWiki) when I submitted a petition re an escalation trigger that seemed bugged.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 54322	Posted - 2016.05.03 01:21:04 - [53] - Quote Andski wrote: Player-written documentation has always been superior to what CCP provides. Misleading, incorrect or incomplete information was far more prevalent in EVElopedia than on any decent player-run wiki, and the only people "vetting" the information on that wiki were ISD. We already have eve-wiki.net and the EVE Uni wiki. Why create another one? Most of the info in the 3rd party wiki's that you mentioned was copy/paste from Evelopedia. Also most of the PvE info in Evelopedia was regularly updated by the playerbase. CCP ignored updating their 'Official' pages which were locked and those soon became as you say - misleading, incorrect or incomplete. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Buzz Orti State War Academy Caldari State 317	Posted - 2016.05.03 01:45:01 - [54] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Andski wrote: Player-written documentation has always been superior to what CCP provides. Misleading, incorrect or incomplete information was far more prevalent in EVElopedia than on any decent player-run wiki, and the only people "vetting" the information on that wiki were ISD. We already have eve-wiki.net and the EVE Uni wiki. Why create another one? Most of the info in the 3rd party wiki's that you mentioned was copy/paste from Evelopedia. Also most of the PvE info in Evelopedia was regularly updated by the playerbase. CCP ignored updating their 'Official' pages which were locked and those soon became as you say - misleading, incorrect or incomplete. DMC One could update the eve wikipedia, including players. Some reasons why CCP would rather outsource the info is that, they keep their own records of it more secret to public now. CCP (they) also get some benefit in having other entities keep info on the new game system. There is less risk or less vulnerability of being coined as misleading, incorrect or incomplete, even if it does happen. That is credit that they can put to their own use , even if someone tried to discredit them for it. The CCP info on the patches and releases as well as discussion for new feature are published in their own places. There is the EVE News, link or http://updates.eveonline.com/ https://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-eve-online-citadel https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ ... Perfect examples (3) of how not to link to the EVE Online links and minimize server overload risks. Do not do this at home. Do not try this at home. There is no try. Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Kenneth Endashi Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 98	Posted - 2016.05.03 03:39:39 - [55] - Quote Hello, I run several websites professionally, and I'd like to make an offer. If it's a hosting problem, then I will host the site on my own dime and operate it for free, for the community. I give permission to the ISDs to give my contact information to developers for this purpose. I don't want intellectual property rights or anything. I just want EVElopedia back and I'd be happy to run it for the community's benefit (and CCP's). I hope that's all it is, and we can get the site back ourselves. I don't see why CCP would decline unless they're worried about us ******* it up. Thanks, and good luck.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 43	Posted - 2016.05.03 06:46:19 - [56] - Quote Kenneth Endashi wrote: Hello, I run several websites professionally, and I'd like to make an offer. If it's a hosting problem, then I will host the site on my own dime and operate it for free, for the community. That's a generous offer but that's not the problem. It's who's job it is to make a manual. Search for the new Carriers: Uni-Wiki doesn't know them. A s a new player I was searching how to upgrade my clone because a lot of websites stated, that this was really important........ I grinded faction standing to install my first jump clone........ Eve is lore wise at the moment par with Doom and Serious Sam. Something that is shaming for such an old and complex game. CCP need to have all the infos to make a actual manual. Look at the announcements for the citadel patch. To condense all these Infos into a manual would take less then 1 day work for someone skilled (RL). That's nothing. They could start from the old evelopedia and put it into a new design and keep it actual. The main work was done a long time ago and keepinmg it up to date isn't really so much work.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5159	Posted - 2016.05.03 07:01:28 - [57] - Quote Yesterday I read this on the comments to a blog by Neville Smit: Quote: (...) So I'd like to see a more obvious tutorial and better documentation from CCP. What company doesn't have documentation readily available for new players, explaining the UI you're presented with? (...) CCP, obviously.
Buzz Orti State War Academy Caldari State 322	Posted - 2016.05.03 15:48:47 - [58] - Quote Kenneth Endashi wrote: Hello, I run several websites professionally, and I'd like to make an offer. If it's a hosting problem, then I will host the site on my own dime and operate it for free, for the community. I give permission to the ISDs to give my contact information to developers for this purpose. I don't want intellectual property rights or anything. I just want EVElopedia back and I'd be happy to run it for the community's benefit (and CCP's). I hope that's all it is, and we can get the site back ourselves. I don't see why CCP would decline unless they're worried about us ******* it up. Thanks, and good luck. There is the EVElopedia archive relic which, although I never managed to make it work yet, managed to download after around 5 tries or more. I forgot the file format, but it may be an XML file or some other database type of file format. It certainly is not an Excel file. (let me check, brb) Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Alessienne Ellecon Solitude Rangers 41	Posted - 2016.05.11 17:01:07 - [59] - Quote Encyclopaedia Nova Edenica is now online at neweden.wikia.com. Be aware that I will be running a tight ship, so if you want to contribute, it better be good. So far, I've sorted out the basic design and colour scheme, and created a streamlined navigation structure which is easily accessible from a single portal menu; one click and you've got the pertinent categories at your fingertips.

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