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Posted - 2003.12.15 01:17:00 -
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With mwds being nerfed, who here is still planning on using them in bship combat?
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:20:00 -
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Better question: Who is going to do battleship combat at all after the patch? I'll be jumping back in the old Thorax or Maller, for combat of any kind. Hell, maybe even a frigate.
CCP, don't nerf the MWDs and ABs. Leave them the same, but with a different class for each class of ship. The speed boost nerf is too much on MWDs and now my indy only goes 266 m/s with afterburners instead of 720 m/s.
If your only concern is the people that use multiple MWDs, then just make it so only 1 can be fitted *or* so that they are seriously penalized if two are fitted, like damage mods are.
Now, I know that plently of people will still be flying around doing PvP and PvNPC in their battleships, but a LOT of people WILL stop doing this now. I sure don't think it's worth the risk.
Yeah, I know that the solution to flying around safely in 0.0 space is to go in a group, but guess what...there are a LOT of people out there who are independent players who never have anyone else to group with. These players are screwed.
Only place I'm taking my battleship now is the 0.5 asteroid fields near by. It'll be interesting to see what happens to mining, especially out in 0.0 space, after the patch.
I'm just irritated, ATM, that's all. We'll see how things really work out once the patch has arrived. Maybe it won't be as bad as I think...but I've tried the new stuff on Chaos and it doesn't look good. 
See y'all tomorrow.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:52:00 -
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Better question: Who is going to do battleship combat at all after the patch? I'll be jumping back in the old Thorax or Maller, for combat of any kind. Hell, maybe even a frigate.
Saved me saying it. I'm feeling things out in Cruisers for at least a week. But I've got platinum on the ole Scorp so I'll have to get it out at some point before it expires.
As to the new MWDs, that stats, etc keep changing. I'll be mucking about with my mates a lot before I take any loadout into combat. Especially a shield and cap nerf...
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Chith
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Posted - 2003.12.15 16:16:00 -
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Being able to move at 8x your normal speed is hugely powerful. I have no idea why this should be considered Standard Fare. The new changes create a lot of complexity to what many people percieved as being a very simple environment. Like the guy above mentioned, jump into your cruiser if you like to solo. Battleships very likely need support to pull off the same things they've pulled off in the past.
Besides, in my experience, most people in battleships could hardly use them fully anyway, heh.
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Alan Bell
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Posted - 2003.12.15 16:32:00 -
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i think ravens will take over, at least in teh BS combat PvP, u can use FoF cruise to take care of frigs, and put on a trackin computer, with normal cruise, u cna get cruisers as well
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.15 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Khouri on 15/12/2003 16:33:10
Firstly it was 10 times and now they halved this to 5 times - for the lightest BS. It borders to the 3-4 times as much speed for cladari. And cap usage got so heavy that you will have no cap left after 30-40 km travelled.
Combat MWD setups had it's uses, especially for shortrange weaponery. The basic question is more like:
With mwds being nerfed, who here is still planning on using shortrange weapons in bship combat?
I certainly not. I'm not suicidal.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.12.15 22:51:00 -
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I will admit, half my corp will be jumping into cruisers when the patch goes live, including myself.
CCP have said the "be ready for a bumpy ride", u have been warned.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:12:00 -
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A possible result might be that the battleships will start equipping weapons for various distances.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.12.17 14:21:00 -
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An Apocalypse rigged for cap recharge can still use a MWD without too much trouble and get decent speed out of it (just not for minutes at a time). Of course, an Apoc doesn't really NEED a MWD in combat except to stay away from short-range ships, and THEY won't be very common now, so I'd say farming Apocs will keep them and PVP setups will lose them...
On the other hand, 25% shield hit is much better than the old 50%.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.17 16:13:00 -
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It wasn't the -50% shield which were hurting, though, but the -25% cap. Which are still here.
Main defence of SR were their speed, not their shields. Lesser shield penalities won't help them without speed.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2003.12.17 16:38:00 -
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On the most part i mostly like the changes, maybe it was too much of a change but mwd sucked how there were, grant a stacked them myself and enjoyed free travek with no fear of dying which is why they needed nerfin..
But i know from camping gates myself how much of a pain to have your blockade run by someone going 2000 m/s or using a insta jump bm, PvP sucked before as there was no way of forcing someone to fight with out forcing them or them making a stupid mistake. PvP should be much better now and if u wanna travel around 0.0 i an indy u better have some protection. People have had it way to easy, if u dont wanna take risks stay in 0.5+ space
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I'm NOT a pirate 
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RuHa
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Posted - 2003.12.17 20:29:00 -
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Great!
I quit MWD a long time ago because of the penalties...ok!
There's always the old AB's. Guess what...I'll have to quit them also because i have no power to fit a simple 10MN AB I...unless i downgrade something else in the Thorax (wich has not an amazing fit to start with) and maybe start to race ppl for isk. Yes..i have engen lvl5 and a +10% power core unit.
So: I liked most of the changes in this patch (some i liked ALOT)...except this one.
Downgrade time again  
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