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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:40:00 -
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and the tides have officially turned.......
GL on ure petitions...if u get them there will be hell to pay
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Demonic Embrace
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:41:00 -
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mantrained
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 16/02/2007 07:40:48
Why you worried about a petition?
Think something was fishy about J1V do we?
How about the fact that of 400 friendly in system before the crash 15 were able to log in after?
Welldone you achieved so much.
/has been trying to log into J1V since 4.24am still unsucessful as of 7.41am.
Dark-Rising
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:44:00 -
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Yea, this isnt GD worthy. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
How about the fact that of 400 friendly in system before the crash 15 were able to log in after?
OMG The allies now have Developers!!!!1111oneone1one11
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Demonic Embrace
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:45:00 -
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Lag worked BOTH WAYS!
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:46:00 -
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The most I would realistically expect out of their petitioning (if it is successful) is a reimbursement of the lost assets - which is to say, the POS + POS components & fuel + titan BPO + titan construction parts would appear in somebody's hangar somewhere. I seriously doubt they have the ability to make the POS magically reappear at the exact same place with the titan construction status exactly as far along as it was previously.
Either way, while it's a pretty big achievement, it also sounds like a fairly hollow one by the forum threads. Epic node deaths 4tl.  ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |

Jake Noble
Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:52:00 -
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well really the way you guys where coming in which was in WAVES of 100 - 250 or so you would not have broken into jv1 - lets not argue about it im sure you say you would have and we will continue to say you wouldnt have.
Those node crashes where ridiculous and I do expect reimbursement for ALL losses friendly and hostile as that system was a complete joke... 150 people unable to log in, our capital pilots unable to log in... Im not putting the tin foil hats on but something was ****** on that node.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Embrace Lag worked BOTH WAYS!
LOL, when you can't blame bob lag suddenly works BOTH WAYS?! god, you people... hillarious. |

Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:56:00 -
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tick tock tick tock 
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Christopher Scott
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Noble well really the way you guys where coming in which was in WAVES of 100 - 250 or so you would not have broken into jv1 - lets not argue about it im sure you say you would have and we will continue to say you wouldnt have.
Those node crashes where ridiculous and I do expect reimbursement for ALL losses friendly and hostile as that system was a complete joke... 150 people unable to log in, our capital pilots unable to log in... Im not putting the tin foil hats on but something was ****** on that node.
So, when LV lose to a node death, they are allowed to get their stuff back? What about the dozens of other alliances that lost billions of ISK in ships and starbases due to unfavorable node deaths? I guess not.
Being friends with BoD must have some really nice perks. Does 'Sunshine' treat you really well?
Originally by: DB Preacher I may be a muppet on these forums and wind peeps up massively but what is going on here is waaaaay over the edge of reasonable morality.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.16 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 16/02/2007 07:57:46 To those of you crying and accussing of whatever side having devs that are giving each other advantages and doing so and so to the node...STFU, you don't even KNOW that for a fact and in all probability it's a bunch of fat stinky lies.
Who the hell do you think you are? omni knowledgable beings with the right to accuse CCP left and right for all being dishonest, corrupt and out to abuse the system. Grow the FECK up.
CCP are trying their hardest right now just to make the node WORK for you, and all you have to say for it, is calling them liars, cheaters, unacceptable, incompetent, idiots, abusers and a whole range of other unpleasent things. How would you like to be on the recieving end of that hm? you wouldn't like that you say? Oh..well THERES a surprise.
And don't give me the crap about "CCP said that their servers could handle it, but obviously it can't so they deserve what they get from us", the fact is, the node was overloaded and a futuristic super node can NOT, and I repeat, CAN NOT be conjured out of thin air.
And yelling at them, and attacking them personally and putting them down while they're doing their best, is NOT and I repeat, NOT going to change that fact. I'm not personally on anyone's side in this whole thing, because the way I see it, you're all equal immature unreasonable dumbarses about this. (those of you yelling like this that is..Respect to those of you on both sides that are being cool headed/neutral/constructive about this, we need more like you)
If you have to complain about it, or suggest something or whatever it is you do, thats FINE..but try an act like adults when doing it, and ATLEAST have the common decency to be CONSTRUCTIVE about it. Don't you think they have enough difficulties the way it is?? Unlike any other MMO I know out there, CCP are the most hardworking, dedicated and community communicating company there are in this buisness.
It's frustrating as hell I'm sure..I can't even begin to imagine your pain, as I'm not part of the whole event down there, but being *****S towards CCP won't solve ANYTHING, period. - New sig in the workings -Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right - ....*steals a cookie from the ISD cookie yarr* >_> |

Dr Slaughter
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Embrace Lag worked BOTH WAYS!
Which is why when you all jumped in we WTFBBQed several hundred of you in our bubbles...
oh.. hang on.. that didn't happen did it? Would that be because while we tried to load.. hundreds of you jumped in and blew up the bubbles?
Anyway I should know better than to try to post anything intelligent on here. So I will give in and join the deluded. All hail the mighty mantrain. Where do I sign up... not. *pinch of salt required* |

Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:03:00 -
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The way EVE is shaping up nowadays, this sort of thing will become more prevalent. Obviously, untill we get a game that can handle a 1000 man fight in ANY random system at ANY given time, huge Alliance fights just wont occur reasonably. Are we going to get that? I really dont know, but I have a horrible suspicion it will take either masses of upgrades or a totally new implementation of how we transition, or some other way. And new people keep rolling in every day... Sucks, but there it is. |

Otto Torivus
Species 5618
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 16/02/2007 07:40:48
Why you worried about a petition?
Think something was fishy about J1V do we?
How about the fact that of 400 friendly in system before the crash 15 were able to log in after?
Welldone you achieved so much.
/has been trying to log into J1V since 4.24am still unsucessful as of 7.41am.
Welcome to the world of ASCN, you deserve every thing you get. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Le Pecarosh
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 16/02/2007 07:40:48
Why you worried about a petition?
Think something was fishy about J1V do we?
How about the fact that of 400 friendly in system before the crash 15 were able to log in after?
Welldone you achieved so much.
/has been trying to log into J1V since 4.24am still unsucessful as of 7.41am.
I see more than 15 killed ships on Goon's killboard alone.
Are they haxoring again? 
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Tobizuru
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo The way EVE is shaping up nowadays, this sort of thing will become more prevalent. Obviously, untill we get a game that can handle a 1000 man fight in ANY random system at ANY given time, huge Alliance fights just wont occur reasonably. Are we going to get that? I really dont know, but I have a horrible suspicion it will take either masses of upgrades or a totally new implementation of how we transition, or some other way. And new people keep rolling in every day... Sucks, but there it is.
OMG Hardware Upgrade Dev Blog!  --------------------
If I only had a Face... :'( Sig Edit: Wait wtf is this?! |

Demonic Embrace
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter
Originally by: Demonic Embrace Lag worked BOTH WAYS!
Which is why when you all jumped in we WTFBBQed several hundred of you in our bubbles...
oh.. hang on.. that didn't happen did it? Would that be because while we tried to load.. hundreds of you jumped in and blew up the bubbles?
Anyway I should know better than to try to post anything intelligent on here. So I will give in and join the deluded. All hail the mighty mantrain. Where do I sign up... not.
LOL. This is funny coming from an ISS who just a month or two ago did...what? Can anyone remember?
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:13:00 -
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I have to say if things are not replaced then this is BS... 600 vs 400 would have been an interesting fight... but since that didn't happen I think everything needs to be put back the way it was and go for round two.
I have little love for LV myself but I don't feel that this is right. Everyone should have the right to defend their space and on the other hand people have the right to fight. Node crashes ruin the game for everyone. LV shouldn't loose their titan due to a node crash... The bad thing is... I don't see either side backing down. Even if things are replaced goons will still bring everyone and lv will be there with everyone they can as well... and guess what... more node crashes.
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Demonic Embrace
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aelena Thraant I have to say if things are not replaced then this is BS... 600 vs 400 would have been an interesting fight... but since that didn't happen I think everything needs to be put back the way it was and go for round two.
I have little love for LV myself but I don't feel that this is right. Everyone should have the right to defend their space and on the other hand people have the right to fight. Node crashes ruin the game for everyone. LV shouldn't loose their titan due to a node crash... The bad thing is... I don't see either side backing down. Even if things are replaced goons will still bring everyone and lv will be there with everyone they can as well... and guess what... more node crashes.
Where are you getting your numbers? THERE WAS NEAR IF NOT OVER 1,000+ PEOPLE ATTACKING JV1V. -LV- stood ZERO chance.
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Dr Slaughter
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 16/02/2007 08:19:52
Originally by: Demonic Embrace
Originally by: Dr Slaughter
Originally by: Demonic Embrace Lag worked BOTH WAYS!
Which is why when you all jumped in we WTFBBQed several hundred of you in our bubbles...
oh.. hang on.. that didn't happen did it? Would that be because while we tried to load.. hundreds of you jumped in and blew up the bubbles?
Anyway I should know better than to try to post anything intelligent on here. So I will give in and join the deluded. All hail the mighty mantrain. Where do I sign up... not.
LOL. This is funny coming from an ISS who just a month or two ago did...what? Can anyone remember?
So you're saying because this might have happened to you previously it's now working both ways. Oh ok. My mistake then. Why do you have to be so obtuse? You had me thinking you thought that the invasion of JV1V was fair and that the lag/node crashes had an equal effect on both sides. Silly me. *pinch of salt required* |

Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Embrace
Originally by: Aelena Thraant I have to say if things are not replaced then this is BS... 600 vs 400 would have been an interesting fight... but since that didn't happen I think everything needs to be put back the way it was and go for round two.
I have little love for LV myself but I don't feel that this is right. Everyone should have the right to defend their space and on the other hand people have the right to fight. Node crashes ruin the game for everyone. LV shouldn't loose their titan due to a node crash... The bad thing is... I don't see either side backing down. Even if things are replaced goons will still bring everyone and lv will be there with everyone they can as well... and guess what... more node crashes.
Where are you getting your numbers? THERE WAS NEAR IF NOT OVER 1,000+ PEOPLE ATTACKING JV1V. -LV- stood ZERO chance.
He's right
It was a massive fleet
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aelena Thraant I have to say if things are not replaced then this is BS... 600 vs 400 would have been an interesting fight... but since that didn't happen I think everything needs to be put back the way it was and go for round two.
I have little love for LV myself but I don't feel that this is right. Everyone should have the right to defend their space and on the other hand people have the right to fight. Node crashes ruin the game for everyone. LV shouldn't loose their titan due to a node crash... The bad thing is... I don't see either side backing down. Even if things are replaced goons will still bring everyone and lv will be there with everyone they can as well... and guess what... more node crashes.
Yes, you. . .the BOB pet alliance has NO love for LV.
Everyone had to deal with the lag. Everyone had to sit there and look at the black screen. When coalition members got in, guess what? They saw close to even numbers of them and LV folks in the system. Problem was the coalition members had to spend 2 hours popping bubbles at the M-R gate. So, of course, LV contributed exactly 0 to the lag problem.
All apologies to LV. Next time, let's let ALL the LV folks log on first and then let's let them decide exactly how many people they want to fight at one time. Will they promise not to cry in their cups if we do it that way? Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!! |

Dr Slaughter
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow It was a massive fleet
OMG photographic proof that there were.. wow.. 450 ships in local. How many fighters did they have to help them kill he 495 LV/friends in JV1V? Oh wait... they didn't need fighters as they [b]evidently[b] had a logoffski close range fleet already in place (but logged off) in JV1V.. oh but they didn't need that either. Perhaps goon should have just turned up in a f**king shuttle fleet?
Whatever... we will never know for sure how this would have played out until this is re-done somewhere that the node doesn't crash.
Everything else is speculation and spin. *pinch of salt required* |

Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Liquid Vision
Originally by: Aelena Thraant I have to say if things are not replaced then this is BS... 600 vs 400 would have been an interesting fight... but since that didn't happen I think everything needs to be put back the way it was and go for round two.
I have little love for LV myself but I don't feel that this is right. Everyone should have the right to defend their space and on the other hand people have the right to fight. Node crashes ruin the game for everyone. LV shouldn't loose their titan due to a node crash... The bad thing is... I don't see either side backing down. Even if things are replaced goons will still bring everyone and lv will be there with everyone they can as well... and guess what... more node crashes.
Yes, you. . .the BOB pet alliance has NO love for LV.
Everyone had to deal with the lag. Everyone had to sit there and look at the black screen. When coalition members got in, guess what? They saw close to even numbers of them and LV folks in the system. Problem was the coalition members had to spend 2 hours popping bubbles at the M-R gate. So, of course, LV contributed exactly 0 to the lag problem.
All apologies to LV. Next time, let's let ALL the LV folks log on first and then let's let them decide exactly how many people they want to fight at one time. Will they promise not to cry in their cups if we do it that way?
I can say that my corp doesn't have much love for LV. One day after leaving KOS (When they were still friendly) they were ganking members in low sec. Even guys I flew with the day before. So yah not much love here. Though I have even less love for RA/Goons so if I had to pick one to win I would pick LV.
From previous screen shots... LV was setup very nicely and I really doubt that the huge number of you would have gotten in. Would they have lost... Well we will never know.
Lets all hope someday soon we can have battles like this.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 16/02/2007 07:40:48
Why you worried about a petition?
Think something was fishy about J1V do we?
How about the fact that of 400 friendly in system before the crash 15 were able to log in after?
Welldone you achieved so much.
/has been trying to log into J1V since 4.24am still unsucessful as of 7.41am.
TCF/IAC had the same thing happen when LV/BoB forces jumped into M-R. You win one... you loose one. By the time we had ~20 IAC in loaded, BoB had 180 fully operational ships including titan and 2 motherships on the 9-9 gate.
You win some you loose some. Petition away, won't help you a bit. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Zeoliter
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:49:00 -
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The BPO was not lost. Don't believe that hype.
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LV spy
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Posted - 2007.02.16 08:50:00 -
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Got some info's from inside LV , seems no titan wasn't in manufacture in that POS , was only a diversion , like someone of u know the other 2 titans was build in other place , seems the next titan will exit from production soon but wasn't in JV1 , like i hear the titan will be build somewhere in nord , the info is not 100% accurate , maybe i m wrong , but a titan can be easy build in a ystem with no sov , the corp who instal the pos and start build it just need to leave the alliance and the system will lose sov so u can't know where is the POS who have capital arrays , only if u check every single solar system with no sov for POS's
Anyway manny ppl say GF and something like that , but wasn't any fight there , only lag and screen load , last big fight i remember was in u-q 3 years ago , from than all fights was only lag .
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LV spy
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Posted - 2007.02.16 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: LV spy on 16/02/2007 09:07:52
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: LV spy Got some info's from inside LV , seems no titan wasn't in manufacture in that POS , was only a diversion , like someone of u know the other 2 titans was build in other place , seems the next titan will exit from production soon but wasn't in JV1 , like i hear the titan will be build somewhere in nord , the info is not 100% accurate , maybe i m wrong , but a titan can be easy build in a ystem with no sov , the corp who instal the pos and start build it just need to leave the alliance and the system will lose sov so u can't know where is the POS who have capital arrays , only if u check every single solar system with no sov for POS's
Anyway manny ppl say GF and something like that , but wasn't any fight there , only lag and screen load , last big fight i remember was in u-q 3 years ago , from than all fights was only lag .
Except that producing a titan like that is an exploit.
yah maybe is true can be an exploit , but let's say alliance A formed by corp : x,y,z , corp z drop POS in system S and start building titan , after 1 week because of some politacal issues corp z is expeled from alliance , but the titan continue to be build , how can be this an exploit ??
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Canard Duchene
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Posted - 2007.02.16 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Canard Duchene on 16/02/2007 09:13:04
Originally by: Ski69
Originally by: Demonic Embrace Where are you getting your numbers? THERE WAS NEAR IF NOT OVER 1,000+ PEOPLE ATTACKING JV1V. -LV- stood ZERO chance.
You do know there was a fight before the node crash, 200 RA/Goon vs 150 LV/Allies and it was 96 kills 2 losses, 100 man fleet would have had the same fate. 20 large bubbles makes you unable to warp out for about 100km where the LV/Allies Sniper fleet had that ability plus the help of hundreds of fighters.
and then the blob did its thing and the node crashed..
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