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Dragy
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:01:00 -
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Was just willing to sell my phoenix. Got first convo :
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[14:59:16] Dragy > yo [14:59:21] Unabridged > how much? [14:59:21] Dragy > 2,1bil [14:59:29] Unabridged > hmmm [14:59:34] Unabridged > where is it? [14:59:40] Dragy > yiratal [15:00:02] Unabridged > does it come with anything? [15:00:05] Dragy > nope [15:00:24] Unabridged > well could your private auction it my corp? [15:00:34] Dragy > item exchange [15:00:38] Dragy > only [15:00:41] Dragy > or direct trade [15:00:44] Unabridged > scammer
I just lolled. Told me friends about it, one was actually in jita seeing a 1 month old character willing to buy a dread and a carrier. It was the same person. Then nobelly he was willing to share his thoughts with others to save innocent from being scammed he posted my logs With Unabridged ...
Quote: Qwaar'Jet > DO NOT EVER DO PRIVATE AUCTIONS!!!! NEVER!!! Lady Galadriel > Qwarr f*ck of and shut the f*ck up Qwaar'Jet > Lady no abusive langauage Qwaar'Jet > petition time Lady Galadriel > Log this.. Shut the f*ck up Qwaar'Jet > Lady are you unabridged alt? Lady Galadriel > No you muppet Qwaar'Jet > cos you sound angry cos i'm putting people off from buying stuff from him Lady Galadriel > Private auctions are a vaild and secure method of trade Lady Galadriel > stop founting off useless crap Qwaar'Jet > stop being abusive Lady Galadriel > I said shut the f*ck up Qwarr
I love the new contract system 
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:16:00 -
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If you had fallen for it Dragy, I would have laughed so hard. But its good to see you're on your toes  ---
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Lady Kinla
Dark Empire Fleet
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:17:00 -
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Aww I wub contwacts too! You know what's disturbing about that though? There are at least 5,000 people who play eve that would have fallen for that.   ---------------------------
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Dragy
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:27:00 -
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After that incident Lofty ... i don't trust anyone besides few friends. Even if someone is in trusted corp, i won't trust him, neva. I wanted to show how people are stupip ... and yet making billions by finding more stupid than them 
And No, i was not scammed 
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Quutar
Caldari Auraxian Irregulars
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:42:00 -
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what i love is that a private item exchange costs 10k isk... no matter what the items or isk value being exchanged...
I had someone want me to private auction a set of ravens to him with the buyout for the full value and the first bid set low "for tax and fee reasons". Obvious scam. When i told him that I would do a private item exchange, since it is a flat fee, not dependent on the amount, he called me a scammer and closed the chat window...
(I use private item exchanges all the time with my research business, and it is always a flat 10k isk... no matter how long I set it for, no matter what the exchanged items or isk is worth)
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Hobbledehoy
Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Kinla Aww I wub contwacts too! You know what's disturbing about that though? There are at least 5,000 people who play eve that would have fallen for that.  
I think i'm one of those 5000
Sorry but i've only used the new contract system once so far. Could you please explain how that's a scam? As long as you don't put the first bid low "for tax reasons" then either you get your money's worth or you get the items back. Are you guys saying that it's a scam just because he might sucker you out of the contract cost? It seems so minimal and he doesn't gain from it so i don't understand where the incentive is there...
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vile56
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hobbledehoy
Originally by: Lady Kinla Aww I wub contwacts too! You know what's disturbing about that though? There are at least 5,000 people who play eve that would have fallen for that.  
I think i'm one of those 5000
Sorry but i've only used the new contract system once so far. Could you please explain how that's a scam? As long as you don't put the first bid low "for tax reasons" then either you get your money's worth or you get the items back. Are you guys saying that it's a scam just because he might sucker you out of the contract cost? It seems so minimal and he doesn't gain from it so i don't understand where the incentive is there...
i think i can help,
someone wants to buy a cnr,
he says put the private contract to my corp with low starting bid of 500isk and buyout of 1,3 bil i will claim buyout and we dont have to pay alot of taxes. then they dont do buyout and get cnr for 500 isk
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Unabridged
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Posted - 2007.02.17 01:44:00 -
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I'm so famous, my second post     
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Dimagus
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.02.17 01:50:00 -
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The scam works on two principles: 1) They get you to put up a new contract with a lesser minimum bid price, 2) If you put up a contract to a private person/corporation, ONLY those people can bid on it, not even the seller can bid/buyout his own contract.
- Never ever set a contract for a price lower than what you want for it. - Try to avoid private contracts in every situation where you don't know/can't trust the buyer.
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Gileas
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.17 06:02:00 -
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IIRC, another negative element and key to the private auction scam is that you (the seller) cannot set a reserve price.
Like the above guys said, always use item exchange. Any buyer that encourages you to set a low minimum bid "for tax reasons" is full of **** - HE doesn't have to pay the tax. ;)
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Dragy
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:20:00 -
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[22:40:13] Dragy > Greetings [22:40:19] Lancesis Trens > hello [22:40:20] Dragy > i assume that you're interested in phoenix [22:40:23] Dragy > is that right ? [22:40:27] Lancesis Trens > exacly [22:40:33] Lancesis Trens > how much is it ? [22:40:36] Dragy > It's located in yiratal system [22:40:56] Dragy > 2,1bil [22:40:59] Lancesis Trens > /emote looks on map [22:41:15] Lancesis Trens > can you make that 1.9? [22:41:32] Dragy > 2bil and it's yours, i really can't go cheaper [22:41:33] Dragy > but [22:41:53] Dragy > if you bought my dread i can give you a name of a very cheaper capital module producer [22:42:10] Lancesis Trens > just a name? do have any modules ? [22:42:24] Lancesis Trens > for sale of cource along with the ship [22:42:58] Dragy > Aye, he'll make you such a deal that you won't feel 100mil lesser in wallete, cause his prices are really cheap [22:43:08] Dragy > its a lone dread [22:43:13] Dragy > So, are you interested ? [22:43:34] Lancesis Trens > aha... whell 1.9 or 2 bil almost the same at that sum of isk..yeah shure [22:43:50] Lancesis Trens > do you know how to make contracts and avoid paying tax ? [22:44:09] Dragy > of course, one second :) [22:44:40] Lancesis Trens > o.O [22:45:27] Lancesis Trens > hello ? [22:45:31] Dragy > <url=contract:30004260//835215>Phoenix</url> [22:46:17] Lancesis Trens > thats item excange you do know you will pay a big % of it's value as tax ? [22:46:25] Dragy > Awaiting for you to pick it up [22:46:52] Dragy > Nope, only brokers fee that's value is exactly 10k isk, it doesn't matter for how much it'll go [22:47:08] Dragy > You wouldn't want to scam me with auction scam, would you ? [22:47:09] Lancesis Trens > ah whatever item exchange is oke also [22:47:22] Dragy > Ok, so awaiting [22:47:33] Lancesis Trens > no man i wanted to make a <u>item exchange in wich i was the buyer</u> [22:47:40] Lancesis Trens > im not a scammer :) [22:48:16] Dragy > Ok, so collect it then :) [22:48:37] Lancesis Trens > i did not know that the tax is strait 10k ? isen't it as a % ? anyway,,, i can't buy the ship... i am missing ..2 mil hold on to see if some friends are online [22:48:54] Dragy > of course [22:49:00] Dragy > take your time [22:49:41] Lancesis Trens > ah and .. even if i did whant a prv auction scam etc... you can not do it for a npc corp :) [22:50:54] Dragy > but you can do it for a single person [22:51:11] Lancesis Trens > no you can't [22:51:55] Dragy > if you say so [22:52:06] Dragy > ok, eta on you picking up that dread ? [22:53:04] Lancesis Trens > dunno waiting for corp m8 [22:53:17] Lancesis Trens > (only 5 in corp) [22:53:20] Lancesis Trens > none online [22:53:37] Dragy > well ... you're 2 days old and a member of a noob corp [22:54:13] Lancesis Trens > im an alt [22:54:20] Dragy > i noticed [22:54:24] Dragy > what's your real name ? [22:54:35] Lancesis Trens > why should i say my real name ? [22:55:13] Lancesis Trens > <url=evemail:The Vamp>The Vamp</url>****** [22:56:04] Dragy > ok [22:56:34] Lancesis Trens > sry for this but i forgot i bought some stuff and im down to 1.98 bil [22:57:55] Dragy > and no of your corpmates is online ? [23:00:11] Dragy > ? [23:00:47] Lancesis Trens > nope :( i would log in with my main but then i can't atm im doing something [23:01:09] Lancesis Trens > + that i am reselling the ship [23:01:14] Lancesis Trens > with this alt [23:01:29] Lancesis Trens > not actualy resiling more like traiding [23:02:54] Dragy > i see [23:06:13] Lancesis Trens > whell i dunno either ill take it later [23:06:17] Lancesis Trens > when i log my main [23:06:18] Dragy > wait [23:06:28] Dragy > wait a minute if you can :) [23:06:28] Lancesis Trens > either you can borrow me 2 mil its youre choise [23:06:34] Lancesis Trens > shure [23:08:10] Dragy > plz accept
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Dragy
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:23:00 -
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I love just the way he acted When he told me his name, i checked the corp, actually 5 man corp ... and then i saw a public channel, so i went there and found 2 of his "corpmates" online. Then i invited him there 
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[22:56:29] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome To <color=0xff00ff00>E-net Public. <color=0xffb2b2b2>A channel where friends of<color=0xff00ffff> you <color=0xffb2b2b2>and<color=0xff00ffff> <color=0xffffff00>-Union of the stars- <color=0xffb2b2b2>can hang out together. <color=0xff00ff00> You are the best <color=0xffb2b2b2>...<color=0xff00ff00> <color=0xffff0000>Fly safe today! <color=0xffb2b2b2>We also have a <color=0xffffffff>-Ts server- <color=0xff00ffff>195.4.16.234:10160 <color=0xffb2b2b2>pw on invite only -ask for it- [23:05:37] Dragy > he's possibly a scammer, i just want to make sure, will invite you to our convo [23:05:38] Dragy > ok ? [23:06:16] Thabato > why i not need [23:06:45] Dragy > do it for me, doh [23:06:53] Dragy > he'll just go away scared [23:07:25] Thabato > i not understand what you want [23:07:36] Dragy > just accept my invitation :) [23:07:51] Thabato > you can say it in this channel all i know only you not [23:10:34] Dragy > Lancesis (aka Vamp) it apears that 2 of your corpmates are on right now [23:11:06] Lancesis Trens > LOL ok you cought me with me pants down [23:11:39] Dragy > ... you need to work with your lies [23:11:56] Lancesis Trens > whell it was the first guy i had on my buddy list lol [23:12:06] Dragy > lol [23:12:20] Dragy > .... [23:12:28] Dragy > ok, scamming topic time =-D [23:12:42] Lancesis Trens > yeah ...lol at least i tryed to get 2 mil from you [23:12:49] Dragy > ... [23:13:14] Dragy > 1,98bil means that you'd need 20mil more ... [23:14:19] Lancesis Trens > 1.988 [23:14:25] Lancesis Trens > no...1.998 [23:14:28] Lancesis Trens > i should have sayd [23:14:43] Lancesis Trens > thats why you did not sended the cash hahah [23:14:59] Lancesis Trens > i was thinking to myself... he sells a 2 bil ship but he desen't give 2 mil [23:15:09] Sunken Yamamato > i got a few days befor a mail were scammers are named... and Lancesis your name is in this mail so go and try other ppl.... [23:16:37] Lancesis Trens > really ? haha cool i did not know of such a mail [23:17:28] Sunken Yamamato > do you really think scammers get thoses mails.....only maby trader and prodder so hf and block [23:17:54] Lancesis Trens > can i have it :) [23:19:26] Thabato > sunken has blocked you you cant reach him [23:20:13] Lancesis Trens > ah ok whell sry for any problems i made... ill get off the channel... bye bye and good luck [23:21:20] Dragy > cya loser
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gettosmurf
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:36:00 -
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Hehe, scammers are fun, always be on your toes and you might get a funny story out of it 
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Dragy
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:42:00 -
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Sorry for the chatlogs 
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HornFrog
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.02.18 00:03:00 -
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Do not post chatlogs. If you want to post them, use the Pirate Stories thread at the top of this forum.
As this was the point of the thread, *clickeh*.
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