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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.02.17 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Smith on 17/02/2007 03:16:04 Just out of curiosity I checked our kb, it was us and he lost a thorax + pod. The reason the gatecamp was set up the way it was is the same reason that today we could comfortably handle 2-3 battleships jumping in simultaniously a few times, and ransomed a guy for a navy megathron (eject and live, or lose both the ship, and your implants). We have to be prepared for a fight, just as you have to be prepared to avoid people like us.
Edit: Shpellingz ----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg
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Smertrios
Amarr The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.02.17 03:41:00 -
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You are forgetting the fact that pirate have to tank sentry guns while camping a gate.
Simple fact is less than say 3 ships and the damage is unsustainable for the most part, let alone killing any ship or ships that come through.
More ships that are there the easier it is to camp and thats why you see large camps.
Having said that many corps bring big gangs to hunt us pirates and i/we have had some good fights (many of which i have died in :) ) so numbers is essential.
My advice is scout with an alt, lowsec is dangerous and should never be underestimated.
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Plaetean
Blood Sweat and Tears
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Posted - 2007.02.17 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL
Originally by: Plaetean You can only get gate camped in low sec/0.0, and you get a warning before jumping into those systems saying that they are dangerous, so you have been warned. Gate camps are also a great source of income, and in 0.0 they are about maintaing control of space and regulating access.
Plus, due to the nature of eve, the only place you can catch people while they are travelling (that's what the majority of people are doing in low sec) is at gates.
They really aren't that hard to avoid, and if you got caught 7 times in the same gate camp...
The only reason why I'm going trough a low sec is because I don't feel like going 60 jumps to a place that will take me 30 jumps (While going through a low sec). Besides I only had 4 low sec to go trough and I got caught by the last Stargate..! Makes sense right...
Makes sense that the shorter way should be more dangerous?
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GodofHELL
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Posted - 2007.02.17 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: GodofHELL on 17/02/2007 05:40:15 K, let me rephrase: I'm sorry for calling you chickens! I'm sorry for calling you *****cat's! It is starting to make sence now, I have read most of the posts(and ignored some the trolling)! Anyway, I guess I will have to stay out of the low sec's for now and Try to improve in "Group Warfare" seeing as the "PvP'ing" is a thing of the "Stone Age" But, I'm sure I will get lucky sooner or later and get my wish seeing as EvE is a Massive Multi Player On-line game "anything is possible right..?
Until we meet again.. Fly Safe you Pirates... Btw, Ninjas are cooler then Pirates :P
PEACE
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Samirol
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.17 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL Btw, Ninjas are cooler then Pirates :P
thats because they didnt pay the ransom and they are floating around as frozen corpses
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Hesed
Hamartia.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 08:26:00 -
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During their formative stages, many pvpers spent a lot of time mining. This has deeply affected their expectations of other people and weeded out the enterprising, the impetuous and the adventurous.
Naw just kidding. CCP started a popular urban legend years ago that ships sometimes have prizes inside. Pods making noises when you pour milk on em. If you send in enough killmails, you get a decoder ring.
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Katrina Coreli
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.17 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: GodofHELL Btw, Ninjas are cooler then Pirates :P
thats because they didnt pay the ransom and they are floating around as frozen corpses
Why are pirates better than ninjas
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x Misako
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: x Misako on 17/02/2007 14:40:25 Edited by: x Misako on 17/02/2007 14:36:23 (kinda longish post)
Dear Mr. God!
When you kill a pod, you get a squishy sound. Of course, usually you don't, since the voice engine in EVE is kind of bugged and most people play without sounds, but even tho they listen to silence, they are AWARE the squish is there. Hell, it even rhymes.
As to the whole gate camping thing, I will never understand why it always ends in flames. Eve is about pursuing fun, which requires money. Camping is just one of many ways to make that money. Some people mine, some people do missions, others explore and some camp the gates. The so-called "pirates" don't come with congenital brain tumors that cause anti-sociality and ooze 10000 ISK per minute into their accounts. Try to keep in mind that EVE is an open-ended world and as such there are no better or worse ways to earn your living, there are just some that collide with your personal well-being.
Also, killing and dying is overrated. It's a symbol of weakness and submission, so we tend to be cranky about having our ships destroyed. Ergo, your typical carebear will run around yelling how bad and inhuman pirates are. But if you look at the bigger picture, pirates aren't actually the worst of your worries. Let's say you fly Vexors while trying your luck in low sec, do some missions in Myrmidons and Domis and train for the Ishtar. In the meantime pirates kill several of your cruisers and maybe a battlecruiser, which amounts to - let's assume quasi-tech2 - 80 million loss. Since you probably have some friends and the pirates were flashy red, you probably had the upper hand a few times and actually came on top of a few fights, so you also should have got a few positive experiences.
Now you finish your training and buy an Ishtar for how much? 160 million? Well, you just got screwed for about 100! In one shot. Scam of the month! That's much worse than pirates, but you're actually happy about your new buy because you peacefully spent your honestly earned money on something with a cool greenish paintjob. That's pretty much the peak of psychological absurdity.
Now the even funnier thing is that it's not the t2 producers (another word for pirates, it seems!) who screwed the carebear over, it's the ordinary people around him. That's what happens when you let monkeys play in a free market economy. I mean, anybody in their right mind realizes that the aforementioned Ishtar is a mini-dominix that moves faster and has got the coolest color, but can be nossed to death quite easily and is built for something around 30 million ISK. However, the supply is limited and a Dominix doesn't support a typical person's e-peen, apparently, so people swarm the damn queues and pay ridiculous prices for their fancy toys, thus screwing themselves and everybody else in the process. How more stupid can you get?
It would seem that while we can live in the world of illusions, our subconsciousness can't. It stores the frustration and it has to get out somewhere... and the *bad* guys are so handy, aren't they?
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.02.17 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL Btw, what do you get when you kill a POD?
Typically some idiot noob whining on the forums with the same mindless drivel they all diseminate after getting ganked in an easily avoidable situation to make themselves feel better about their own abundant stupidity that afforded them the courage, but none of the wit, to venture into low sec instead of sucking rocks in high sec. And that is it's own reward.
And by the way, I rule you.
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Major Shake
Gallente Lunar-Base
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Posted - 2007.02.17 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL Btw, what do you get when you kill a POD?
A big ass sec hit
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zuss
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Posted - 2007.02.18 05:23:00 -
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Gate camping is for noobs
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zuss
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Posted - 2007.02.18 05:25:00 -
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Better yet it's for the weak
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TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.02.18 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL Edited by: GodofHELL on 16/02/2007 18:25:06 4 X BS + 2 X Elite Cruiser (While Gate-Camping)
hi ;)
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Major Shake
Gallente Lunar-Base
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Posted - 2007.02.18 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: zuss Better yet it's for the weak
If having a nice wallet if for the weak then I'm all for it. you go be all high and mighty while you enjoy people taking off whenever you and your -6.9 sec status enters local
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Ithica Ramlix
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Posted - 2007.02.18 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ithica Ramlix on 18/02/2007 07:15:03 I understand your anger at pirates. I myself have been podded twice now, each time in an indy, losing about 20 mil in robotics each time. Sure I was mad, just like anyone who loses a ship when they don't expect to, but I didn't go off the deep end and flame half of the eve population.
Personaly, I think healthy pirate activity adds wounderfully to the eve experience. Danger is the spice of life, and it is this challenge that makes this game worth playing
Try this, get in a cheapo frig with cheapo modules and scout out ****-space. Read stuff like this, and giulds to pvping. Sooner or later you will figure out tactics that work.
One more thing. Ratting in empire may be safe, you might even make decent money, but it gets boring...fast. Pvp is different. There is a reason why more ships in eve are lost to panic then any blaster or missle volley. Pvp is dangerous, and very exciting, so much so that people lose their wits when it's really on-the-line. For me, this is the ultimate goal of any game, to be so excited, so terrified that my hand don't stop shaking for ten minutes. Eve delivers that thrill like no other game I have played.
Thats why eve is worth the pain that comes with it.
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GodofHELL
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Posted - 2007.02.18 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: GodofHELL Edited by: GodofHELL on 16/02/2007 18:25:06 4 X BS + 2 X Elite Cruiser (While Gate-Camping)
hi ;)
Yea, you where one of them you BASTRADO!!!
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TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.02.18 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL
Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: GodofHELL Edited by: GodofHELL on 16/02/2007 18:25:06 4 X BS + 2 X Elite Cruiser (While Gate-Camping)
hi ;)
Yea, you where one of them you BASTRADO!!!
muhahahahaha
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zuss
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Posted - 2007.02.18 20:00:00 -
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Let me tell you somthing son...Anybody who gate camps alot are used to fighting in gangs and not alone,and if you encounter a 1V1 fight you'r left for the vultures because you dont have any(or hardly)the experience to handle a 1v1 fight and because you'r always used to having that extra guy being there for you.....
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.18 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Plaetean You can only get gate camped in low sec/0.0
You can gate camp in High Sec also. I do it all the time. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.18 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: Plaetean You can only get gate camped in low sec/0.0
You can gate camp in High Sec also. I do it all the time.
Well were not all loaded enough to do what you guys do
Never again are you allowed to complain about not training for combat |
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EPSILON DELTA
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Posted - 2007.02.18 23:11:00 -
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EVE is a game You kill people in all games You don't check if its a fair fight before you kill them.
If someone in CS is running toward you with a knife, do you shoot him or take out your own knife? if someone in starcraft rush you with his workers, do you kill them or do you send out your own workers to fight? if someone's too dumb to check map before jumping into a camped system, do you let him go or do you shoot him? -------------------------------------------------- Yes I'm a forum alt, what you going to do about it? |
Major Stormer
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.18 23:25:00 -
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Whats a gatecamp?
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.19 02:22:00 -
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The dude earlier said it best, its the nature and consequences of EVE travel, period.
Also, if you remember nothing else, remember this : EVE fosters meta-gaming, scamming and ganks, and most importantly you are safe only in a Station.
Oh yeah, I forgot this: dont be a Tard. The Excessive Tardness penalties in EVE can be quite severe. |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.19 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer Whats a gatecamp?
Think of it like fishing with a machine gun while in a tent full of people that won't shut up on ts
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Khetchi
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Posted - 2007.02.19 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: GodofHELL Btw, what do you get when you kill a POD?
They are actually being nice. Not only do you get a free teleport back to your home station where you can purchase a new ship and try again to reach your destination, but now they have flagged the system they are operating out of as a "System with recent Pod kills" and thus informed everyone that can use their Map that they are gatecamping that system.
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ian666
Minmatar Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.02.19 12:17:00 -
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Pirates used to belt hunt when it was worth it, now its not and your lucky if you even see anyone in a belt, local is also way to fast so people see you before you are out of the jump gate black screen, so gate camping it is and well if you thought about it thats easy to avoid also.
We could scan down mission runners o wait nope that was hit with the nerf bat after being made way to easy to scan, so we now wait for you on the gate so that you can't get to your missions lol.
You moan to CCP we adapt, if only carebears would think first instead of the simple moan moan, CCP CCP plz its like so unfair that i've jumped into a low sec unpoliced system with out checking that you need to add me a invulnerability modual then eve would be DEAD.
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Profhet
Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.02.20 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: zuss Gate camping is for noobs
I see what your doing here. ____________________________
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Cavtrooper
Caldari Hades Ascent
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:35:00 -
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Very good traffic... much easier and sometimes can even be fun! Need a jump clone? Tired of jumping 30 jumps to hang out with friends? Try our new Jump Clone Service! |
Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.20 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Major Stormer Whats a gatecamp?
Think of it like fishing with a machine gun while in a tent full of people that won't shut up on ts
You just might get me to change my sig --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.20 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: ian666 Pirates used to belt hunt when it was worth it, now its not and your lucky if you even see anyone in a belt, local is also way to fast so people see you before you are out of the jump gate black screen, so gate camping it is and well if you thought about it thats easy to avoid also.
We could scan down mission runners o wait nope that was hit with the nerf bat after being made way to easy to scan, so we now wait for you on the gate so that you can't get to your missions lol.
You moan to CCP we adapt, if only carebears would think first instead of the simple moan moan, CCP CCP plz its like so unfair that i've jumped into a low sec unpoliced system with out checking that you need to add me a invulnerability modual then eve would be DEAD.
HAHAHAHAH so true.
It usually goes... Carebears: NERF PIRATING CCP: Well, we've considered the options and will now nerf pirates. Pirates: Why? We're just as valid a play style. CCP: The masses have spoken, I'm sorry guys. Carebears: LOL ADAPT ********S!!!!1!!1ELEVEN!! Pirates: Alright, dammit... Carebears: WAAAAAAAH they don't ransom us anymore and just instantly pod us because they are now forced to camp gates in smartbombing BS's!!! There's no defense against it!!! Pirates: Hey, we were happy to hunt you in belts and give you a chance, but you didn't want to try that hard.
Rinse and Repeat. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
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