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Great Guardian
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.17 09:09:00 -
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12.1 What is an exploit?
The common definition of an exploit is ôto use the game mechanics in such a way as they were not intended for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over other players.ö Due to the ever-changing dynamics involved with maintaining a virtual, persistent world, it can sometimes be difficult or confusing to determine what might be considered an exploit.
Though every effort is made to avoid glitches that enable exploits to be used, they are occasionally discovered. Players have the responsibility of understanding how the game works and keeping themselves informed about changes to the game in order to comprehend what is deemed as an exploit. Those who are charged with employing the use of exploits will be reprimanded, which may include temporary suspension or a permanent ban of the account. Professing ignorance that you didnÆt know you were using an exploit will not prevent the enforcement of this rule.
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Well it doesn't say anything exactly about the agression timer, but the way D2 lost their Titan is after what's written under "12.1 What is an exploit?" an exploit.
The point is that this is a dubious exploit of a game mechanic intended for the purpous of punishing players for logging off in the middle of a fight to save their pod or ship. This was NOT the freaking case with D2 Titan. Far from it! ..and THERE lies the freaking exploit! " I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will |
Meriones
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.02.17 10:50:00 -
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IBTL
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Draxxxion
GIT-R-DUN Southern Connection
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:04:00 -
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No
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III LightBringer
Death by Drones
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: III LightBringer on 17/02/2007 11:12:43 I'd say borderline, but, this is one 'feature' CCP can fix fairly fast.
make a chat-box apear if you try to quit while on an agro timer, and, put in that countdown-thingie that they have in empire on agro for 0.0 so it is possible to see if you have agro.
What I would like to know is how that covert got there? And how everyone was in place for a log-off... That smells just as rotten as when Cyvok couldn't get back in when fighitng BOD in Esoteria, and I expect some senior GM that have nothing to do with BOB to make sure this was a clean kill.. and that no ships or equipment got 'spawned'.. Like.. how the H****LL did that covertops pilot know when he was about to log off? Stinks if you ask me.
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Great Guardian 12.1 What is an exploit?
The common definition of an exploit is ôto use the game mechanics in such a way as they were not intended for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over other players.ö Due to the ever-changing dynamics involved with maintaining a virtual, persistent world, it can sometimes be difficult or confusing to determine what might be considered an exploit.
Though every effort is made to avoid glitches that enable exploits to be used, they are occasionally discovered. Players have the responsibility of understanding how the game works and keeping themselves informed about changes to the game in order to comprehend what is deemed as an exploit. Those who are charged with employing the use of exploits will be reprimanded, which may include temporary suspension or a permanent ban of the account. Professing ignorance that you didnÆt know you were using an exploit will not prevent the enforcement of this rule.
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Well it doesn't say anything exactly about the agression timer, but the way D2 lost their Titan is after what's written under "12.1 What is an exploit?" an exploit.
The point is that this is a dubious exploit of a game mechanic intended for the purpous of punishing players for logging off in the middle of a fight to save their pod or ship. This was NOT the freaking case with D2 Titan. Far from it! ..and THERE lies the freaking exploit!
NightmareX Alt Stand up and be counted!
Thats not the intended purpose of the logoff timer. The logoff timer applies to all ships aggroed. For example freighters webbed by their corpmates.
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Great Guardian 12.1 What is an exploit?
The common definition of an exploit is ôto use the game mechanics in such a way as they were not intended for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over other players.ö Due to the ever-changing dynamics involved with maintaining a virtual, persistent world, it can sometimes be difficult or confusing to determine what might be considered an exploit.
Though every effort is made to avoid glitches that enable exploits to be used, they are occasionally discovered. Players have the responsibility of understanding how the game works and keeping themselves informed about changes to the game in order to comprehend what is deemed as an exploit. Those who are charged with employing the use of exploits will be reprimanded, which may include temporary suspension or a permanent ban of the account. Professing ignorance that you didnÆt know you were using an exploit will not prevent the enforcement of this rule.
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Well it doesn't say anything exactly about the agression timer, but the way D2 lost their Titan is after what's written under "12.1 What is an exploit?" an exploit.
The point is that this is a dubious exploit of a game mechanic intended for the purpous of punishing players for logging off in the middle of a fight to save their pod or ship. This was NOT the freaking case with D2 Titan. Far from it! ..and THERE lies the freaking exploit!
NightmareX Alt Stand up and be counted!
Thats not the intended purpose of the logoff timer. The logoff timer applies to all ships aggroed. For example freighters webbed by their corpmates.
Ahh get a clue, do you really want me to petition you for beeing an ass here?
It's not my alt.
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.17 13:27:00 -
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exploit, i say. Its not intended for the purpose...
Do an agro on unpiloted ship. .
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Alakazam
Bob The Builder Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.02.17 13:33:00 -
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To me it's clearly an exploit.
Aggression timer was added to stop making people log off to save their ship in a fight/hostile situation.
In this case aggression timer was triggered after a pilot logged off to kill his ship. This is not how the aggression timer was intended to work. Thus it was exploiting the functionality of aggression timer.
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Great Guardian
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Edde Bebbi
NightmareX Alt Stand up and be counted!
Edde what BoD is not allowed to post on eveo anymore so you use alts? GG is MY main and I have been playing EVE for almost 2 years. I was in EVE during open beta, but decided not to play at that time. BoD part of CCP is on good way to destroy this game that was supposed to be great mix of Alien and Bladerunner, a successor of great Elite serial from David Braben. I was watching EVE and CCP for at least 2-3 years before open beta was launched and I hate to see how you guys and corrupted part of CCP is ruining this game.
" I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will |
ChronoSphere
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:26:00 -
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This is supposed to be an in character forum. Talking about exploits is out-of-character. It should be locked or moved to an OOC forum. --------- Lieutenant Commander ChronoSphere, SGHQ Inc. Security Division Executive Officer, Battlegroup 2 - The Gunslingers "Aut Vincere Aut More"
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Miraia Blue
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Posted - 2007.02.17 17:18:00 -
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in my eyes: exploit |
Zalt O
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Posted - 2007.02.17 17:37:00 -
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flame bait, post with your main, dev's please remove
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illusha
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Posted - 2007.02.17 19:14:00 -
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Zalt, your an idiot. He just said he posted with his main and if you actually bothered to check his name in peoples and places in Eve then you would have seen that this is his main. Of course you didn't, why? Because you are an idiot.
P.S. I have known this person for 1+ year in Eve and this is his main.
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Great Guardian
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.17 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: illusha Zalt, your an idiot. He just said he posted with his main and if you actually bothered to check his name in peoples and places in Eve then you would have seen that this is his main. Of course you didn't, why? Because you are an idiot.
P.S. I have known this person for 1+ year in Eve and this is his main.
/bow Illusha {my dear and respectable friend}
" I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will |
Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.02.17 22:23:00 -
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Exploit.
This game is not worth playing anymore except for farming and selling isk on ebay. Signature removed as it fails to comply with the rules. Also, please think of the epileptics :) -Ivan K
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Babs Johnson
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Babs Johnson on 17/02/2007 23:00:13 This sounds like an interesting "game" you are playing, with titans and destruction and all.
I love games. What's it called?
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doom tomb
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Alakazam In this case aggression timer was triggered after a pilot logged off to kill his ship. This is not how the aggression timer was intended to work. Thus it was exploiting the functionality of aggression timer.
For the umpteenth time he was logged IN when he received the timer. IF the smart bomb detonated AFTER he logged off he would have received NO timer.
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La Pounania
Minmatar Majestic Knights
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:59:00 -
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borderline but this is bob if they can't win fair they will go down and dirty, i would say its an exploid because if they let this happen, soon everybody will start using this sort of gameplay and it will kill fair pvp for a big part of the people playing a fair fun game of pvp. do you want to think everytime you logg that you didn't see some lame alt messing around with your timer? i know i don't, that will make me paranoid and i play a game to relax. if this is the way pvp is going to be in the future, well then i don't see much good for it. ______________________________________________________ |
Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.18 00:04:00 -
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In character?
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.18 00:14:00 -
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Clearly an exploit, using the game mechanics in the way they were not intended to be used.
The aggression timer is to prevent people from logging off in combat, not to keep the person bound to his computer chair for 23 hours. The titan was not in combat, it planned to log off, waited more than enough, and logged off outside of combat.
Clearly an exploit of game mechanic that was not meant for this.
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Medical One
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Posted - 2007.02.18 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Meriones Edited by: Meriones on 17/02/2007 10:58:17 IBTL
*Edit- Sorry. Since I'm first I guess I can be a little more constructive and helpful than that
1. I think maybe it narrows down to, Be a little more careful with your Titan. It is a Titan..Afterall..
2. This isnt the question&answer's section. Posting like that here just makes you look.. err... show's your a crybaby.
Be a little more careful with your titan?
Hmm lets see.. NO AGRO TIMER UNTIL AFTER YOU CLOSE YOUR CLIENT, NO FLEET IN THE system that can kill ya at the time you close your client, oh yea I see total wrecklessness here your absolutely right.
gimme a frickn break. Exploit plain and simple.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.18 01:05:00 -
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no
not an exploit...we have accepted the loss...now move on pls
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Faith Black
Minmatar Rolls Roids
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Posted - 2007.02.18 01:23:00 -
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Uhm, wrong door, I guess. Thought this is the summit. I leave. Bye. ------ No.1 reason to post with an alt: Avoiding that your main looks too silly. |
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Eshtir
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.02.18 01:50:00 -
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Please dont discuss exploits or possible exploits on the forums.If you think someone used exploits fill out a petition and the GM team will deal with it. Also this is a RP forum section.
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