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Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2016.04.27 13:55:41 - [121] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Mike Adoulin wrote: Zet Soirn wrote: We can hardly do anything, since CONCORD won-¦t let us. Actually, there is this thing called 'war declaration'. Then CONCORD goes bye-bye. Be seeing you. Stop playing dumb, you know what is ment by "nothing". It has been explaned here lots of times.
Zet Soirn Soirn Enterprises 12	Posted - 2016.04.27 13:57:55 - [122] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Zet Soirn wrote: We can hardly do anything, since CONCORD won-¦t let us. Actually, there is this thing called 'war declaration'. Then CONCORD goes bye-bye. Be seeing you. Yea, wardecin-¦ your alt corp with 4 members. That will help. Stop playin-¦ dumb.
Dom Arkaral Axios 325	Posted - 2016.04.27 13:58:44 - [123] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Zet Soirn Soirn Enterprises 12	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:01:59 - [124] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... And this is a CODE player. In case you wondering, why he sounds mentally challenged.
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:02:15 - [125] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... Monkey, you don't know nuffin about me.
Dom Arkaral Axios 325	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:04:48 - [126] - Quote Zet Soirn wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... And this is a CODE player. In case you wondering, why he sounds mentally challenged. No offense, but you can't understand even the simplest game mechanics... you are really really dumb... Like wow, first time seeing people so clueless and it hurts my eyes Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Dom Arkaral Axios 325	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:05:53 - [127] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... Monkey, you don't know nuffin about me. Resorting to name calling already? GG Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Zet Soirn Soirn Enterprises 12	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:06:08 - [128] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Zet Soirn wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You can shoot people with killrights and people with sec status below -5.0 freely btw... But you knew that right? This would only metter if bubbles were actually allowed in high sec. Facepalms And this is the type of player that CCP wants to help... And this is a CODE player. In case you wondering, why he sounds mentally challenged. No offense, but you can't understand even the simplest game mechanics... you are really really dumb... Like wow, first time seeing people so clueless and it hurts my eyes Seems like you are the one, who can-¦t understand, since you didn-¦t bring up any arguments, except for being a good CODE parrot.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1723	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:06:42 - [129] - Quote Sorry, not an alt corp. Also, post with yer main or GTFO. And the only moronic imbecile around here is you. But then again, you ARE a carebear. Since EVE is apparently not your thing, I recommend Star Trek Online. You'll love it. Be seeing you. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:08:24 - [130] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Resorting to name calling already? GG Go back and ckeck your adhominem **** first. Anyway, there is no reasoning with code scum anyway sice they don't understand logic.

Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:11:02 - [131] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Resorting to name calling already? GG Go back and ckeck your adhominem ** first. Anyway, there is no reasoning with code scum anyway sice they don't understand logic. Mike Adoulin wrote:** Sorry, not an alt corp. Also, post with yer main or GTFO. And the only moronic imbecile around here is you. But then again, you ARE a carebear. Since EVE is apparently not your thing, I recommend Star Trek Online. You'll love it. Be seeing you. I see someone is out of meds.
Dom Arkaral Axios 325	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:11:33 - [132] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Resorting to name calling already? GG Go back and ckeck your adhominem **** first. Anyway, there is no reasoning with code scum anyway sice they don't understand logic. Calm down mate You got beat... no need to cry all over the place XD Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Zet Soirn Soirn Enterprises 12	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:11:36 - [133] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Sorry, not an alt corp. Also, post with yer main or GTFO. And the only moronic imbecile around here is you. But then again, you ARE a carebear. Since EVE is apparently not your thing, I recommend Star Trek Online. You'll love it. Be seeing you. You mad, bruv? EvE is kinda my thing. I am gonna continue carelessly rolling around Hi-sec, makin-¦ dope cash and mining without any need to do any PvP. Topkeklel. Cause sandbox and cause I can.
Toxic Yaken Plunder the Wrecks 90	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:12:32 - [134] - Quote Assuming suicide pointing a freighter will reset the time needed to enter warp, this is a way better nerf than what most gankers could have hoped for. Not sure why we need another grr gankers thread though. Highsec Pirate Vote Toxic Yaken for CSM XI!
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:13:21 - [135] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: You got beat... no need to cry all over the place XD I got what? Reality defying code bs does not effect me.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:24:00 - [136] - Quote Zet Soirn wrote: In Monopoly, fields are elevated. I can threaten you the same way, you can threaten me. In EvE, in Hi-sec, I see a suicide ganker and I can-¦t pre-emptively strike you. It is just you having the upper hand. So, you can achieve your "victory", but I am not allowed to achieve mine, which comes to down to CONCORD mechanics, that are there to.... (blah blah blah) ....whereas in Monopoly I have tools to force consequences on you. ....comparings. Zet Soirn, if there be any virtue in persistence, it lies in being persistent and correct. To persist in an argument when you have been proven wrong by a number of better-qualified persons smacks merely of bull-headedness. However, I'm feeling generous, so here we go: In EVE Online, the same tools which are available to me, are available to you. Counters to suicide-ganking exist, should you decide to make use of them. So, just as in Monopoly, where you have 'tools to force consequences', so do you in EVE. Perhaps your familiarity with those tools is lacking (this is where the 'complexity' you mentioned, comes in), but they are there, nevertheless. 'Comparings' is not a noun plural, which should have been readily apparent to you by its being underlined in red when you finished typing. The word you're looking for is 'comparisons'. I see from a cursory glance down the thread that you are still trying to squawk your drivel at us. You grow more and more shrill and hysterical with each post, it seems. O well, it was a pleasant way to spend an extended downtime, I guess. Now; that Citadel Expansion!
Dom Arkaral Axios 325	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:28:49 - [137] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You got beat... no need to cry all over the place XD I got what? Reality defying code bs does not effect me. Then why are you sperging nonsense about game mechanics all over the place? Did I touch a nerve or something? Did I break your fragile little heart? It's what I do naturally to carebears like you. I also don't need to hide behind alts to swing my pretty epeen around And remember the 2 most important rules of EVE: 1 - you consent to pvp the moment you undock 2- don't fly what you can't afford to lose Oh and pixels Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2438	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:44:46 - [138] - Quote Zet Soirn wrote: WILL YOU FINALLY ACCEPT, THAT I ACCEPT PVP? I am not saying I should or want to be invincible, intouchable within the game. Ok, well then why are you complaining you are vulnerable to other players or that there is no way to make yourself immune to them? Who cares who they are or what they do or what website they have, you just have to protect your stuff from them. And for the record, they have to protect their stuff from all the other players just the same as you. Zet Soirn wrote: Yea, I have to defend my stuff. I don-¦t wanna go Null, to be a lockey of some corp and low-sec is outta question. In Hi-sec, CONCORD helps with protection, the problem is, that CONCORD also protects you, criminals. If I could hire mercs to wipe you from Hi-sec, I would, but it cannot be done. People with criminal status can still dock and chill, no consenquences. I accept PvP, but as Indy player I myself want to avoid it, that-¦s sandbox. It doesn-¦t mean I wanna erase ganking mechanics, it means I want to have tools to drive you from Hi-sec, which I don-¦t have. And I want tools to drive you from highsec which I don't have. C'est la vie. You are not a special snowflake. We are all playing by the same rules, just like a game of Monopoly. If you want to play in the zone where no one can kick you out of your space completely, you cannot complain that you cannot kick someone else out of your space completely. As an aside, this is one of reasons why the New Order always wins: any safety mechanic that is given to carebears is also given to gankers who will almost inevitably find a way to use that safety to strike at their opponents. Highsec is so safe now that gankers can operate with impunity, using these same safety mechanics to do their logistics, scout their targets and set up the gank at little risk. But ultimately this is a game, just like cops and robbers (or Monopoly) and thus there are no permanent winners and losers. If you shoot the bad guy, he gets up and is ready to fight the next day, just like when you get shot, you reappear in a new clone little the worse for wear. There is always another game waiting be played so you will never have the tools to permanently drive another group from highsec. Zet Soirn wrote: You are the ones trying to isolate yourselves from the sandbox, BECAUSE YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GANK WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Same for you, if you want CODE space, go get it in Null. Doesn-¦t work like that in Hi-sec. I am afraid it does. Highsec belongs to James 315. In Eve, power ultimately comes from the end of a blaster as is fitting for a dystopian futuristic spaceship game. If you want ganking to have some additional consequences beyond the pretty onerous NPC ones, then it is up to you to apply those consequences, preferably with a blaster although a laser could work too. And for the record I am not at all isolated from the sandbox. Every time I do anything that generates resources into the universe or I do some industry in my POS I am at the exact same risk as you and everyone else. In any case, I want for nothing - I love playing Eve. I just want to play the game as CCP has designed it. If you do not like Eve, I kindly request you play something else rather than lobby for CCP to take my game play away for your own selfish reasons. Why Do They Gank?
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1724	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:46:56 - [139] - Quote Zet Soirn wrote: blah blah blah . I am gonna continue carelessly rolling around Hi-sec....... Why yes. Do that. Be seeing you. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite 2441	Posted - 2016.04.27 14:55:25 - [140] - Quote Zet Soirn wrote: All you have to do is kill some rats and sec status go up, so u get back below -5.0 quickly. To have killright, you have to be attacked or killed first, so here goes the pre-emptive strike. We almost exclusively work with -10 chars. We do not rat or buy tags, we just know how to move around with the faction police on our tails. Yes you can kill us before we do anything. You can even just warpdisrupt us on a gate ans watch how the faction police arrives and disassembles us. All those mechanics are stacked completely in favor of you. It seams all the tools you actually want are already there but you did not really look for them otherwise you would know how that works. You just want to cry some more for mom to change the game some more, so you don't actually have to do something to defend your stuff. ironically you came here to collect tears and now you shed them like a pro. At least something you are good at. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite 2444	Posted - 2016.04.27 15:01:03 - [141] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Monkey, you don't know nuffin about me. - You are a highsec miner - You claim this is just a forum alt, but actually this is your main - You are really mad because you used to be a lvl 78 voodoo-elf in wow and everyone should respect that I am sure I am 99% accurate the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2016.04.27 15:13:03 - [142] - Quote He seems very young. Perhaps I've been too harsh? Nope, I don't believe I have. There. I feel much better!
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2016.04.27 15:51:54 - [143] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Monkey, you don't know nuffin about me. - You are a highsec miner - You claim this is just a forum alt, but actually this is your main - You are really mad because you used to be a lvl 78 voodoo-elf in wow and everyone should respect that I am sure I am 99% accurate Try harder, docked up scrub. Dom Arkaral wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: You got beat... no need to cry all over the place XD I got what? Reality defying code bs does not effect me. Then why are you sperging nonsense about game mechanics all over the place? Did I touch a nerve or something? Did I break your fragile little heart? It's what I do naturally to carebears like you. I also don't need to hide behind alts to swing my pretty epeen around And remember the 2 most important rules of EVE: 1 - you consent to pvp the moment you undock 2- don't fly what you can't afford to lose Oh and pixels Nop, but I clearly touched yours. Docking ban for scum like you will be a thing. And that is why you went mad.
Dom Arkaral Axios 327	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:03:00 - [144] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Nop, but I clearly touched yours. Docking ban for scum like you will be a thing. And that is why you went mad. Sorry to break your little bubble, but I'm positive sec status on every toon. :) Try harder Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Ozzie Udan Caldari Provisions Caldari State 444	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:17:31 - [145] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Zet Soirn wrote: All you have to do is kill some rats and sec status go up, so u get back below -5.0 quickly. To have killright, you have to be attacked or killed first, so here goes the pre-emptive strike. We almost exclusively work with -10 chars. We do not rat or buy tags, we just know how to move around with the faction police on our tails. Yes you can kill us before we do anything. You can even just warpdisrupt us on a gate ans watch how the faction police arrives and disassembles us. All those mechanics are stacked completely in favor of you. It seams all the tools you actually want are already there but you did not really look for them otherwise you would know how that works. You just want to cry some more for mom to change the game some more, so you don't actually have to do something to defend your stuff. ironically you came here to collect tears and now you shed them like a pro. At least something you are good at. Your members do buy tags you low life ganker you lie All the other words you write are in fact correct, all the tools are here for us in AG to use and like ganking it is in fact quite hard to do, it's not for every one and there are day's we fail non stop, (in the words of an ex-pilot ganker ) but it's fun stopping gank fleets , it takes team work pilot skill, planning and a bit of luck To the guy they are having a go at, don't let them make you mad, these people are good at it, gankers and their lackeys are nothing but the old low sec pirates all with new names now living in empire space, we need to move them on I choose to fight these people, other high sec people need to banned together and learn the same, stop making weak one man corps, work with other players, build a corporation you are proud to be in, mine, make stuff, run missions with other pilots , Learn to fight for it and even die for it, these idiots will soon leave you be, Sorry started on a rant then but you know what I mean, it's an mmo, with this game you can do almost any thing but so can others and as pilots we need to learn the things you don't get skill books for, one step at a time. Pilot numbers are the key and I don't mean the number in corp description, pilots in space, together in the same area, doing similar stuff It's how EvE works best I think A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7557	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:23:15 - [146] - Quote Of course the gank crowd lies about everything. That's part of "the jollies". It's like those politicians who talk the talk of "family values" on the podium while carousing and gambling and nobody is looking. Best part about anti-ganking is it's still in development and it never stops. Tactics keep changing, and what works one day may not the next. Are we not entertained? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dom Arkaral Axios 327	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:29:40 - [147] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Best part about ganking is it's still in development and it never stops. Tactics keep changing, and what works one day may not the next. Corrected your post for you. Jokes aside, that statement is true for both sides. They're in perpetual change and they fail or succeed every once in a while Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
Tyyler DURden Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co. 240	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:29:53 - [148] - Quote Toxic Yaken wrote: Assuming suicide pointing a freighter will reset the time needed to enter warp, this is a way better nerf than what most gankers could have hoped for. Not sure why we need another grr gankers thread though. This started out as a grr bumpers thread and then went way out in left field. The only place I see this nerf affecting freighter ganks is in the rare instance AG stops a gank and code has to wait out their timers again. It's my understanding that code will have to suicide point the target every three minutes until the fleets timers run out, so they will need extra dudes just waiting around to do suicide pointing. I agree that doesn't seem like a huge obstacle for code to overcome. Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1169	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:35:35 - [149] - Quote Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. It looks like this thread has been sufficiently derailed. Thread closed. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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