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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
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Posted - 2016.04.25 04:00:05 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/
Quote:Medium Structure hulls will cost around 350-700m ISK in materials to build.
Large Structure hulls will cost around 3-7b ISK in materials to build.
X-Large Structure hulls will cost around 30-70b+ ISK in materials to build.
Is this still an accurate price-range? Or not anymore. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2016.04.25 04:15:35 -
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I've not confirmed, but market prices have supposedly significantly increased since the blog.
We'll know more after Wednesday. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2016.04.25 06:46:17 -
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nvm i can't read |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.04.25 06:48:22 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Check my recent posts I got a twitter pic there somewhere with a post by a ccl dev,prices went a bit up.
7 Bil med
70 bil Large
1200 Bil xl
Those are the prices for the BPOs from NPCs.
That's not the price of the citadel 'egg'. The price for the citadels should be cheaper for the medium and large; and I think based on what CCP Quant said during the Fanfest keynote, more expensive for the XL. |
Cytherea Deesse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.25 07:03:09 -
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Over in the industry and science sub forum they are discussing your question.
"I've plugged in the numbers they gave for materials and PI into a spreadsheet I made...with current prices in Amarr an Astrahus is over 1b without the cost of BPCs and the Fortizar is over 11B"
and another says
"According to me spreadsheet, just the P4 PI needed to make a M citadel would be 926M. But that doesn't include making them into components. My sheet calculates the total based on component sell and buy prices, but unfortunately structure components is such a new market the prices are no where near realistic or usable.
For example, the price to build a M citadel based on component buy price is 887M. Which is just wrong because it is less than P4 cost. And to build based on buy price you are looking at 2.1B. And that is because what few components there are on the market are marked up quite a bit currently."
So it does look like prices has gone up, and that is also what ccp says was the reason behind the BPO prices going up, as Pak Narhoo wrote.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2016.04.25 07:15:32 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Check my recent posts I got a twitter pic there somewhere with a post by a ccl dev,prices went a bit up.
7 Bil med
70 bil Large
1200 Bil xl Those are the prices for the BPOs from NPCs. That's not the price of the citadel 'egg'. The price for the citadels should be cheaper for the medium and large; and I think based on what CCP Quant said during the Fanfest keynote, more expensive for the XL.
Like I wrote in my edited post: "I can't read." :)
It will ring in the end of single man/ small corp POS's, going to be interesting to see where that leads to. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2016.04.25 08:57:27 -
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And what are maintaining cost for them? |
Blue Harrier
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:08:33 -
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Running cost for the actual Citadel with no service modules fitted is zero.
Costs for the service modules have two levels, a start-up cost and a running cost.
The Market is 2160 blocks to start it up (on-line it) and running cost of 30 blocks per hour.
The Clone Center costs 540 blocks to start it up and 7.5 blocks per hour running.
The Reprocessing Facility costs 270 blocks to start up and 3.75 blocks per hour.
That's all we have at the moment, so far (subject to chage) there is no repair facility while docked so you can't repair drones etc, however the ship will get a free repair to fitted systems while tethered.
"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point
Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:12:30 -
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Wait, no repair service?
Seriously?
That's terrible.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:18:38 -
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Yep, you're doomed. :) |
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Blue Harrier
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:30:13 -
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Yes, so much has been removed while testing that the launch on Wednesday will be a little disappointing for a great many.
You do have Offices and can rent them out, but there is no (from what I understand) direct trading between characters, most of the good stuff will not be here until late this year/early next.
We do have a very pretty parking lot 
"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
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Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Ripoff Works
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:31:20 -
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Actually, when tethered, everything on the ship will be repaired. Including drones and burnt out modules. |
Blue Harrier
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Posted - 2016.04.25 10:36:27 -
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That's odd because testing on SiSi didn't repair one of my damaged drones and I had to dock in an NPC station to repair it, but then there are still some subtle bugs to iron out so you could well be correct.
"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2016.04.25 15:16:10 -
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Blue Harrier wrote:We do have a very pretty parking lot
 OMG, CQ part II ! |
PAPULA
Black Aces
I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.04.25 15:35:09 -
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Added Upwell Palantine Keepstar Blueprint to the LP stores for all Upwell Consortium member corporations
Who are those corporations and where can i see this blueprint ?
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
EVEolution.
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Posted - 2016.04.25 16:43:55 -
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Aiwha wrote:Wait, no repair service?
Seriously?
That's terrible.
just been testing the citadels while your outside and teatherd you will be slowly repaired hull Armour shield modules AND capacitor. |
PAPULA
Black Aces
I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:00:56 -
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PAPULA wrote:Added Upwell Palantine Keepstar Blueprint to the LP stores for all Upwell Consortium member corporations
Who are those corporations and where can i see this blueprint ?
Ok i found corps that are selling 1 copy blueprint:
Chemal Tech Eifyr & Co. Intaki Bank Mordu's Legion Ytiri Zoar & Sons
From here:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/founding-of-upwell-consortium-announced-by-leading-interstellar-corporations/
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PAPULA
Black Aces
I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:02:54 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:Aiwha wrote:Wait, no repair service?
Seriously?
That's terrible. just been testing the citadels while your outside and teatherd you will be slowly repaired hull Armour shield modules AND capacitor.
Yep, repair is free when you undock or warp to citadel while Tethered.
It will repair all of items, burned modules, drones, shield hull armor, and recharge capacitor.
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:18:01 -
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If I recall correctly the repair of all ship bits occurs over 90 seconds.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:38:27 -
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It's going to be a very busy week for Eve, us, and CCP...that much is very certain. It's also, for me personally and many others, very interesting to see what comes of these structures...both creatively and destructively!
One thing I'm feeling much better about hearing is what I gather is how it will cost the owner to build, setup, and maintain and operate a Citadel. From what it sounds like, the rather "ominously" large cost to getting a hold of one compared to say a lone POS and some starter modules is somewhat offset by the fact that the cost of maintaining in terms of fuel for instance is flexible rather than some arbitrarily set amount that you must pay regardless of what you intend on doing with your POS. The only way to do largely the same thing with a POS was to strip the tower and offline the bugger...or pay in full per 30 days. Allowing Citadel owners to online and offline services so as to balance the cost of operation with the impact of general functionality rather than having the POS' method of "pay, no pay" will help make the initial cost of manufacturing and setup easier and more financially manageable. I haven't really dug deep into the information of the Citadel changes nor tried my hand at them on SiSi, but I get the feeling from what others have said that the old "solo-POS" owners might not be so extinct when all is said and done. I keep hearing a lot of things from others that make me think, "Oh, that's pretty neat," more so than the few, "Well, that sucks," so I'm rather on the optimism side of things so far.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.26 07:57:28 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:It's going to be a very busy week for Eve, us, and CCP...that much is very certain. It's also, for me personally and many others, very interesting to see what comes of these structures...both creatively and destructively! One thing I'm feeling much better about hearing is what I gather is how it will cost the owner to build, setup, and maintain and operate a Citadel. From what it sounds like, the rather "ominously" large cost to getting a hold of one compared to say a lone POS and some starter modules is somewhat offset by the fact that the cost of maintaining in terms of fuel for instance is flexible rather than some arbitrarily set amount that you must pay regardless of what you intend on doing with your POS. The only way to do largely the same thing with a POS was to strip the tower and offline the bugger...or pay in full per 30 days. Allowing Citadel owners to online and offline services so as to balance the cost of operation with the impact of general functionality rather than having the POS' method of "pay, no pay" will help make the initial cost of manufacturing and setup easier and more financially manageable. I haven't really dug deep into the information of the Citadel changes nor tried my hand at them on SiSi, but I get the feeling from what others have said that the old "solo-POS" owners might not be so extinct when all is said and done. I keep hearing a lot of things from others that make me think, "Oh, that's pretty neat," more so than the few, "Well, that sucks," so I'm rather on the optimism side of things so far.
Yes you can online and offline modules, but you won't save anything at all, in fact it will be much more expensive in regards to fuel costs.
Problem being that every time you do it you'll have to pay the onlining fuel cost again for each module. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:34:29 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Sobaan Tali wrote:It's going to be a very busy week for Eve, us, and CCP...that much is very certain. It's also, for me personally and many others, very interesting to see what comes of these structures...both creatively and destructively! One thing I'm feeling much better about hearing is what I gather is how it will cost the owner to build, setup, and maintain and operate a Citadel. From what it sounds like, the rather "ominously" large cost to getting a hold of one compared to say a lone POS and some starter modules is somewhat offset by the fact that the cost of maintaining in terms of fuel for instance is flexible rather than some arbitrarily set amount that you must pay regardless of what you intend on doing with your POS. The only way to do largely the same thing with a POS was to strip the tower and offline the bugger...or pay in full per 30 days. Allowing Citadel owners to online and offline services so as to balance the cost of operation with the impact of general functionality rather than having the POS' method of "pay, no pay" will help make the initial cost of manufacturing and setup easier and more financially manageable. I haven't really dug deep into the information of the Citadel changes nor tried my hand at them on SiSi, but I get the feeling from what others have said that the old "solo-POS" owners might not be so extinct when all is said and done. I keep hearing a lot of things from others that make me think, "Oh, that's pretty neat," more so than the few, "Well, that sucks," so I'm rather on the optimism side of things so far. Yes you can online and offline modules, but you won't save anything at all, in fact it will be much more expensive in regards to fuel costs. Problem being that every time you do it you'll have to pay the onlining fuel cost again for each module.
But if you dont intend on using a module for like 1 year, you would save a bunch, wold you not?
Also, will defenses require fuel? |
Grime89
Jovetec Industries
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:47:05 -
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Far as I can tell with current market price citadels will be considerably more expensive then CCP anticipated.
medium- 1-1.2 bil
large- 10-12 bil
xl- 100+ bil |
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