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Ice Moon
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:16:00 -
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I was about to fire off a smartbomb for the first time and a pop-up dialog warned me of death, suffering, pain etc. etc. if I went ahead.
Will something bad happen to my security status / life expectancy if I use a smartbomb in empire space, even if there are no objects on the scanner within 5km or whatever it is? I was wondering whether maybe smartbombs have a gradual falloff which means even objects a long way away take a bit of damage?
Thanks for your help with this noddy question,
C.
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Ghan Tylous
Caldari
The Graduates
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:22:00 -
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If you hit neutral ships with a smartbomb, CONCORD will pop your ship.
There are some circustances where a smartbomb would be usefull, but using a smartbomb in .5 space and higher will get CONCORD on your tails.
In .4 space and below, you will still get aggro but since CONCORD is not present in .4 and below they won't come after you. Though sentry towers will shoot at you, if you hit a neutral ship or is the one that aggros first.
You can use smartbombs in missions where there are warp scrambling frigates. Even though you are in empire space, you won't get aggro as long you don't hit a neutral ship.
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Larsson7
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:22:00 -
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Using smartbombs can be a tricky business 
In a nutshell - if you use a smartbomb within range of another player in 0.5 space and above then Concord will destroy you.
Activating a smartbomb within rnage of sentry guns in 0.4 to 0.1 will result in a similar response from the sentry guns.
The biggest danger in using smartbombs is the fact that you may activate within range of a cloaked ship and Concord will still kill you.
Using them for deadspace missions should generally be fine as long as you are on your own 
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Loc Maythan
Gallente
Alfa00 Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:25:00 -
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There is no inherent problem with using SBs in empire - you just have to be careful.
The warning it to remind you to check that there are no innocent bystanders, or space hardware - canisters, stations, sentries, drones, etc - within range, as they will take damage, and Concord will come and have a little 'chat' with you. If you think you are clear, fire away.
Note that cloaked ships also take damage if in range, and it is difficult to be certain there are none around.
As far as I know, everything in range takes the same damage - no fall-off.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:32:00 -
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If you are in a player corporation, as you may fire on your corpmates, it should be safe to make missions with smartbombs and your corpmates.
I used smartbombs in missions, but you have to take care that there is no "civilian/neutral" object around you. Such objects are unusual in missions as it seems some have been removed from them (or replaced with a faction other than one protected by concord).
Using smartbombs in a in open space (not a missions where you are the only one to have the waypoint) is just suicide as there are always other players, concord, customs, stations, gates and some civilian industrials at the wrong place at the wrong time and then concord kills you.
in missions, all items with "wanted" are safe to be shot or in smartbomb radius, but you can't really tell for those who are note "wanted". Still, it may be much easier sometimes to use smartbombs for rogue drones missions (because they have short range and most get within 5 km).
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Fenrec Deac
Malkalen Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:54:00 -
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Take care that you do not have your own drones nearby your ship ... they would take damage frome the smartbomb as well.
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.19 19:49:00 -
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Well if they take out your own drones also.. can't be a very smart bomb.
Smartbomb is a bad name for these things as a smart bomb actually hits a specific target w/o collateral damage.. these game "smartbombs" seem designed to do nothing but collateral damage.
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Pavlinka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.19 20:35:00 -
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i have a question, what if i will turn on smartbomb near acc. gate in mission ... will anythink happend? will concord kill me? or just nuffin???? i have never tryed this :D
Pavlinka & Pavlinecka
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.19 20:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Pavlinka
i have a question, what if i will turn on smartbomb near acc. gate in mission ... will anythink happend? will concord kill me? or just nuffin???? i have never tryed this :D
Why would you want to? Unless you are covered in rats.. seems like a waste. If you can target and attack the gate w/o getting a warning.. a smartbomb wont set off concord either.
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Tayvar Tal
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.02.19 22:03:00 -
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Smartbombs in this game are really energy pulses. FoF missles should be called smartbombs really.
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Sonya Rayner
Amarr
Unicorn Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pavlinka
i have a question, what if i will turn on smartbomb near acc. gate in mission ... will anythink happend? will concord kill me? or just nuffin???? i have never tryed this :D
You can't activate smartbombs within 5 km of stations, stargates, acceleration gates and other celestial objects (indestructible ones). Don't know about the ones with larger radius than 5 km though
Originally by: Tayvar Tal
Smartbombs in this game are really energy pulses. FoF missles should be called smartbombs really.
I prefer to call them "dumbbombs" o just "bombs" xD
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Enthien Ruthar
Caldari
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.07.20 12:19:00 -
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as long you don't hit a neutral ship
Or a neutral drone, even if the owner is in your gang/fleet.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.20 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Enthien Ruthar
Quote:
as long you don't hit a neutral ship
Or a neutral drone, even if the owner is in your gang/fleet.
You can hit gang/fleet members if they're within the same corporation "but not alliance" as you.
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Umamasyean
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Posted - 2007.07.21 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Umamasyean on 21/07/2007 06:28:40
Edited by: Umamasyean on 21/07/2007 06:27:56
Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Well if they take out your own drones also.. can't be a very smart bomb.
Smartbomb is a bad name for these things as a smart bomb actually hits a specific target w/o collateral damage.. these game "smartbombs" seem designed to do nothing but collateral damage.
I think "smartbomb" was originally used describe an all destruction weapon. Like in this old game called "Defender" reproducted in some handhelds.
It is only in "modern times" after the USA defense industry invented air-dropped target-seeking bombs that they re-defined "smartbomb". It just made it sound "impressive" in public media. Just like a "smartphone"...which don't seem to smart to me. LOL
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Umamasyean
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Posted - 2007.07.21 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Pavlinka
i have a question, what if i will turn on smartbomb near acc. gate in mission ... will anythink happend? will concord kill me? or just nuffin???? i have never tryed this :D
Why would you want to? Unless you are covered in rats.. seems like a waste. If you can target and attack the gate w/o getting a warning.. a smartbomb wont set off concord either.
I've done it in like "World's Collide", where you gotta fight these mobs near the gate once you get there. Nothing happened. I've also tried it when no one was arround. Nothing happens.
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Umamasyean
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Posted - 2007.07.21 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ice Moon
I was about to fire off a smartbomb for the first time and a pop-up dialog warned me of death, suffering, pain etc. etc. if I went ahead.
Will something bad happen to my security status / life expectancy if I use a smartbomb in empire space, even if there are no objects on the scanner within 5km or whatever it is? I was wondering whether maybe smartbombs have a gradual falloff which means even objects a long way away take a bit of damage?
Thanks for your help with this noddy question,
C.
I'ved used smartbombs in every level 1 kill mission I got and I never got ganked by Concord. Just don't press the F key by mistake while traveling. And yeah, say goodbye to your deployed drones. Though I still think it's cool and sometimes I deliberately leave them out to blow them up for the effect. hehehe
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