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Vlad Cetes
Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.02.20 04:41:00 -
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What is EVE? That is the question I am adressing today. EVE is about competition. Every phase of it exists to cull the weak from the strong.The Minmatar are enslaved becuase they were too weak to resist the Amarr and were thus taken captive. If they ever wish to truly claim there independence they must grow stronger than the Amarr. There republic is crumbling among unrest and violent factions fight both in Republic and Amarr space. Is this a strong government? One that cannot even control its own citizens? The Gallente treasure freedom and expression. Yes they have the freedom to leave worthy people in the street, people who could work and be profitable but who werent born to the right parents or didnt know the right people. The Amarr at least have some measure of strength. They keep their citizens in line, and have a stable government. Yet they took on too much and were defeated. The true sign of a man of great strength is restraint. The Caldari also have a measure of stability. The strongest wins. THose who are profitable will rise and those who cannot will die.
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Lexiana Del'Amore
Gallente Equilibrium Society
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Posted - 2007.02.20 08:16:00 -
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And your point is?
Or did you just feel the uncontrolable urge to submit a number of cliches?
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Cmdr Baxter
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.20 08:43:00 -
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Citizen, is your clone in proper working order? I fear that the lack of proper conclusion in your remarks on the nature of "Social Darwinism" (whatever that is) may only show outlanders that you have an errant memory circuit in one of your implants. _________________________________
Lt. (j.g.) Sionell "Commander" Baxter
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Sepherim
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2007.02.20 15:27:00 -
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Mr Cetes, social darwinism is a social theory that has been considered outdated quite long ago. Don't bother with it when the current scientists already have shown that those social dinamics are only partially true, and uncapable of explaining the events that take place. --------------------- Signature removed due to incorrect size (400X120px and 24000 bytes). Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions. You can view you signature here - Petwraith Ordo Quaesitoris Forum |
Katrina Kirellii
Caldari Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.02.20 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Katrina Kirellii on 20/02/2007 16:30:23 While there is CONCORD, there is no social growth - only stagnation and the slow decay of all we hold dear. CONCORD maintains this decay in their ultimate bid to rule us all through a military form of law.
All the governments are crumbling and CONCORD is the reason for that and our social decay.
Until they are removed, we will never know which form of government or society is indeed better. What we need is a visionary to take the civic responsibility, love of home and family, understanding of god, and sound business sense that each of us can aspire towards and show us a better future.
I say that today - somewhere this leader walks among us. I await his or her awakening...
I have seen people who have vision like Durandal Strauss, Morat Starhopper, Verone, and Chribba. I have seen others like Yllse, Martin, Ginger, and Cyvok whose actions lead to disaster. I have seen a few like Omber Zombie stand up to the galaxy and attempt to unify us all like a egg breaking upon the sad reality of a comedian's face.
Perhaps one should consult the Sisters of Eve as they ponder this question also. What is our Fate? I disagree with them and look not to reunification with the evils of our past through some mystic gateway. I pray for inspiration and Destiny to take hold of the common soul.
However, with Vlad I do agree on one thing. In reaching our destiny, there will be a break between the rich and the impoverished. Those with sound business sense will rule in the end. Those of religion will subsist upon our offerings as we deign. The rest who support ideals and family can still cherish them tomorrow - if only personally.
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Cmdr Baxter
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.20 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Baxter on 20/02/2007 16:35:20
Originally by: Katrina Kirellii While there is CONCORD, there is no social growth - only stagnation and the slow decay of all we hold dear. CONCORD maintains this decay in their ultimate bid to rule us all through a military form of law.
All the governments are crumbling and CONCORD is the reason for that and our social decay.
Until they are removed, we will never know which form of government or society is indeed better ...
More conspiracy drivel; these remarks about CONCORD being a vast machine out to rule the galaxy are nothing but conspiracy theories told by spinsters and people too afraid to go out their front door. CONCORD is a vast organization with many departments and sub-structures, that I will concede. But the slander of it standing in the way of progress is absurd.
Unless you're a pirate or criminal seeking to ply your trade in empire space. In which case CONCORD will keep you out permanently.
Look around you citizen. The State today enjoys one of the most productive lifestyles and highest standards of living in all of EVE. Even the lowest-ranking citizen must be comfortably middle class, because the Chief Executive Panel has already preceded you in its thinking about caring for the community as a whole.
We do not have to worry about who is out on the street and who isn't. In the State there is no such thing, and as a citizen of the State that is all you should care about. _________________________________
Lt. (j.g.) Sionell "Commander" Baxter
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Vlad Cetes
Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.02.20 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sepherim Mr Cetes, social darwinism is a social theory that has been considered outdated quite long ago. Don't bother with it when the current scientists already have shown that those social dinamics are only partially true, and uncapable of explaining the events that take place.
Then why does the Amarr empire continue to take illegal slaves in Republic space yet the Republic fails to do anything about it?
The point that even the lowest ranking citizen of the state is middle class is an attempt to disseminate false information. A citizen is a productive member of the community. Yes even the lowest ranking citizen is middle class; however, there are people in the State who are non-productive and thus non-citizens who the State rightly leaves out to die.
Also who in lawless space exploits the riches there? The strong. They TAKE those resources and leave the weak to subsist on scraps and what little they can obtain in empire space.
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Lexiana Del'Amore
Gallente Equilibrium Society
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Posted - 2007.02.21 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vlad Cetes
Yes even the lowest ranking citizen is middle class; however, there are people in the State who are non-productive and thus non-citizens who the State rightly leaves out to die.
Ahum...
So if you so happen to find yourself injured during combat Mr Cetes, and where unable to whipe your own backside without the assistance of two sturdy built nurses in one of the States ulta efficiant hospitals, would you gladly accept that the state casts you aside like snotty tissue?
What of the elderly, the sick, the disabled, does your ruthless efficiancy leave no room for empathy?
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Lyzra
Amarr Peregrine Guidance Systems Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.21 04:46:00 -
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I am a simple amarrian captain, but I do find these talks about some odd focus on 'progression' futile. All societies are an amalgam of the loyality, strength and faith of they citizens. Such weak ideals that unfocused science, freedom or other rubbish do not last in the longrun.
The Amarr is eternal as you all barbarians should know, the societies wallowing in sin will just self destruct under the burden of sin, sooner or later. I weep for the Republic, once given a golden glimmer in the form of hope to be part of the Holy Empire and now rotting to the core.
I would also apologize for briefly observing an another thought.
A buffoon suggested the Empire sends slavers into Republics region, thats completely false. There are amarrian elements that are shall we say corrupted just as persons in any culture, low classed pilots that worship the sin of greed. Some of these elements try to land on poor planets, claiming to offer free ride for people to a better place, yet they end up being shipped for amarrian slave markets. I admit that this type of behaviour isnt supported by our society, but its neither forbidden either. The Empire doesnt pay or suggest pilots to do this sort of rubbish, its the foolish captains. It is different from the minimatar navy terrorists you see attacking amarrian systems and as my memory serves me right, carrying viral agents which cannot be bought on public markets. They are strictly a military resource and shows the Republic Navys support for the terrorists.
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Doc Extropy
Gallente Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.22 09:18:00 -
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Being a social - libertarian humanist myself, I'm against social darwinism.
It's like driving a ground vehicle without brakes. No one would go real fast with that. It's only the brakes that make the driver go fast.
NO to social darwinism. The Caldari / Amarr ways are inhuman.
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Able Citizen
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.22 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Able Citizen on 22/02/2007 15:37:35
Originally by: Vlad Cetes What is EVE? That is the question I am adressing today. EVE is about competition. Every phase of it exists to cull the weak from the strong.The Minmatar are enslaved becuase they were too weak to resist the Amarr and were thus taken captive. If they ever wish to truly claim there independence they must grow stronger than the Amarr. There republic is crumbling among unrest and violent factions fight both in Republic and Amarr space. Is this a strong government? One that cannot even control its own citizens? The Gallente treasure freedom and expression. Yes they have the freedom to leave worthy people in the street, people who could work and be profitable but who werent born to the right parents or didnt know the right people. The Amarr at least have some measure of strength. They keep their citizens in line, and have a stable government. Yet they took on too much and were defeated. The true sign of a man of great strength is restraint. The Caldari also have a measure of stability. The strongest wins. THose who are profitable will rise and those who cannot will die.
My brother,
Your statements reek of regressive doggerel, racism and prejudice. Our species has achieved the level of success we have because of forward thinking individuals - visionaries, if you will - and those unafraid of the next stage of evolution. Death is irrelevant for us; however, to ameliorate sufferring, we must embrace the technology that is within our grasp.
"The true sign of a man of great strength..."? I know of at least a few women who could likely free you from the confines of your pod once or twice . Please abandon your assumptions and embrace the future!
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Milera
Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2007.02.23 03:30:00 -
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You are on the correct path, Mr. Cetes, but you are not yet to the place where you can truly articulate the truth of New Eden. Since we have come to this world, whether it was by accident, or through the EVE Gate, we have been in a process of refinement. The struggles that we have gone through have made each group strong, and each group with their own advantages.
CONCORD is merely holding us back. Through the war that we all see coming, we will grow stronger than ever before. The weak will be taken up and crushed by the tides of battle, and the strong will rise above, to rule after the war is over. I do not say that it will be a final cataclysm, that afterwards there will be no more wars. If that is true, it would be the war to end us all, there would be nothing left and all of us would become weaker and weaker until we fade away into time.
Social Darwinism is dead; maybe. I'd rather think that it has grown into something more refined; simpler. Soon, not even CONCORD will be able to stop the coming war. The diplomatic measures will break down, and what will be left? We few pilots waging battles like immortal titans, caring not for those who crew our behemoths, for what are they? They will be replaced. They are simply cogs in the machine; we pod pilots are the ones who guide and steer the machines.
Please, feel free to EVEMail me sometime about my perspectives. I am always open to questions about my beliefs. ------------------------------------------------- War, the ultimate test of skill. The ultimate pleasure. The ultimate pain. My EVE blog: http://lifeneweden.blogspot.com/ |
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