Welcome! Head into your "help" menu (located through the Neocom: the vertical menu bar running from top-to-bottom of your screen). From there, you will see info on how to run some missions for the "career agents." Do all of them! These agents not only provide tutelage, but also supply skillbooks, ISK, ships, and even some implants.

On a side note I logged into the first character I ever created and was taken to character creation screen I spent ages refining her look...but when I created my fledgling alt I seemed to have less hairstyles available?

I don't expect to rule the universe...but I do expect to look cool while fumbling around :)

I count myself very fortunate to have joined while the tutorial still existed.

If I had arrived and been confronted with the 'opportunities' system I doubt I would have stayed more than a day. When I buy something I expect to be provided with some sort of instructions for its use.

The tutorial gave me no expectations of a linear progression of any sort - it was quite obvious that it was only teaching the barest basic necessities from which I would be expected to work out the finer details.

There was nothing wrong with the Tutorial other than it needed to be refined and updated.

Personally I think CCP just didn't want to update the Tutorial, same as the Evelopedia, so instead they just got rid of them.

In my opinion CCP should have refined and shortened the Tutorial and have it lead to the Career Agents, followed by a better version of the 'Opportunities' system. As it is right now it's not Newbie friendly and actually creates more confusion which is evident by this thread.

Wouldn't surprise me to know there's even less new players subscribing now due to it.


DMC

When CCP rolled out Opportunities they did it side by side with the old tutorial system. For a long while players that started new characters had a 50/50 chance of getting the old or new system. Trial accounts that went through the Opportunities system had a much higher retention rate than trial accounts that were subject to the old tutorial system.

Or so they say . . .

Many organisations operate on a similar system - my local Council's traffic department, for instance. They introduce a new traffic scheme for a "trial" period which eventually becomes permanent, no matter how much chaos and protest it produces.

Also, a few months ago they rearranged a major road junction (of the 'roundabout' type that shouldn't need traffic lights but has them nevertheless) which has always been a problem bottleneck. The traffic lights had to be switched off while the necessary work was in progress. Without the lights, even with the inconvenience of the roadworks, all the traffic jams and queues disappeared as if they had never existed. There was a huge public clamour for the lights to be removed completely, but the Council insisted that it was necessary to switch them back on when the work was completed. The result? Of course - all the traffic chaos and queues returned immediately. Agreed, the switch-off wasn't exactly a deliberate trial, but it did provide a means of comparison with readily observable results.

Bottom line - when an organisation says it has clear indications in favour of a particular course of action it's usually merely a means of justifying something they want to push through for their own undisclosed reasons.

In general I would agree with you on this. However you are comparing two totally different things. You are comparing a for-profit corporation to a governmental organization.

Out of curiosity I tried to google Eve online 2 ...nothing came back to me. I can only assume ccp's priority is fixed firmly with end game content

I don't understand this question. Mostly I don't understand what you were looking for when you googled eve online 2.

As far as end game content there is no such thing in this sandbox. End game content exists in linear, progression based MMOs.

In Eve the players are the content. CCP just gives us the sandbox to play with each other in. CCP is not the content creators.

My plan was reativate my account and create a new alt to "refresh" my memory via rookie chat. Unfortunately rookie chat is unavailable (can only guess rookie chat is only available to new accounts) even though many here don't like rookie chat I always enjoyed it back in 2009. As you said things sunk in when you heard the same questions and replies over and over again

Looking at Eves website I see details of epic battles, citadels costing billions of isk, corporate warfare etc if that's not endgame content I don't know what is.

Players may be the content but the sand has to come from somewhere. Ever try to build sandcastles with dry sand? Would be a bit messy like Eves new player experience.

New player here and i also had the end game question. Everybody says there isn't one but surely old players with lots of skill points can do lots of things that i cant right now. It's called progression. To see where they are and how they play after all these years sets the end game answer to new players. Ok i get it. It's a sandbox game. End game is conquer the universe. Any info about their end game epic battles or their stories can give new players goals to look for and careers to follow with specific skill leveling plans instead of " you can do anything you want" answers.

I can confirm that Rookie Chat is available to a new account for 30 days, then it goes away, and isn't made available to new alts that may be created after that. Makes sense I guess, as It's me that's the Rookie, not any particular alt.

The point I was trying make though, was that the endless repetition of very basic questions seems to suggest that the Rookie channel is doing a job that isn't being done elsewhere.

I've found that once I was past the first week or so I was pretty much able to manage on my own, using the other sources that have been mentioned here. It's just the early days that are difficult. I still remember plaintive cries like "OK I'm here, what do I do now?"

One of the best things I learned, and would pass on the the totally new player, is to purchase a single PLEX (around $20) which gives around 1B ISK when sold. This takes away all the initial grinding for ISK and allowed me to try things out in a more relaxed way. For example, I created an alt that I intend to use to make money, and the first thing I did was to develop mining up to "barge" level. The good thing was that once I had my Venture fitted and thoroughly tried out I didn't have to sit there watching it go round and round in order to get the ISK to fit the Retriever. The skills are another thing of course, It's much more expensive to buy injectors. 500,000 SP doesn't go anywhere as far as I thought it would!

I'd be interested in knowing how you found starting out in EVE. This is my 3rd outing with the game so had some rudimentary knowledge. I've found I have a lot skills now already available but not the isk available to buy the items, so I think that works against you by not letting you slowly digest things. Seems more useful to veterans creating acts with the finances to equip them.
I've been slowly working my way through the "starter"agent missions. I found the exploration mission with probes mind like wing and think I just bumbled my way to completing it

How's your journey going?