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Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.22 08:56:00 - [1] Hey all, just a sorta gripe ;p faction guns are pretty useless to most ppl and sell at pretty low rates ;p I think the real problem with this is that they are not that much better (a small one, and not one that has to do with officer guns ;p) and that they can't use t2 ammo. So does anyone else think its a good idea to allow them to use t2 ammo but still have the same skill requirments (a cool way for rich noobs to get in on t2 maybe? ;p) and also maybe boost their stats an extra 8-10% (kinda like giving them the t2 gun bonus without actually having to have the skill.... ;p though not really as crucial in my mind as the t2 ammo) So what do you all think? t2 charge groups allowed on faction and officer guns? yay or nay? ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Lori Carlyle LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2007.02.22 08:59:00 - [2] \Signed. Faction guns suck. ------------------------------------------
Atreides Ghanima Grumpy Old Men	Posted - 2007.02.22 09:38:00 - [3] Faction ammo for faction guns only. So you can't load faction ammo into T1 or T2 guns. But you can load T1 ammo into a faction gun. ----- The spice must flow!!!
Haffrage Less than Ideal	Posted - 2007.02.22 09:39:00 - [4] God, this is a tough issue. What about the fitting reqs? It would definitely drive the price of T2 down since everybody with isk will want to use the new standard T2 mods with higher damage mods and lower fitting reqs. Suddenly T2 becomes the poor man's faction in guns now as well, instead of just in everything else. -----
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.02.22 09:53:00 - [5] well... cosmos weapons usually have lower reqs (and/or irregular extras) so i'd say, that base is covered (although their lack of popularity surely has a reason). faction ammo just for faction weapons may give them a purpose - or pull faction ammo down with them (which i'm inclined to believe) personally i'd prefer the cosmos weapons, one step further
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.22 10:17:00 - [6] Some officer guns could need a boost. I don't really see the reason to fit a 1400mm officer artillery currently, except for the style. Before tech-2 ammo was out, I've sold 'Hakim's modified 1400mm Howitzer' for 450m isk. It's only the second best. Think a tech-2 gun with specialization skill at 4 already beats its dps with tech-1 ammo. Tech-2 ammo doesn't work, so I really wonder, if anyone still uses such guns, except people putting them on a faction BS that they never use in combat. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.22 10:41:00 - [7] officer-factional spawns should drop 10000 units of ammo add to this factions both empire ( navy guns and modules) and pirate factions agents should also drop Instead of inflationary ISK from missions bonuses including guns and ammo like they used to would be good place to start
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Haffrage God, this is a tough issue. What about the fitting reqs? It would definitely drive the price of T2 down since everybody with isk will want to use the new standard T2 mods with higher damage mods and lower fitting reqs. Suddenly T2 becomes the poor man's faction in guns now as well, instead of just in everything else. what would that do to help them? faction guns blow almost no one uses them! YES they are supposed to be preferred over t2 THEYRE FACTION, so why does everyone take t2 over them instead? ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Atreides Ghanima Faction ammo for faction guns only. So you can't load faction ammo into T1 or T2 guns. But you can load T1 ammo into a faction gun. uh.... yeah not that many ppl use faction ammo... ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:29:00 - [10] Originally by: hotgirl933 officer-factional spawns should drop 10000 units of ammo add to this factions both empire ( navy guns and modules) and pirate factions agents should also drop Instead of inflationary ISK from missions bonuses including guns and ammo like they used to would be good place to start faction ammo really isnt that good :\| theres also a huge lack of close range faction ammo ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal

Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:34:00 - [11] Edited by: Horza Otho on 22/02/2007 17:32:23 What about this idea? If faction guns, lets say a True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser, were to be fitted with a True Sansha Multifrequency L and get a handsome bonus you would see an increase in the use for these guns. Same for officer weapons, get a Hakim 1400 and loot some Hakim EMP L. I myself couldn't even start thinking on the bonuses you would get, but these are good ideas imo, and who could resist a Machariel with Hakim 1400's and Hakim EMPL? Edit: for spelling. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine uhhh, you sure? -Eris ofc i am pets voodoo eris doll
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Horza Otho Edited by: Horza Otho on 22/02/2007 17:32:23 What about this idea? If faction guns, lets say a True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser, were to be fitted with a True Sansha Multifrequency L and get a handsome bonus you would see an increase in the use for these guns. Same for officer weapons, get a Hakim 1400 and loot some Hakim EMP L. I myself couldn't even start thinking on the bonuses you would get, but these are good ideas imo, and who could resist a Machariel with Hakim 1400's and Hakim EMPL? Edit: for spelling. horza! ;p mmm maybe if u feel like it but i like keepin it simple ;p that would require lots of new items and coding to be addedd ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal


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