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Cool dude
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:06:00 -
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As a Battleship owner ( for which I worked months for) and a miner (and no I dont mine in 1.0 worlds or even 0.6 worlds) I think this patch sucks
There is a shortage of megacyte and zydrine that is really affecting peoples ability to build certain items. Now correct me if I am wrong but I see nothing in the patchnotes to say that the roid distribution bug is being fixed.
So the answer is go out 30 jumps and mine your own bistot..But wait what is CCP's answer. Lets nerf the MWDS for battleships and while we are at it lets put uber npc pirates in 0.0 space.
and while we are on the subject as a miner i spent many hours training my refine skills to 5/5 but now they imtroduce another 15 refining skills which I will have to train just to get me back to where i am now!
Who did i upset in CCP?
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:10:00 -
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And your point is what exactly ?
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:14:00 -
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My point is the title of this thread!
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Grindemyr
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:14:00 -
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I don't see why you guys defend CCP's incompetence. We are paying subscribers!! We demand uptime I take it none of you are Progressive customers
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Timber Wolf
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:19:00 -
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I feel your pain Cool Dude, So here is my spin on this patch. It's actually 17 new refining skills. One for each ore type, which is bogus in my book. CCP is again catering to the Mega Corps and the playerkilling pirates. Leaving the little guys to wallow in the muck trying to earn a living. Might as well get yourself some Vaseline and lube up, because we're all about to get screwed .....AGAIN!
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Darketh Nightspawn
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Darketh Nightspawn on 17/12/2003 01:21:19
I think it's a good idea... and I don't see no shortage of Mega.... Got stacks of the stuff.... adn Zyd.... what are you talking about? Are you upset that the nice shiny BS you got may get scratched now???? buy insurance.... take a friend.... hold hands... be nice to each other....
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Grindemyr
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:20:00 -
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Wait.....17 new refining skills?   
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BlackPlague
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:23:00 -
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Yah, not only are you screwed with 17 new refine skills... skills you already invested the time in... the "WE TAKE" is now taken out of the net.... not the unrecoverable.
Brillant!
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:23:00 -
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Quote: I think it's a good idea... and I don't see no shortage of Mega.... Got stacks of the stuff.... adn Zyd.... what are you talking about? Are you upset that the nice shiny BS yougot amy get scratched now???? buy insurance.... take a friend.... hold hands... be nice to each other....
Well then maybe you would like to sell me some of it at NPC price.
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Shroud III
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:23:00 -
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I agree. I have a Megathron which I worked my ass off for and now they are nerfing it. SUCK MUCH!
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:29:00 -
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Still waiting!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:37:00 -
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It will mean a whole lot less people mining that's for damn sure, I'm only getting the scrapmetal recycling skill, forget the rest, forget mining.
Convert Stations
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:24:00 -
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As it ever occurred to you freaks that maybe CCP doesn't CARE if magacyte costs 20K or even more per unit? Maybe they didn't intend for every moron in the game to be flying around in a friggin battleship!
Deal with it...sheesh!
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Kimpan
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:28:00 -
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what is so bad about new refining skills ? you will still have the same refine skill as you have now, But now you can also get even better at a certain ore that you want to be better on refine on that you mine the most isnt that good ? ---------------------------------------- http://equinox.homelinux.net/public/uplfolders/upload8/Logga_EVE.jpg |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:33:00 -
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omfg...wats so bad about battleships now? wasts so bad about mining? They did say ore will be redistributed in the CSM(not in patchnotes). You dont need battleships to mine, battleships are just that - "Battle Ships". This patch is to cut the solo gaming. Get in crews of 3-4 people, get 2 thoraxes mining, 2 battleships fighting off pirates...
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:34:00 -
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Dear god...
They didn't nerf battleships. You just need to buy a battleship-sized MWD. Please, do a *bit* of research before you go and post something like this. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

HostageTaker
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:38:00 -
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I believe with these new 17 refine skills, you will get MORE out of the ore you mine. So if you have 5/5, the new 17 skills add MORE to what you can already refine...
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 17/12/2003 03:40:06
Quote: They didn't nerf battleships. You just need to buy a battleship-sized MWD. Please, do a *bit* of research before you go and post something like this.
*shrug* That really wasn't his main point.
The fact that the DEVs have been yammering about "encouraging people to go to 0.0" for months, and the first major patch that goes in makes no mention of correct 'roid distribution problems AND adds tremendously difficult NPCs to existing 0.0 mining possibilities seems pretty silly to me. They just seriously cut down on the number of people/corporations who can survive in 0.0.
How is this encouraging us to go there? 
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Kimpan
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:40:00 -
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Exactly HostageTaker
Some people dosent seem to get that and starts complaning on how bad it is lol ---------------------------------------- http://equinox.homelinux.net/public/uplfolders/upload8/Logga_EVE.jpg |

Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cao Cao on 17/12/2003 03:49:17
Quote: I feel your pain Cool Dude, So here is my spin on this patch. It's actually 17 new refining skills. One for each ore type, which is bogus in my book. CCP is again catering to the Mega Corps and the playerkilling pirates. Leaving the little guys to wallow in the muck trying to earn a living. Might as well get yourself some Vaseline and lube up, because we're all about to get screwed .....AGAIN!
LOL. This is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard.
Incoherent lib #1: OMG, George W. Bush and the U.S. military just captured S@ddam Husse1n!
Incoherent lib #2: Yes, he is once again catering to the rich and to oil interests!
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:44:00 -
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Quote: They didn't nerf battleships. You just need to buy a battleship-sized MWD. Please, do a *bit* of research before you go and post something like this.
Hmm, so I just have to buy a more expensive module that has higher fitting requirements and greater penalties to accomplish less than I could before with the old way?
I see, you're right, that's not a nerf at all. 
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.17 03:45:00 -
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Quote: Yah, not only are you screwed with 17 new refine skills... skills you already invested the time in... the "WE TAKE" is now taken out of the net.... not the unrecoverable.
Brillant!
Ok ... how are YOU getting "screwed" by it? Are you the ONLY one who has to train these skills if you want more specialization in refining? NO. You will be gaining an added ADVANTAGE by training these skills over people who choose not to.
It is nothing but good.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:08:00 -
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Deep and long discussions have ensued between myself and Cool Dude regarding all the new stuff added in the patch. I have to agree on one point is that BS's have been given the short end of the stick. The reason I have completely different view of this patch is that I don't own a BS, not because I haven't had the chance just that I am enjoying my cruiser and don'y feel the need for one at the moment. The patch has just made it more viable to own other ships other than a Battleship with the MWD and AB nerf and the targeting change. As for the refining skills that have been added I have no interest in training for but other will so I will need them in my corp to refine the ore I mine, so they will be needed and are useful.
Maybe this is just me being overly positive about this new patch but I will make the most of it to enjoy the game as I have done for the last 6 months.
I thought player on here were adventurous, willing to accept change eager for something new and challenging, but it seems I am so so wrong!!   
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Aurelius Zarander
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:13:00 -
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Maybe CCP wants Megacyte prices to rise so ship prices will rise to prices which make more sense to me than 5-6 mil for a thorax and 50-100 mil for battleships..
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Ko3ak
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:15:00 -
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Nice patch!
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:16:00 -
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I woke this morning to find that Miso had been nerfed.
Forum whoring privelleges has been halved. I can only type posts at 10 words a minute and my off-topic allocation has been reduced by 80% I am also only allowed to reply to 4 threads a day, and am limited to starting just 1 thread of my own a day.
Damn it, I'm gonna have to start playing the game now.
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SolApathy
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:03:00 -
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In reply to an earlier poster who stated "battleships are just for that, battle" apparent;y has not been to 0.0 after the patch. You need at least 3 battleships to mine there now. In R3-K7K they spawn in groups of 20. Gee overkill? We are not talking 20k rats, either. We are talking 35k-85k rats with ehnough missle spam going that the goverment may try to ban it!
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Belzavior
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:22:00 -
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Omg people what is everyone complaining about? Yah mwd got nerfed, thats what happens to stuff in mmporgs that are way overpowered. Why should an MWD work just as well in a BS as in a Cruiser when a cruiser is many times smaller? And so what, everyone got an increase in warp speed so travel time is faster(especially with a mwd)
And so what NPCs got a big boost. Great! I was frankly bored chaining 50k rats on end in a BS because it was so easy to do. It is a MMPORG(massive multi-player online roleplaying game) Key words being multi-player, so now you have to team up to fight the baddies of the baddies. Great if you ask me, much more fun when its difficult and not boringly repetitive.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:55:00 -
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"I woke this morning to find that Miso had been nerfed.
Forum whoring privelleges has been halved. I can only type posts at 10 words a minute and my off-topic allocation has been reduced by 80% I am also only allowed to reply to 4 threads a day, and am limited to starting just 1 thread of my own a day."
... It's just to encourage people to post in teams in dangerous areas like the General section. Group whoring will allow you to reply to one more thread per gang member, and the gang leader's new Fast Talk skill is now applied to increase alllowed number of words per minute, by 5% per skill level.
Adapt and overcome. :s
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:59:00 -
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I'll need to get my "hi-jack thread" skill to lvl 5 I think - then I get a "ranting attack" bonus  -------------------------------------------- Dead
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