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Rogwar Toralen EVE University Ivy League 19	Posted - 2016.05.17 23:10:23 - [151] - Quote Doesn't the wardec system now mainly benefit docking ring or pipe campers where they have a large number of active decs? I guess it could also be used in a local conflict.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4266	Posted - 2016.05.17 23:59:29 - [152] - Quote Rogwar Toralen wrote: Doesn't the wardec system now mainly benefit docking ring or pipe campers where they have a large number of active decs? I guess it could also be used in a local conflict. It's not so much that those people benefit from it, rather that's the type gameplay that it is most conducive to and that that particular use of it has a snowballing effect. The short answer is that wars are both fairly expensive and quite dangerous for a small or inexperienced group to pursue as a sustainable source of content without a fairly significant income source. This is what leads to the whole big fat merc alliance thing. The loss of the watchlist just serves to make actually finding a small number of people or single individuals who have no particular need to be in a specific place extremely difficult while it doesn't affect trade hub camping in any way at all.
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4494	Posted - 2016.05.18 00:19:13 - [153] - Quote Posting because this is the only because this is might be the only fairly active and interesting thread in all of EVE forums. Bump But, on the other hand, it is the novice usually who gets the famous ace by doing at some moment the unexpected thing. -Eddie Rickenbacker
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5089	Posted - 2016.05.18 00:58:50 - [154] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: CCP, please bring the watchlist back. Screw capital pilots. Stalker begone. So no. Hell no. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Rogwar Toralen EVE University Ivy League 19	Posted - 2016.05.18 04:30:16 - [155] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Rogwar Toralen wrote: Doesn't the wardec system now mainly benefit docking ring or pipe campers where they have a large number of active decs? I guess it could also be used in a local conflict. It's not so much that those people benefit from it, rather that's the type gameplay that it is most conducive to and that that particular use of it has a snowballing effect. The short answer is that wars are both fairly expensive and quite dangerous for a small or inexperienced group to pursue as a sustainable source of content without a fairly significant income source. This is what leads to the whole big fat merc alliance thing. The loss of the watchlist just serves to make actually finding a small number of people or single individuals who have no particular need to be in a specific place extremely difficult while it doesn't affect trade hub camping in any way at all. Thanks for the answer. It helps me to better understand the eve environment in order to be able to explain it to really new players.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 70	Posted - 2016.05.18 06:41:20 - [156] - Quote Kaelhula Waki wrote: News from the front ! The ennemy succeded in destroying an dreadful Orca when he was picking up the last modules of the PoS. What a thrilling fight it was !... Irony apart I thought i would come back next year to see if but now i'm not so sure now. Wardec are fine. Soz Pandora if i'm a bit bitter and not that positive. You can quit or you and let them win or you beat them. 1. switch corp. Switch to an NPC corp for the wardecc. Go out and wave at them, they can kill you but they will loose their ships too: not likely. They will just waste their money. Or make a new corp and switch to another when they decc the new one. They will realize that they are just spending money but will get nothing out of it. Taunt them when they can't harm you. 2. go where they don't want to go. Go to Null or low: There are miner renter corps and not just PVP corps. There you have organized resistance that can easily match wardeccers, cause there they loose all their advantages. CCP trys to be fair but Eve isn't build around "fair". A scam that will get you kicked out of any other game is legal in EVE. There is more then just high sec and war deccs. At least try it before you leave. A wardecc in null or low is a joke and more of a statement then a real threat.
Deadmeat Zukalick Republic University Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.05.19 02:25:43 - [157] - Quote Blue Macaw wrote: Also ... logistics... Tell me exactly how a corp of newbs is supposed to fight back when the only place where they can buy the things they need to fight back is camped - PushX? The rush prices may appear low to us vets, but 30m is a LOT to a newbie, even 10M would be for a batch of frigs... I assume that by newbie corp you mean a corp own and staffed by only newbies. If such a corp gets wardecced and can't handle it Is their own fault. If you dive off a cliff without checking and injure yourself, you don't get to blame the rocks afterward. Behold the horror that is my sense of humour
Trace Kel'le Royal Industrial Co. Silent Requiem 0	Posted - 2016.05.19 14:10:00 - [158] - Quote Prof Dr Haxxx wrote: Are your alts in Marmite bro? How about addressing them and the dozens of other corps with 300+ active wardecs that just sit off stations in highsec? The 'leet' pvpers who don't dare spend half a second in low, much less nullsec to find a real fight. just wardeccing indy/freight corps for easy kills. If you don't see a need for a limit then you have done about 10% of the 'research' needed. a limit of 50 wardecs would be considered a massive nerf compared to groups like Marmite. And that is way too many. Wardecs have no purpose other than a license to be a dck. They should have real purpose and real meaning otherwise just remove them and take CONCORD away. Oh its worse than that. When I was in a corp not in alliance we were wardecced mainly for extortion purposes. I almost understand corps like Astara who basically create 10 shell corps and then anytime they are wardecced just rotate making the wardec useless. The LLC sounds like a great idea.
Zathra Narazi Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 20	Posted - 2016.05.19 17:44:12 - [159] - Quote War decs aren't destructive. The need for them is. High sec is Eve's Trammel and should be killed with fire.


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