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Posted - 2016.05.24 09:58:55 -
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Rich or not, Noobmans post still hold water..
Even with 2-3 mediums you get a lot more protection than 20 Large towers could give you.
I don't think I know of any group who want to keep hole control for a week straight, so spread out those vuln. windows, move your assets if reinforced etc.
Imo.. Citadels are way too secure.
Imo. Remove the vulnerability window and make them vulnerable 24/7 like POSes are.
Let the defenders choose the time of day it come out of reinforce, but make it so the attackers can choose to reinforce the entire system the same day.(like today) |
ExookiZ
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Posted - 2016.05.24 12:11:32 -
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I think you vastly overestimate most nullsec groups ability to properly mount any WH offensive. I can say with some certainty, because I researched this for the Fanfest presentation, nullsec has NEVER evicted even a mid size corp from a wormhole. The closest I could find was test bringing 200 people to try and evict a 40ish man corp. Test lost.
Is there some truth to your concern that the loot fairy will make people more likely to burn down citadels knowing theyre juicy loot pinatas? Maybe, but i doubt its much more than obvious POS pinatas.
Something I think you are failing to take into account is how easy it is to evac a citadel. Rapecaging a citadel is almost impossible, and between the citadels ability to blap bubbles/ hictors, and the massive tether range stopping people from flying back and forth between citadels is extremely difficult.
As noobman pointed out, some redundancies in your defense plan makes it a lot more effort to burn multiple citadels down than POSes. In a POS when it gets RFed all your hangars lock up, guaranteeing that loot may drop. Not so in a citadel, the only thing that you cant do is outright trash all your stuff once its in armor. ( Null confirmed on TF thats supposed to be working).
Additionally, you can spread out your citadel timers, significantly increasing the amount of time attackers need to invest to burn your entire system down. With 7 mediums you can make sure each is only vulnerable 1 day a week, forcing attackers to have to spend an entire week ( and maybe a whole week of hole control) to burn you out. As pointed out several times, structure bashing isnt fun, and I cant see anyone spending that kind of time investment for anything but a grudge.
I cant speak for everyone, but im not going to spend my corp's entire week to get your medium citadel's worth of loot when you can just keep moving the stash to a new citadel. I dont really care how much it is, thats just not fun.
Now, if you cant figure out how to try and mount a defense vs invaders, than nothing has really changed anyways, but from the perspective of a defender, citadels give you a lot more options, and time to plan.
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