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MoorePhy
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:41:00 -
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Before the patch, I had my mining ships set up with pure mining lasers plus lots of CPU boosters.
In the case with my thorax, it is 5x Miner IIs plus 5x Co-processors. But now after patch I've found that if I keep on firing 5x mining lasers, then my capacitor will go down in a matter of few minutes.
In other words, I can no longer be firing my mining lasers all day long. What's your suggestions or how do you set up your mining ship after patch?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:43:00 -
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do mining lasers need cap? Glad I never mine 
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:53:00 -
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Handy, I need exact the same info.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:54:00 -
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Well, you need stuff that gives you a higher capacitor recharge rate.
Train the Electronics skill to try and free up some of them low slots, and put capacitor relays in any that you do.
Train the Energy Systems Operation skill to get a higher recharge rate, and train the Energy Management skill to get more capacitor storage.
Maybe you can free up a mid slot for a good capacitor recharger.
If you've got high skills already... try 4 mining lasers to reduce the CPU requirements and fill any free low slots with capacitor relays  .
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:58:00 -
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Well, you need stuff that gives you a higher capacitor recharge rate.
Train the Electronics skill to try and free up some of them low slots, and put capacitor relays in any that you do.
Train the Energy Systems Operation skill to get a higher recharge rate, and train the Energy Management skill to get more capacitor storage.
Maybe you can free up a mid slot for a good capacitor recharger.
If you've got high skills already... try 4 mining lasers to reduce the CPU requirements and fill any free low slots with capacitor relays .
Thanks a whole lot :)
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2003.12.17 13:03:00 -
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Oh and keep an eye open for the juicier rats now 
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Nessa Vorax
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Posted - 2003.12.17 13:15:00 -
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yes miners have cap now
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Cremytos
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Posted - 2003.12.17 13:16:00 -
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This is REALLY unfare. Wasnt CCP supposed to nerf BS-mining. And there I agreed with them and didnt argue. But nerfing Cruiser-mining that is really INSANE!
BUT.... I really love Castor anyway. My Rifter now does 2300m/s with only 1 Afterburner!
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.17 13:20:00 -
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That's a cruiser AB, though, right? Getting similar speeds with a stabber and a BS AB.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.12.17 16:50:00 -
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I can't imagine anyone is mining right now. Where will mins come from for all the BSes we'll lose to more PvP and crazy powerful NPCs?
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Eltigre
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Posted - 2003.12.17 17:03:00 -
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Before the patch, I had my mining ships set up with pure mining lasers plus lots of CPU boosters.
In the case with my thorax, it is 5x Miner IIs plus 5x Co-processors. But now after patch I've found that if I keep on firing 5x mining lasers, then my capacitor will go down in a matter of few minutes.
In other words, I can no longer be firing my mining lasers all day long. What's your suggestions or how do you set up your mining ship after patch?
You need some skills cuz I can mine with my Thorax with no cap drain issues - I use 3x Miner II's and 2x Cu Vapour's - works great !
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Iron Pimp
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Posted - 2003.12.17 18:06:00 -
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Engineering 5, Electronics 5, Whichever skills affects cap recharge rate 4, Thorax, 2 Basic Co-Processors, 3 Cargo Expanders, 1 Rock Scanner, 5 Miner-II's...
Went out mining for an hour with the setup above last night, had no issues. Yes, mining lasers now take cap to activate, which makes perfect sense to me, but I wasn't running out of power, it kept on recharging to about 50% every minute. Train the appropriate skills m8, they will save your behind in a lot of situations... |
Stan Kidd
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:03:00 -
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I have electronics and engineering at lvl 4 and I lasted about 5 minutes with 5 x miner 2's on a Thorax.
Sorry but I think that's a bit of a joke. There's no need whatsoever to nerf mining that hard.
Already cancelled. If it gets fixed I'll re-subscribe, if not I'll find something fun to do.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:15:00 -
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90 energy every 60 seconds.
Same as 9 energy every 6 seconds.
Gee, that's a whole lot less than railguns, you should be able to... "fix" that.
The point is though, that you're not supposed to run 5 of the best mining lasers, they want to slow us down you know.
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Stan Kidd
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:29:00 -
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Where does it say I can't run 5 of the best mining lasers? And Miner 2's are the best??
I pay to have fun, not to sit in space watching my cap recharge.
God, imagine how bad it must be for a new player in an Ibis. I shudder to think about that one.
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Blink
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:35:00 -
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This is REALLY unfare. Wasnt CCP supposed to nerf BS-mining. And there I agreed with them and didnt argue. But nerfing Cruiser-mining that is really INSANE!
Isn't it ironic. Now bs really rule at mining. Maybe now we can start talking about industrial slots.
You'll have to balance the consumption of cap vs regeneration, something that may be new to miners but second nature to most pirate farmers.
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:53:00 -
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Battleship mining will be managed in another way soon(TM)
In the dev blog or CSM Hellmar mentioned that ships are going to be given heat sinks and a heat value for each item used.
Building up too much heat will wear and tear items.
Heat will dissapates over time. The larger the ship, the slower the dissapation. Hence running 8 x Miner IIs on a Battleship might cause more wear and tear than 5 Miner II's on a Thorax.
Just a guess.
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Deep Spacer
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Posted - 2003.12.18 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Deep Spacer on 18/12/2003 02:51:09
ive got an armageddon for mining. since my lil afterburners dont do a thing to move that rig, and i heard about the big capaciter problem, i just swapped out the ab's for a few cap boosting devices (dont know the names, just garbage i looted from lil rats) and my cap holds at 60% with all 7 miners going. same should hold for most other mining ships (apoc may have some issues with the 8 miners thing). i dunno if anyone else said something similar, but im to lazy look. 
*edit mode* and why the heck is the dev team trying to nerf BS's!! Im astounded that its perfectly fine to use the most technically advanced gallente cruiser for mining, while a few hundred year old amarr battleship (most likely retired and sold off to a mining company) can't go ripping up the fields. does this make any sense from a roleplaying standpoint. also from a money making standpoint (CCP) if bs mining gets nerfed, i bet u get alot of angry crybabies that quit (i wont, but still i wont be happy ) how bout u guys stop wailing on this game with the nerf bat and break out the bug spray for a change 
wow.....i seem to have strayed from the topic
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Maximum Panic
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Posted - 2003.12.18 05:58:00 -
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You should only be able to mine afk with an indy. That would be better!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 08:17:00 -
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That's a cruiser AB, though, right? Getting similar speeds with a stabber and a BS AB.
FEEL THE SPEED AND CAP DRAIN
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Siddy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 08:24:00 -
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I have electronics and engineering at lvl 4 and I lasted about 5 minutes with 5 x miner 2's on a Thorax.
Sorry but I think that's a bit of a joke. There's no need whatsoever to nerf mining that hard.
Already cancelled. If it gets fixed I'll re-subscribe, if not I'll find something fun to do.
Whiner.... i got no problem in this patch what so ewer.... plain layzy Cearbear i say.. and whiner
My Stabber can Mine whit all miniglasers active and 2 Shield boosers on (so i dont worry abaut raTs) indefinetly........ Stop whinig people
This Patch bring variaty and it is much more funn to find new optimal sets than use old ones
atleast the game isint boring.....
It is - thoug - Lots harder now
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Stan Kidd
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Posted - 2003.12.18 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Stan Kidd on 18/12/2003 09:43:45
Actually I'm not a carebear. I live out in Stain as part of SA so I can hardly be called a 1.0 afk mining carebear.
Having said that I don't see this as being fun right now and that's what I pay for. I think it's perfectly reasonable to cancel my sub if I think the game isn't fun any more. I reserve my right to voice my opinion and if you think that's whining then maybe you need to reconsider. It's called freedom of speech.
Your opinion may differ but that's not grounds to insult people.
Have a nice day.
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Malnork
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Posted - 2003.12.18 11:01:00 -
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I mine with 4 miner 2's on my vexor in high slots, 2 CUP's & 2 cargo expanders in low slots...
I did a good hour last night and although my cap was low it never ran out...
Don't see what the problem is?
I'd hate it if everything was too easy anyway!
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DarK
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Posted - 2003.12.18 11:52:00 -
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I hope controlled burst skill affects it in that case:D
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Stan Kidd
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:13:00 -
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Hopefully training Energy System Operations anther couple of levels for some extra cap recharge will fix things.
Fingers crossed.
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:32:00 -
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I mine in a megatron and i am running 7 miner II's and the cap drain is not to bad, It tends to settle around the 60-70 % mark and stay their
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:53:00 -
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It would appear that ccp has made the miner 2 a BS mining laser. NOW no more crap from people who don't think BS's should be used as miners. With the new energy activation cost on the miner 2's a BS is about the only thing that can really use them in numbers.
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Mamarto
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Posted - 2003.12.18 19:01:00 -
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A Thorax can use miner IIs without running out of cap, at least mine can.
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2003.12.19 01:54:00 -
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I use my armageddon and NEVER EVER drop below 80% even if using med shield booster (those npcs are annoying).
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.19 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 19/12/2003 04:42:19
... I think you guys should take close look at the good ol' mining frigates:
Probe, Bantam, Navitas, Tormentor:
"-60% mining laser capacitor use"
guess that is how CCP intended to resolve problem with high class ships mass-mining... pretty inteligent, i must say. :s
(obviously didn't take into account people's fitting "skills" though...)
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