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Sparkus Volundar
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:12:00 -
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Kmelx wrote:On TOF and their alleged non piracy, they don't just shoot their own reds, they're not averse to shooting anything they think will give them a shiney kill, which is one reason among many that COA has issues with them.
This is unfortunately the main reason for me, personally. I and others in the COA understand OF like to hunt pirates but it's a shame that commendable desire can't be tempered with a willingness to pull back from a juicy neutral gang when pirate activity is low. Maybe those days are behind OF but it's the contemporary perception that many in the COA has of the OF.
I don't expect OF to change their RoE just because others don't agree with them but the COA naturally take the RoE of others in Empire space into consideration when setting standings. That said, I'm pretty sure Conrad and yourself know I'd be the first to welcome such a change and that I would start bending Del's ear accordingly. Del might prefer no change to that, of course 
Regards, Sparks
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Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
12
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Posted - 2012.01.05 04:03:00 -
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Ynot Eyob wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote: Point number three, OF may not have a load of -10 sec status members, but they do actively pirate when in low sec.
Can you say none, and only fairly few with even a negative sec. But you are right we do kill people in low sec for our resons, mabe because we have marked their corp or alliance as pirates, or because they have been marked KOS due some null sec issues. There were stated, we were on a draw back... No we are not, Star Fraction handles otou just fine leaving us to others areas to handle, as an example you would have seen our 60 man fleet passing Amo last night, and most likely again tonight. Why so big numbers.. Well some have marked us as pirates and will ruin their security status to ganking us. Negative Ten.. Havnt changes a bit the past 6 months, and yes they bring out their carriers now and again regardless if its a frigate or a BS. Is it COA who have done what ever work, i doubt, we have been hitting Neg Ten many nights, and use brigde blobing in Rancer, no wounder if they dubble check whats incomming. Space Police.. Use to be up for a good fight, but have for some reson started to use PL as blob in.. I lost respect for that. I belive they are growing atm, last iv checked some well known people joined them, but they do tend to stay in Hagilur and fight EVE Uni in dudreda for the fun of it.. Where are COA here? Nothing have changed.. Mean Corp.. Again a know pirate corp in Gus.. COAs work, i doubt, we roam trough those system every week, last i past i got a comment in local from Commander that they didnt wana fight us as we were to organized. Gun Diplomacy.. Last i checked i saw 6 Macharials as normal in and around Bosena. Could we catch them, no.. Did COA catch them.. I havnt see the kills..Rifter Rebel.. Still good for a fight, but they do know how to mark down who the "Blobers" are, and i belive for all become hard to get a good fight with. COAs work, i doubt you are just marked as blobers as everyone else in bigger fleets.. Regarding everything in and around Otou, i have no doubt it has to do with our good friends Star Fraction and their good work for free space for all, open stations and 0 low tax rates
the goggles are really only here to help when we're piloting at MACH~~ speeds~ |

xxxAlloxxx
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.01.05 04:43:00 -
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1.) cba to qoute it atm but someone said "Gunpoint brought the hammer", Thank you sir 
2.) @ynot - we actualy havent used the machs in a while. Maybe peek at our killboard some time ^.^
3.) Butts Butts Butts Butts Butts First pvp video: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=214829&#post214829 Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-unXaPnyw |

Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
26
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Posted - 2012.01.05 09:28:00 -
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Onictus wrote: You guys were fun to shoot at, though I never understood your reliance on frigates.
We enjoy flying them! Do you need any other reason? :-)
Remember this is lowsec we don't have space to 'defend' with a couple of instant undock bookmarks, and bar ultra fast locking gatecamps frigates can pretty much pick an choose their engagements and nobody is going to 'evict you from a station'.
We're also 'solo-centric' we're not like Gunpoint, Shadow Cartel or Hatchery a corp that does pirate gangs a lot. If you jump a battlecruiser solo into a proper lowsec camp chances are you're gonna loose it, or at least aren't going to travel that way until the camp clears off. In a frigate you just ignore the camp an carry on with your day ;-) |

Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
11
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Posted - 2012.01.05 11:44:00 -
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Ynot Eyob wrote: . Well some have marked us as pirates and will ruin their security status to ganking us.
Well, i didnt say OF are pirates, but you guys certainly sacrifice sec status for a nuetral kill :) Maybe not a policy of piracy but acts of piracy make me wonder why OF sits on the fence. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |

Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
27
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:08:00 -
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Ynot Eyob wrote: Rifter Rebel.. Still good for a fight, but they do know how to mark down who the "Blobers" are, and i belive for all become hard to get a good fight with. COAs work, i doubt you are just marked as blobers as everyone else in bigger fleets..
Well you see that's it >=85% of the time a 'bigger fleet' constitutes any number higher then 1.
We do small gangs on occasion, but even then the biggest we've ever had was 13 Rifters and this happened exactly once. And then it was you know Rifters (the 10 that survived long enough that time all died to the E-UNI fleet I mentioned earlier).
And 2-3 is the norm at other times (the remaining 15% or so when we're not just solo) unless one of us organized something. And quite often our pilots will happily engage solo vs 2 or 3 (have a look a t Miura Bull's, Saftsuze's or Ilik Tanikalot's boards if you want to see examples 
Solo you'll get a fight out of our guys pretty much always unless you 're notorious for flying some ++berfaggotry fit or for breaking 1vs1's. And if you're not sure if one of our guys is solo ask for a 1vs1 in local if you get a no or it goes unanswered well then he/she isn't alone :P |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:46:00 -
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Titus Veridius: 169 Ships killed (27.51B ISK)17 Ships lost (1.61B ISK) 94.48% Efficiency (ISK) Coalition of Anti-Pirates: 241 Ships killed (28.07B ISK) 119 Ships lost (12.53B ISK) 69.15% Efficiency (ISK) Gunpoint Diplomacy: 842 Ships killed (92.94B ISK) 229 Ships lost (21.72B ISK) 81.06% Efficiency (ISK)
http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11816603 http://ransm.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11816603
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k77/JohnGalt_/joke.jpg |

Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
6
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:46:00 -
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Titus, that is indeed an impressive number of non-combat kills you are racking up. But please, put your auto cannon back where it belongs.
Cheers |

ale rico
Nephite Tribe Zero Hour Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:52:00 -
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http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9126
just one of the many times OF and ynot have gcc'ed on COA. They even dropped 3 carriers that day. |

Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
12
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:04:00 -
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Delilah Wild wrote:Titus, that is indeed an impressive number of non-combat kills you are racking up. But please, put your auto cannon back where it belongs.
Cheers
yeah titus. you gutless prick. destroying 92b isk worth of "non-combat" ships
... what the **** does that even mean? is deliilah wild a neonxgreen alt? will titus ever admit his true love of blasters? can the genos spies overcome their differences to put an end to this madness in time to save christmas?
~STAY TUNED~ |
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Kmelx
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
15
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:39:00 -
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Top link: From the COA kill board for the same engagement for the top one you linked showing COA losses and kills in that fight:
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650
The majority of the people you killed on your board weren't in COA, nor were they in our fleet or on our coms, COA was not responsible for their fleet composition, or their tactical decision to warp their entire fleet to zero on your fleet, nor were we responsible for their fits or the fact that they pretty much all died. Their FC made a spur of the moment call and it was a bad one, their fleet paid the price for it.
You guys might have kicked their asses, but you inflicted minimal damage on the COA forces on the field and we inflicted heavy damage on your fleet, held the field and looted your wrecks.
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board.
Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!
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ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
5
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:43:00 -
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This is quite literally the worst thread on EvEO forums right now, and I just read a thread about the mathematics of inserting an XL AM charge into ones anus. It's literally that bad. |

Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
28
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:48:00 -
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ale rico wrote:http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9126
just one of the many times OF and ynot have gcc'ed on COA. They even dropped 3 carriers that day.
Or was it COA going GCC on OF?!?
Was it a COA Maelstrom engaging conrad on station, just to bring a carrier our to rep him up.
Now would we would bring carriers to support our own, ofcause we just had to go run a few jump to pick them up first.. We failed that night though no doubt, but we didnt go GCC, COA did. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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ale rico
Nephite Tribe Zero Hour Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:58:00 -
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Ynot Eyob wrote:ale rico wrote:http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9126
just one of the many times OF and ynot have gcc'ed on COA. They even dropped 3 carriers that day. Or was it COA going GCC on OF?!? Was it a COA Maelstrom engaging conrad on station, just to bring a carrier our to rep him up. Now would we would bring carriers to support our own, ofcause we just had to go run a few jump to pick them up first.. We failed that night though no doubt, but we didnt go GCC, COA did.
You all went GCC on me. A rupture managed to escape, then you came again with a Dominix and the three carriers.
Edit: why would the sentries be firing at you I wonder?? http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9126 |

Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
28
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:31:00 -
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Malestrom went GCC on us at station.
Your Chimira undocked and repped up the maelstrom both going GCC
We came in late and opened fire just as you GCC disapeared
You undocked your own carrier to begin with, we desided to bring ours in, unfortunally cyno alt got black screen at undock so mission failed badly.
Your comment on kills doesnt add up egihter as i see no dominix lose, nore do i see your lose....
And as you see on the first kill you were GCC to begin with:
http://www.obsidianfront.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4068
So stop the nonsens. (Oh btw you forgot to post that API validated lose on your KB)
If you wana start posting kill who have sentries on and who havnt i can keep going
http://www.obsidianfront.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4737
Not to forget the ammount of ganked hulks and macks in high sec..
But i wont, makes no point. If your in a fight you pick the target making the biggest treath, regardless if you have to go GCC or not.
That said, you are as marked as we are to you while this is going on, so sentries or not your as valid target for us, as we are to you.
This is going to be my last comment on this tread as it leads nowere. Seems to me it all about pointing fingers stating you did wrong. I dont support COA the way its ran now, we did in the past. All this comes down to two episodes. First where we helpped some friends with RR in high sec against EM, not known who we were up against, and 2nd, an excuse that we helpped defend a "pirate" POS in low sec, though we funny enough lose a dread in the attemt to take it down. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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ale rico
Nephite Tribe Zero Hour Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:48:00 -
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Thats cause the Domi didnt die, we deagressed and docked when the carriers showed up. If you had bothered to check the first link I posted you would have seen the drake loss was there.
As for the fight, I remember well, you came to Auner baiting us with a gang, you managed to get the drake to GCC you at first. Then one of yours went GCC in a rupture, and soon the rest followed, we fired back and killed 2 of you. You engaged at a station, undocking a carrier to rep 2 of us vs the 5 or 6 of you that were there is not such a bad idea.
I don't get the point of your second link, it just shows that you continue to bait COA members.
Edit: I'm not a diplomat so anything I say represents my opinion, and I only speak from my personal experiences against OF. |

Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
28
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:53:00 -
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Its not my fault you cant resist to engage.
EVE Uni never engage if you are sitting with them on a gate...
And you didnt see us engaging you on the gate, as "pirates" tend to do..
You have become your own enemy  Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2012.01.05 23:27:00 -
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Delilah Wild wrote:Titus, that is indeed an impressive number of non-combat kills you are racking up. But please, put your auto cannon back where it belongs.
Cheers
December 2011 Mining Barges/Exhumers Industrials Total Kills Titus Veridius 24 2 169 Gunpoint Diplo 57 19 842
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Firebolt145
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:08:00 -
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Kmelx wrote:http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board.
Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!
Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.
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Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:10:00 -
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Kmelx wrote:Top link: From the COA kill board for the same engagement for the top one you linked showing COA losses and kills in that fight: http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650The majority of the people you killed on your board weren't in COA, nor were they in our fleet or on our coms, COA was not responsible for their fleet composition, or their tactical decision to warp their entire fleet to zero on your fleet, nor were we responsible for their fits or the fact that they pretty much all died. Their FC made a spur of the moment call and it was a bad one, their fleet paid the price for it. You guys might have kicked their asses, but you inflicted minimal damage on the COA forces on the field and we inflicted heavy damage on your fleet, held the field and looted your wrecks. http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board. Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!
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Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:56:00 -
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If you wish to wave around such a small auto cannon, then be my guest.
Cheers. |

Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
336
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Posted - 2012.01.06 01:04:00 -
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Firebolt145 wrote:Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.  Not only that, but their killboard is terribly inaccurate. Checking my corp on their board vs ours, it seems they have nearly all our losses to them, but only around 30% of our kills against them.  What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2012.01.06 02:36:00 -
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Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
12
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Posted - 2012.01.06 02:38:00 -
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Kmelx wrote:Top link: From the COA kill board for the same engagement for the top one you linked showing COA losses and kills in that fight: http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650The majority of the people you killed on your board weren't in COA, nor were they in our fleet or on our coms, COA was not responsible for their fleet composition, or their tactical decision to warp their entire fleet to zero on your fleet, nor were we responsible for their fits or the fact that they pretty much all died. Their FC made a spur of the moment call and it was a bad one, their fleet paid the price for it. You guys might have kicked their asses, but you inflicted minimal damage on the COA forces on the field and we inflicted heavy damage on your fleet, held the field and looted your wrecks. http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=21 - COA's stats against Gunboat Diplomacy from our board. Anyway enough of this killboard epeenery - moar pointless and confusing smack, about buttes if possible!!
so you can just pick and choose what anti-pirate alliances and corps are included in operations? i, too, selectively choose to remove embarrassing lossmails from my killboa... OH WAIT no i don't
this isn't epeen. quit being a ******
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
832
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Posted - 2012.01.06 05:12:00 -
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OP success, Pirates have their knickers in a twist while us anti-pirates remain dignified and balanced in judgement.
:))))))))
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |

Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
11
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Posted - 2012.01.06 08:56:00 -
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It's easy to get kills and "good" efficiency when you sit your arse on a gate most of your time killing newbs. Any fail pilot can achieve that. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |

Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
11
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Posted - 2012.01.06 09:02:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:Firebolt145 wrote:Unless I'm reading this incredibly wrong, you DO realise that the 64% efficiency figure that is on that link is Gunpoint's efficiency against you guys? In other words, they are winning.  Not only that, but their killboard is terribly inaccurate. Checking my corp on their board vs ours, it seems they have nearly all our losses to them, but only around 30% of our kills against them. 
Funny that heh Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |

Kmelx
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
15
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:12:00 -
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Titus Veridius wrote:Don't troll me bro. The distinction between C.O.A and blues that they conduct anti-pie ops with in joint fleets is so insignificant to me that I can't describe it to you with the limited capabilities of human language and homo sapien vocal structure.
From what I can recollect those guys had no standings with COA at all at the beginning of that op, they certainly weren't blue to me, I've already pointed out that it was anything but a joint op, if it was they would have been in our fleet and on our coms, the co-ordination between both fleets was minimal.
I note that you that you don't care so much that you felt the need to take the time to point out how little you care 
Quite apart from that, I wasn't describing the posts from your killboard or the posts from the COA board as smack, believe it or not I actually have a fair amount of respect for your corp and its combat abilities, I was pointing out that I was bored with KB related bullshit and wanted some more smack talk.
In reply to the comment about selectively picking and choosing embarrassing loss mails - lol - as far as I know the board updates automatically via API with the kills and losses of most of the COA member corps and alliances, if they aren't in COA then other peoples losses or their kills aren't on our board - there is no reason they should be on our board either, its not meant to be evekill or battleclinic, its meant to show the COA's combat kills and losses.
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Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
337
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:31:00 -
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Kmelx wrote: In reply to the comment about selectively picking and choosing embarrassing loss mails - lol - as far as I know the board updates automatically via API with the kills and losses of most of the COA member corps and alliances, if they aren't in COA then other peoples losses or their kills aren't on our board - there is no reason they should be on our board either, its not meant to be evekill or battleclinic, its meant to show the COA's combat kills and losses.
My corp on your killboard:
http://killboard.coalitionofantipirates.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_ext_id=569751089&view=kills
Just 24 kills to 21 losses. A selection of COA members from our killboard:
http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=58 Electus Matari, 65 losses http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=161 Namtz, 34 losses http://lowmoralfibre.co.uk/kb/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=400 HELM, 14 losses
And it's not like you can say you are just using recent ones, because there are EM losses to us from 2008 in there. What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |

Wensley
Matari Exodus
46
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:35:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Losers whine about blobbing, winners go home and blob the prom queen.
Yes, I'm late to the party. |
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