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Schtell DeMar UICON Trading 0	Posted - 2016.06.05 14:13:38 - [1] - Quote Just getting in to an indy career all my HS reprocessing skills are at 5 refining 5 refining eff 5 so here's the question WHY THE HELL IS THE WASTE STILL SO HIGH !!!???? i wouldn't object but you have to pay to refine your ore in to minerals anyway 40+ % of what you've mined turns in to waste i'd understand 20% though mechanical waste (crap machining work etc.... that's realistic) but 40+ is steep any insight in to why it's so high would be handy if you can thanks in advance Schtell
W33b3l Conquest and Kittens 104	Posted - 2016.06.05 14:40:11 - [2] - Quote Is scrap metal processing at 5 also? And how is your standing with the station you are doing the processing in? They did revamp mod reprocessing a ways back and changed some things. I remember people being upset at the time before realizing how to adust for it, or how it was adjusted. So that might have something to do with the numbers looking worse then they should.
Scarlett LaBlanc Midnight Savran Industries 125	Posted - 2016.06.05 15:11:27 - [3] - Quote The idea is to move more industry into null sec. Base refining efficiency in high sec is 50% (some stations are much worse, you have to look!) In a POS you get 52% In Low sec you get 54% Some null sec outposts get much more, in the 60's I seem to recall... Your skills then add to this. The two you mentioned, refining and refining efficiency AND the ore specific skill (i.e. Omber processing). For example: I get a 72% yield in a high sec pos, close to 80% in low sec. Those numbers are with perfect skills
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM 6005	Posted - 2016.06.05 18:03:45 - [4] - Quote High waste, is to give wiggle room to ccp to change things, without needing to go and rebase _everything_ Woo! CSM XI! Fuzzwork Enterprises Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 1684	Posted - 2016.06.06 09:55:05 - [5] - Quote What used to happen is that CCP would change ship production cost so people would get wind of this and make a ton of those ships then reprocess them and make instant billions. So CCP added additional costs to get around this which was annoying as hell because you had to check two figures for the same minerals. So they decided to remove that and in doing so set the refine rate very low. A lot of people who used to refine rat drops to build stuff as part of their activity were royally screwed by this. COHE, the Coalition of Hisec Entities is now in operation, time to make hisec work for people who operate there.
Gwenaelle de Ardevon Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2654	Posted - 2016.06.06 10:18:26 - [6] - Quote Do you also have the different Ore Reprocessing Skills at 5? If you are in HS, try to find an open citadel with reprocessing. You will probably get a better %. «An hour sitting with a pretty girl on a park bench passes like a minute, but a minute sitting on a hot stove seems like an hour». Albert Einstein - [11, S. 154] More Quotes, Poetry & Prose on: https://gwenaelledeardevon.wordpress.com/
Kairnoct Cthylla Order of the Ascended 2	Posted - 2016.06.06 10:29:25 - [7] - Quote Please excuse the noobish nature of my related question, but did I read that correctly that low-sec rates may be better than some null-sec rates? Is this related to some of the stuff I've read about low-sec often being more dangerous than null-sec or am I just having compounded misunderstandings?
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1508	Posted - 2016.06.06 11:45:47 - [8] - Quote low sec rates get multiplied in certain FW zones depending on which militia you are a part of and your control over a system
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 87	Posted - 2016.06.06 13:59:18 - [9] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: What used to happen is that CCP would change ship production cost so people would get wind of this and make a ton of those ships then reprocess them and make instant billions. So CCP added additional costs to get around this which was annoying as hell because you had to check two figures for the same minerals. So they decided to remove that and in doing so set the refine rate very low. A lot of people who used to refine rat drops to build stuff as part of their activity were royally screwed by this. From my understanding no one trained the scrap metal reprocessing because you had near perfect refine on mods/ships anyway. I think it was 75%-80% with good standings in high sec npc and you could get much better in POS and null. To fix this this they lowered the base return but increased the overall yield. So with perfect skills and excellent standings you got the same as you did before roughly but now it wasnt a freebie you had to put some effort into it. Think i read that in a dev blog or something.
Ix Method Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 500	Posted - 2016.06.07 08:16:16 - [10] - Quote Schtell DeMar wrote: i'd understand 20% though mechanical waste (crap machining work etc.... that's realistic) but 40+ is steep any insight in to why it's so high would be handy if you can You're not missing out on anything. It used to take no time at all to train 100% refine on a lot of the lower class ores making a lot of the refining skills pretty much redundant. So they changed things to how they are now, getting 70% or whatever on Veldspar actually gives you as much Trit as you used to get at 100% just now getting Veldspar Reprocessing V has value. It also allows them to more easily buff Low/Null/JSpace yields as ^^ Travelling at the speed of love.

Felix Judge Regnum Ludorum 45	Posted - 2016.06.07 08:38:09 - [11] - Quote The change (reduction in %) also was a way to get rid of "mineral compression by production": people would build tech I modules in high sec, transport them to nul and refine the very same modules back into minerals. At 100%, this meant no mineral loss; and the modules were much smaller m3-wise than the minerals. Voil+í, you had mineral compression without needing a Rorqual or a POS with a compression array. There were threads and charts about which modules would be best if you wanted this or that mineral most badly.
Knitram Relik Running With Railguns 58	Posted - 2016.06.07 10:19:27 - [12] - Quote With perfect skills, a 4% refine implant, and a 54% reprocessing facility you should net just over 78%. You can find a 54% facility at either a citadel that is properly fitted or using an intensive reprocessing array in low sec.
Hallvardr 79	Posted - 2016.06.07 13:20:48 - [13] - Quote "to get rid of "mineral compression by production"" <- yea this. I knew a lot of pilots that did this regularly


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