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Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 28/02/2007 23:29:57 Copied from known issues. As i've kinda invested a lot into getting set up for exploration i felt this forum is more likely to draw attention to the issue or more likely to get my concern heard Originally by: "Patch Notes -> Known Issues" The Multispectral Frequency Probe doesn't give any results if there are more than one hidden dungeon within it's scan range. Is this 100% of the time? If so i'm quite annoyed since i've just wasted several hours scanning systems and finding I get either no results or just crappy unknowns. I'm sure if missile launchers didn't fire more than one missile or something because they were bugged there would be an outcry. Please make this a top priority if this is the case. I don't mind things being hard, but broken and hiding it in last line of Patch Notes is just rude
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:40:00 - [2] atm generally exploration is still very much broken - if u find something petition the devs and also issue a bug report - provide as much details despite all the whines CCP does look at those bug reports
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 28/02/2007 23:42:20 ok, lemmy chenge the title of the thread to without question mark and just make it clear that I'm not happy that essentially a part of the game has been broken ----- I mean how many people whine about T2 lottery, invention hailed as the big fix. Well forget that if it is broke! Ain't gonna happen. Better keep the lottery afterall eh? ----- (sig starts here) Khaldari KPA Recruiting
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:51:00 - [4] thats the issue facing CCP
Kal Azmir Gallente CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:55:00 - [5] It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind.
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:56:00 - [6] Actually i don't care for the lottery (or at least not that much), but I do care that exploration is broken, and I don't mean in the sense of unbalanced I mean in the sense of it just doesn't work period if as this above known problem and my own results are for real If you undocked and found your weapons just did no damamge, that it never registered a hit or anything so it was totally impossible to kill anything in eve, NPC or PC. The game would grind to a halt instantly That is effectively what has apparently happened for exploration and me
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Kal Azmir It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind. ok so if for example there are 3 radar and 2 unknown sites, your multispec will come up with just RADAR and UNKNOWN once each only? Khaldari KPA Recruiting
Kal Azmir Gallente CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Actually i don't care for the lottery (or at least not that much), but I do care that exploration is broken, and I don't mean in the sense of unbalanced I mean in the sense of it just doesn't work period if as this above known problem and my own results are for real If you undocked and found your weapons just did no damamge, that it never registered a hit or anything so it was totally impossible to kill anything in eve, NPC or PC. The game would grind to a halt instantly That is effectively what has apparently happened for exploration and me Would you care to elaborate? I have done exploration for over a month now and made over 2.5 billion isk on it. It is working, quiet well. The only problems I see is the dungeons (complexes). They are very hard to do in a group of people and there are virtually no rewards (and chance of an escalation is really low) so no one wants to do them anymore. Profession sites however proved to be very profitable and not that hard to fine (depends on the level of the site, however the longer you look the better stuff you find). Try doing exploration in 0.0 space as I did, lowsec and empire don't yield much profit same as asteroids and NPCs in empire/low sec space.
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Originally by: Kal Azmir It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind. ok so if for example there are 3 radar and 2 unknown sites, your multispec will come up with just RADAR and UNKNOWN once each only? Exactly. -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Kal Azmir Gallente CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Originally by: Kal Azmir It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind. ok so if for example there are 3 radar and 2 unknown sites, your multispec will come up with just RADAR and UNKNOWN once each only? That is correct.
Imas Pi	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:09:00 - [11] Edited by: Imas Pi on 01/03/2007 00:06:14 Originally by: Kal Azmir Originally by: Spoon Thumb Originally by: Kal Azmir It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind. ok so if for example there are 3 radar and 2 unknown sites, your multispec will come up with just RADAR and UNKNOWN once each only? That is correct. So is the general recommendation to scan for the full hour or so to make sure you are not missing any additional sites?
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:10:00 - [12] Im mean today (in 0.0) I set out and multispec'ed about 15 odd systems and got either nothing or just 1 "unknown". Then talked to some people and they pointed me to the patch notes as quoted above. The patch notes plus my total lack of hits today (over getting a much higher average on the previous two or three days) coupled with a new patch release suggested that in fact, you would get no hits at all if the total number of hidden complexes in a system, regardless of type, was 2 or above So I want to know if anyone else has got >1 hit in a system today or if it is just my bad luck and unfortunate circumstances or if exploration is broken in the way as described above (But I thought I made that clear, clearly need to be more explicit)
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Im mean today (in 0.0) I set out and multispec'ed about 15 odd systems and got either nothing or just 1 "unknown". Then talked to some people and they pointed me to the patch notes as quoted above. The patch notes plus my total lack of hits today (over getting a much higher average on the previous two or three days) coupled with a new patch release suggested that in fact, you would get no hits at all if the total number of hidden complexes in a system, regardless of type, was 2 or above So I want to know if anyone else has got >1 hit in a system today or if it is just my bad luck and unfortunate circumstances or if exploration is broken in the way as described above (But I thought I made that clear, clearly need to be more explicit) I got 3 hits on multispec today in one system, Radar, Mag and Unknown. -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Reverend Revelator I got 3 hits on multispec today in one system, Radar, Mag and Unknown. Thank you. this means that a). i'm unlucky b). patch notes/known issues page in this case was highly ambiguous and generally not helpful
Kal Azmir Gallente CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:28:00 - [15] Originally by: Imas Pi Edited by: Imas Pi on 01/03/2007 00:06:14 Originally by: Kal Azmir Originally by: Spoon Thumb Originally by: Kal Azmir It is not a bug of exploration. The Multispectral probe doesn't list the exploration sites, it shows which KINDS of signatures are present in the system, therefore even if there were 100 uknown signatures in the system, it would only show up once, because they are all the same kind. ok so if for example there are 3 radar and 2 unknown sites, your multispec will come up with just RADAR and UNKNOWN once each only? That is correct. So is the general recommendation to scan for the full hour or so to make sure you are not missing any additional sites? Yes, If you find a signature it always doesn't mean its the one you want. The thing I do is that I hunt it down, make a bookmark in case its not what I want and go scanning again. When I get next hit I warp to the signature and compare its accuracy to the distance to the bookmark. If it matches you found the same site you found before. If it doesn't you pursue it. Once I had unknown and radar in one system and found 5 unknown sites before I found the radar one. Also, read the guides on exploration, they are very helpful. The better the site the smaller its signature radius is, which means that its harder to find. Once I looked for two days for one archaeological site and didn't find it. My frind found it after two days of searching and it was level 4, which yields some veeery nice stuff .
Kal Azmir Gallente CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Reverend Revelator Originally by: Spoon Thumb Im mean today (in 0.0) I set out and multispec'ed about 15 odd systems and got either nothing or just 1 "unknown". Then talked to some people and they pointed me to the patch notes as quoted above. The patch notes plus my total lack of hits today (over getting a much higher average on the previous two or three days) coupled with a new patch release suggested that in fact, you would get no hits at all if the total number of hidden complexes in a system, regardless of type, was 2 or above So I want to know if anyone else has got >1 hit in a system today or if it is just my bad luck and unfortunate circumstances or if exploration is broken in the way as described above (But I thought I made that clear, clearly need to be more explicit) I got 3 hits on multispec today in one system, Radar, Mag and Unknown. It seems that maximum number of types of signatures in one system is limited to 3, never found more than that.
dzieckoX	Posted - 2007.03.01 21:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 28/02/2007 23:41:49 Copied from known issues. As i've kinda invested a lot into getting set up for exploration i felt this forum is more likely to draw attention to the issue or more likely to get my concern heard Originally by: "Patch Notes -> Known Issues" The Multispectral Frequency Probe doesn't give any results if there are more than one hidden dungeon within it's scan range. sure aboptu that?? i found 2 hidden complex in same sistem soem days ago...

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