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Gil Warden
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.09 19:12:49 -
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I guess my nearly 10 year old card just won't cut it any longer.
Given that my CPU and computer have no trouble with it, it comes down to the GPU really. The problem is that the computer is OLD, as in 9-+ years old, and I won't be able to replace it any time soon either, which does put some constraints on the GPU.
Provided the CPU can handle it, will a GTX 750Ti be able to run 3 simultaneous EVE sessions on medium to high settings? |
Anhenka
Black Omega Security The OSS
1696
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Posted - 2016.06.09 19:23:01 -
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Gil Warden wrote:I guess my nearly 10 year old card just won't cut it any longer.
Given that my CPU and computer have no trouble with it, it comes down to the GPU really. The problem is that the computer is OLD, as in 9-+ years old, and I won't be able to replace it any time soon either, which does put some constraints on the GPU.
Provided the CPU can handle it, will a GTX 750Ti be able to run 3 simultaneous EVE sessions on medium to high settings?
I ran 4 clients on low on a 670M laptop.
I sort of doubt you will be able to run 3 on high without a good bit of strain, but if 1-2 are ones you don't care a ton about, one account on high with all the bells and whistles and then two on medium-low + lasers/missiles/effects should run smoothly. |
Gil Warden
The Scope Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2016.06.09 19:32:30 -
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Anhenka wrote: I ran 4 clients on low on a 670M laptop.
Thanks. IIRC the 750 Ti sits between the 950M and the full 950, and should be roughly comparable to your 670M. |
Iain Cariaba
3097
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Posted - 2016.06.11 03:21:51 -
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I ran three, sometime four, clients in window mode at 2560x1600 on medium graphics with a GT 560. Anything higher should have no difficulties, but the GT 560 is cheap.
Sadly, I've recently upgraded to a GTX 960 and a 4k screen and have some overheating issues when running more than 2 clients in fixed window. Fullscreen doesn't cause any problems, but multi-boxing is a pain with the alt-tab delay when switching fullscreen clients.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2227
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Posted - 2016.06.11 07:09:23 -
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Unsure about the 750.
I have a 950 and I run 3 clients windowed on hi res at 60fps or thereabouts.
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
81
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Posted - 2016.06.11 08:41:13 -
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A nearly 10 years old mainboard had other other power specifications then a modern one. PCIe 1 had a higher Voltage then modern GPUs. So you will have to find something that will fit into your mainboard, which will be hard to find. You can't really make a mistake because the contacts are different so you can't fry your new GPU if the specs don't fit but it will be useless.
IMHO does the end of DX9 support only mean that you will not see some modern effects but not that EVE will require DX10 or higher. |
Monstah Khaos
ElevenBravo
12
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Posted - 2016.06.11 17:27:34 -
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Gil Warden wrote:I guess my nearly 10 year old card just won't cut it any longer.
Given that my CPU and computer have no trouble with it, it comes down to the GPU really. The problem is that the computer is OLD, as in 9-+ years old, and I won't be able to replace it any time soon either, which does put some constraints on the GPU.
Provided the CPU can handle it, will a GTX 750Ti be able to run 3 simultaneous EVE sessions on medium to high settings?
P.S.: I usually run the instances in windowed mode at 1600x900 or 1280x800. The latter if I'm just mining.
I had to drop the other 3 XP laptops (need to keep XP on them) and pulled out the spare Optiplex 780s with 7 on them.
Yesterday I went and bought 2 GT 710's low profile and only running 4gb RAM on the machines. The CPUs are Dual Core E5700s (3GHz) and EVE runs fine at max settings.
The other one is an Optiplex 790 I put a GT 740 in and it has 10GB RAM with an i7 8-core in it and it runs fine at max as well.
The 4th is my bad boy Alienware I got a few months ago so yea..
Really you can grab a card from newegg or locally for $50 (suggest a DDR3 2GB) and run EVE all "prettied" out with no problems. EVE is very memory intensive so I would suggest no less than 4GB RAM. The first 2 I mentioned are older left over from a project computers that had 2GB in them and EVE was a little rough even at low settings. I added 2 more GB with the onboard card (2008 machines according to specs) and it made a world of difference. I picked up those GT 710s for $40 a pop at BestBuy (had them price match Newegg since Newegg has them on sale).
Sounds like you are running dual monitor setups? These will do it. I saved desk space and went with a KVM switch between the computers. 1 touch button and I switch to the other with about .5 second delay (as long as all resolutions are same so monitor doesn't have to adjust).
GTX is a better card but I would suggest you read up on the power supply requirements. These 710s say 300w but the system is a 250w and runs fine. You get up to the GTX 760 range you will need at least 350-400w PSU. I had to upgrade the Opti790 from the 250w. You can pick up a 400w for about $30-$40 in a BestBuy store. |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2016.06.12 13:30:18 -
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Monstah Khaos wrote:I had to drop the other 3 XP laptops (need to keep XP on them) and pulled out the spare Optiplex 780s with 7 on them.
Yesterday I went and bought 2 GT 710's low profile and only running 4gb RAM on the machines. The CPUs are Dual Core E5700s (3GHz) and EVE runs fine at max settings.
The other one is an Optiplex 790 I put a GT 740 in and it has 10GB RAM with an i7 8-core in it and it runs fine at max as well.
The 4th is my bad boy Alienware I got a few months ago so yea..
Really you can grab a card from newegg or locally for $50 (suggest a DDR3 2GB) and run EVE all "prettied" out with no problems. EVE is very memory intensive so I would suggest no less than 4GB RAM. The first 2 I mentioned are older left over from a project computers that had 2GB in them and EVE was a little rough even at low settings. I added 2 more GB with the onboard card (2008 machines according to specs) and it made a world of difference. I picked up those GT 710s for $40 a pop at BestBuy (had them price match Newegg since Newegg has them on sale).
Sounds like you are running dual monitor setups? These will do it. I saved desk space and went with a KVM switch between the computers. 1 touch button and I switch to the other with about .5 second delay (as long as all resolutions are same so monitor doesn't have to adjust).
GTX is a better card but I would suggest you read up on the power supply requirements. These 710s say 300w but the system is a 250w and runs fine. You get up to the GTX 760 range you will need at least 350-400w PSU. I had to upgrade the Opti790 from the 250w. You can pick up a 400w for about $30-$40 in a BestBuy store.
Basically what I am getting at is - Before you go dump a CPU in (and more than likely a board an everything if you are 10yrs old on the PC), try going with some RAM if you haven't already and at least a 2GB DDR3 card. Everyone screams EVE is more CPU intensive than anything but a balanced system works better than anything... You can drop an 800hp engine in a car but if you are running a junk transmission and rear end you won't be doing much better than the 500hp balanced car. Eve likes CPU when lots of stuff is going on but it ALWAYS likes to gobble up ram every time you open an extra client.
I can run 10 clients in windowed mode on an e7200 (3.2ghz) with 8 GB ddr3, hd5770 1gb (1680x1050) well enough to move characters around highsec. That's a dual core cpu from 8 years ago.
http://i.imgur.com/2LgW727.jpg
I'm not terribly convinced that you need much CPU outside of serious multiboxing. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
179
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Posted - 2016.06.12 16:57:30 -
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Gil Warden wrote:I guess my nearly 10 year old card just won't cut it any longer.
Given that my CPU and computer have no trouble with it, it comes down to the GPU really. The problem is that the computer is OLD, as in 9-+ years old, and I won't be able to replace it any time soon either, which does put some constraints on the GPU.
Provided the CPU can handle it, will a GTX 750Ti be able to run 3 simultaneous EVE sessions on medium to high settings?
P.S.: I usually run the instances in windowed mode at 1600x900 or 1280x800. The latter if I'm just mining. I suggest you save for a while and then build a complete gaming PC yourself once the AMD Polaris graphics cards are established.
You are just creating bottlenecks when you buy modern hardware for a 10+ year old PC.
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Monstah Khaos
ElevenBravo
13
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Posted - 2016.06.12 18:04:59 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:Monstah Khaos wrote:I had to drop the other 3 XP laptops (need to keep XP on them) and pulled out the spare Optiplex 780s with 7 on them.
Yesterday I went and bought 2 GT 710's low profile and only running 4gb RAM on the machines. The CPUs are Dual Core E5700s (3GHz) and EVE runs fine at max settings.
The other one is an Optiplex 790 I put a GT 740 in and it has 10GB RAM with an i7 8-core in it and it runs fine at max as well.
The 4th is my bad boy Alienware I got a few months ago so yea..
Really you can grab a card from newegg or locally for $50 (suggest a DDR3 2GB) and run EVE all "prettied" out with no problems. EVE is very memory intensive so I would suggest no less than 4GB RAM. The first 2 I mentioned are older left over from a project computers that had 2GB in them and EVE was a little rough even at low settings. I added 2 more GB with the onboard card (2008 machines according to specs) and it made a world of difference. I picked up those GT 710s for $40 a pop at BestBuy (had them price match Newegg since Newegg has them on sale).
Sounds like you are running dual monitor setups? These will do it. I saved desk space and went with a KVM switch between the computers. 1 touch button and I switch to the other with about .5 second delay (as long as all resolutions are same so monitor doesn't have to adjust).
GTX is a better card but I would suggest you read up on the power supply requirements. These 710s say 300w but the system is a 250w and runs fine. You get up to the GTX 760 range you will need at least 350-400w PSU. I had to upgrade the Opti790 from the 250w. You can pick up a 400w for about $30-$40 in a BestBuy store.
Basically what I am getting at is - Before you go dump a CPU in (and more than likely a board an everything if you are 10yrs old on the PC), try going with some RAM if you haven't already and at least a 2GB DDR3 card. Everyone screams EVE is more CPU intensive than anything but a balanced system works better than anything... You can drop an 800hp engine in a car but if you are running a junk transmission and rear end you won't be doing much better than the 500hp balanced car. Eve likes CPU when lots of stuff is going on but it ALWAYS likes to gobble up ram every time you open an extra client. I can run 10 clients in windowed mode on an e7200 (3.2ghz) with 8 GB ddr3, hd5770 1gb (1680x1050) well enough to move characters around highsec. That's a dual core cpu from 8 years ago. http://i.imgur.com/2LgW727.jpgI'm not terribly convinced that you need much CPU outside of serious multiboxing.
I agree, the 3 XP laptops I used I ran on low settings and they are pretty slow on CPU and things were ok for multi-boxing. I like to run 1 box per client as opposed to multi-clients to help cut down the strain. I work with computers in my field so I always have spares laying around. Not everyone can do that I know...but as I see EVE compared to most modern games is pretty "forgiving" on your system requirements. RAM and a little multi-purpose card all under $100..can't beat that.
These other machines I talked about are EVE machines only. I did a fresh windows install on them and turned off the updates from SP1 just bc it will take DAYS to update... I do nothing else with them. I personally wouldn't "build" a machine unless I had a lot of other games I play on it. Unless the OP is into a lot of large battles of course.... In that case...bye bye check-boxes for effects lol. |
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2016.06.12 19:53:54 -
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Monstah Khaos wrote:I agree, the 3 XP laptops I used I ran on low settings and they are pretty slow on CPU and things were ok for multi-boxing. I like to run 1 box per client as opposed to multi-clients to help cut down the strain. I work with computers in my field so I always have spares laying around. Not everyone can do that I know...but as I see EVE compared to most modern games is pretty "forgiving" on your system requirements. RAM and a little multi-purpose card all under $100..can't beat that.
These other machines I talked about are EVE machines only. I did a fresh windows install on them and turned off the updates from SP1 just bc it will take DAYS to update... I do nothing else with them. I personally wouldn't "build" a machine unless I had a lot of other games I play on it. Unless the OP is into a lot of large battles of course.... In that case...bye bye check-boxes for effects lol. The e7200 machine is a secondary machine that excluding the mobo and ram contains parts from my old main system. Used to run it at 4ghz on air during winter (4-6 months of the year).
as for the comment earlier about building a new machine..
I would wait to build a new machine until at least the end of the year. AMD is scheduled to begin releasing the ZEN based CPUs by the end of this year. According to engineer samples tested those CPUs should hang easily with Intel's latest stuff and at a reduced cost. Then there's the GPU side of things as stated earlier.
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Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
955
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Posted - 2016.06.12 20:22:30 -
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Gil Warden wrote:I guess my nearly 10 year old card just won't cut it any longer.
Given that my CPU and computer have no trouble with it, it comes down to the GPU really. The problem is that the computer is OLD, as in 9-+ years old, and I won't be able to replace it any time soon either, which does put some constraints on the GPU.
Provided the CPU can handle it, will a GTX 750Ti be able to run 3 simultaneous EVE sessions on medium to high settings?
P.S.: I usually run the instances in windowed mode at 1600x900 or 1280x800. The latter if I'm just mining. I use that card and have had no problems running 4 accounts. 2 on high settings and 2 on low.
This was last year though, so I don't know if any recaent changes have increased the load Eve places on the GPU.
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
273
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Posted - 2016.06.12 22:33:20 -
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https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/202748741-System-Requirements
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CaesarGREG
CBC Interstellar Polonium INC.
17
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Posted - 2016.06.13 11:30:21 -
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I see another problem with DX11
CCP pls do somthing with draging selected items into containters.
ON DX11 draging slowed down slower than mouse speed.
DX9 was fine Drag speed = Mouse speed.
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CaesarGREG
CBC Interstellar Polonium INC.
17
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Posted - 2016.06.13 11:34:39 -
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+This game offers many profesions: For example : industry , trading dont need high end GPU.
+Changing from DX9 > DX11 > its not only cost of buying new GPU , higher cost is buy new Windows like 7,8 , windows xp do not support DX 11 !!!!!!!
+This change is forcing ppl to change operating system, some ppl have programs for work wich r designed for older systems, new systems like 7 , 8 have problems with support of old visual basic 6.
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2112
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Posted - 2016.06.13 11:43:53 -
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CaesarGREG wrote:ON DX11 draging slowed down slower than mouse speed.
DX9 was fine Drag speed = Mouse speed. Please bug report this by pressing F12 and choosing Report Bug, or by submitting a report here.
Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6180
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Posted - 2016.06.13 22:09:42 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th. Microsoft XP support ended April 8th, 2014.
Ya, time to upgrade!
However, I personally refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, because of its data harvesting [which has been proven to still harvest even when explicitly configured not to]. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
297
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Posted - 2016.06.14 14:56:58 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th. Microsoft XP support ended April 8th, 2014. Ya, time to upgrade! However, I personally refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, because of its data harvesting [which has been proven to still harvest even when explicitly configured not to].
It's not always understood that a number of us are refusing to go to Windows 10 for that and a couple of other reasons. I can handle Windows 8.1, and prefer 7 for ease of use, and again, the lack of Microsoft's harvesting of *ME*. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3147
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Posted - 2016.06.14 15:03:35 -
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Joia Crenca wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th. Microsoft XP support ended April 8th, 2014. Ya, time to upgrade! However, I personally refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, because of its data harvesting [which has been proven to still harvest even when explicitly configured not to]. It's not always understood that a number of us are refusing to go to Windows 10 for that and a couple of other reasons. I can handle Windows 8.1, and prefer 7 for ease of use, and again, the lack of Microsoft's harvesting of *ME*.
you know windows 7 and 8 have been updated to collect data aswell?
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Ix Method
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
500
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Posted - 2016.06.14 15:11:01 -
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The 750ti will do admirably if your motherboard supports it fully (?) and fwiw is far more powerful than a 670M.
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Frostys Virpio
Yet another corpdot.
2917
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Posted - 2016.06.14 16:45:57 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Joia Crenca wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th. Microsoft XP support ended April 8th, 2014. Ya, time to upgrade! However, I personally refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, because of its data harvesting [which has been proven to still harvest even when explicitly configured not to]. It's not always understood that a number of us are refusing to go to Windows 10 for that and a couple of other reasons. I can handle Windows 8.1, and prefer 7 for ease of use, and again, the lack of Microsoft's harvesting of *ME*. you know windows 7 and 8 have been updated to collect data aswell?
I always wonder what people will do when the support for 7 and 8 drop since the upgrade scheme make it much more likely it won't last really long anyway. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3148
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Posted - 2016.06.14 19:09:08 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Joia Crenca wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that DX9 will likely continue to be supported for a while after Windows XP support ends on June 30th. Microsoft XP support ended April 8th, 2014. Ya, time to upgrade! However, I personally refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, because of its data harvesting [which has been proven to still harvest even when explicitly configured not to]. It's not always understood that a number of us are refusing to go to Windows 10 for that and a couple of other reasons. I can handle Windows 8.1, and prefer 7 for ease of use, and again, the lack of Microsoft's harvesting of *ME*. you know windows 7 and 8 have been updated to collect data aswell? I always wonder what people will do when the support for 7 and 8 drop since the upgrade scheme make it much more likely it won't last really long anyway.
i really dont understand why anyone even uses windows 8, its terrible
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2016.06.14 23:36:59 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i really dont understand why anyone even uses windows 8, its terrible Windows 8 has superior resource management and much faster boot times.
The interface is also superior if you're power user as a simple right click allows you to access everything from a command prompt with admin rights to the vanilla control panel. The metro interface has a superior search capability and the organization of installed applications is far better.
Only people who are stuck in time and unable to adapt a little would refuse to utilize a superior OS. Reminds me of the people who complained about windows being worthless and useless because DOS was "good enough". In their view Windows was just an unneeded mess that hogged resources because it was piled on top of DOS. Even when windows 3 rolled around the DOS diehards clinged to their dying ways. |
Gil Warden
The Scope Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2016.06.15 11:02:04 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:I always wonder what people will do when the support for 7 and 8 drop since the upgrade scheme make it much more likely it won't last really long anyway.
I'm hoping for a native Linux version of EVE, not the Wine version. |
WhipDiddyWhip
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2016.06.15 15:22:12 -
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will dx12 be a thing anytime for eve?, eve desperately needs better multithreading support |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2016.06.15 20:24:26 -
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WhipDiddyWhip wrote:will dx12 be a thing anytime for eve?, eve desperately needs better multithreading support Not for some time as they are planning to keep dx9 around for a while longer. Especially when you consider that windows 10 is only just now getting to roughly 20% usage. Windows 7 in comparison is around 40%. |
Frostys Virpio
Yet another corpdot.
2922
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Posted - 2016.06.16 15:44:44 -
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WhipDiddyWhip wrote:will dx12 be a thing anytime for eve?, eve desperately needs better multithreading support
What do you want to optimize with multi-threading? |
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