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Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
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Posted - 2016.06.17 21:47:52 -
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For anyone who wants to...
Liek Darz = worth almost 3 billion alone in bounty. John Rockhold-II Plasma Death = 275 million in bounty. Pellion Pendragon = 10 million in bounty
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16387
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:20:55 -
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All well and good but if all they do is fly cats then this isnt very usefull now is it?
Got a story?
Better the Devil you know.
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Oylpann Kumamato
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:30:25 -
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They are all -10 anyway. Killrights are irrelevant. Anyone can shoot them. What I'm getting from this is: Grr Code.. Why you kill my Retriever?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54657745/ |
Valkin Mordirc
2129
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:32:53 -
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Kotex was first manufactured as bandages, during WW I.
I can give out completely irrelevant facts to.
How are either of these things beneficial?
#DeleteTheWeak
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
1073
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:34:23 -
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"Duck tape" as a spelling for duct tape is also correct. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16389
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:38:39 -
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"red bowl" used in medeval guilding smells like a dead thing.
"size" used to afix goldleaf to the aformentioned red bowl , smells like vodka ...with a dead thing in it.
Better the Devil you know.
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Areen Sassel
121
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Posted - 2016.06.18 02:06:03 -
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The "torpedos" in "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" were what we would now call mines. |
StonerPhReaK
AFK Inc.
422
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Posted - 2016.06.18 02:37:15 -
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62 degrees Fahrenheit (16.666c) is the minimum temperature required for a grasshopper to be able to hop.
Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2271
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Posted - 2016.06.18 08:15:18 -
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The Blobfish lives at depths that would likely make gas bladders inefficient for maintaining buoyancy.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
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Posted - 2016.06.18 11:07:05 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:All well and good but if all they do is fly cats then this isnt very usefull now is it?
Got a story?
Of course I do. They are -10 so technically anyone can kill them anyway but here is in character reason:
It was a dark day in outer space like most days. A group of miners were doing their usual daily routine of mining in high sector to provide mineral to some buyers. Before we knew about it we were shot upon and killed for not having "mining permit" to mine in high sec. We were asked if you understood why we were killed, we ignored this and left without saying good bye. We yelled "We will revenge our dead brethren, as we all went back to safe alliance region to mine mercoxit in peace" . We were marked red and rude, we marked them red and asshats.
Because the CODE rule is that we are first suppose to be asked, talked to and pay the fee if we want to, this goes against the code rules and thus we feel obligated to share the kill rights and ask for justice! We decided that it would be easier if someone just knew that the killright are open for grab and if they see at least the CODE player they are free to kill him. This to our sane mind seems like a better solution than miners taking up arms against soldiers of war.
We are miners. So the information is here that its not a problem killing these aggressive creature and especially the player from CODE who broke their own procedure. We didn't get any of the opportunity that is suppose to be given to active miners!
Step 1 - "- Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to forfeiture."
If not
Step 2 - " If a miner does not wish to purchase a mining indulgence, he may still be granted a one-day reprieve, if he is able to correctly answer the Supreme Protector's Questions Three."
We never got the chance to do either, thus as per our logic this is injustice and also goes against their own law. So we are asking for justice. We can't take CODE seriously if their contributors do not follow their own rules, law or regulations! Justice!
Out of character:
I don't mind dying but if there are "in game/character law" I expect the courtesy of being given the fun choices and then go through the consequences. Not being given it, I put it up for all to grab or otherwise. Simple as that. Take it or not. The info and reminder is above. No need to spam or troll, or whatever. If you are not interested to use it then move to another forum thread. If you are like some players you might want "in character" reason to hunt someone. So there it is. Enjoy!
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NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics CODE.
139
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Posted - 2016.06.18 11:20:53 -
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That alliance name made me think of the infamous short story Squad Broken. After reading that RP drivel I get the feeling that this is not a coincidence.
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12404
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Posted - 2016.06.18 12:05:49 -
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Why is it that characters with the toughest, most macho sounding names always seem to be wailing for assistance and/or complaining?
(+1 for taking the time to write up the story though OP)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
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Posted - 2016.06.18 12:12:15 -
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Bumblefck wrote: (+1 for taking the time to write up the story though OP)
I find RP fun so I might as well use the mechanic or incident to have some emergent RP fun. :) Everyone is just playing their way and trying to have fun, at least these people have some website, structure and so on to turn it into RP. So yeah.
It is all good fun, no one is complaining or anything.
Bumblefck wrote:Why is it that characters with the toughest, most macho sounding names always seem to be wailing for assistance and/or complaining?
Me? I went soft and good. :)
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Paranoid Loyd
9170
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Posted - 2016.06.18 14:50:36 -
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I cant read
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12409
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Posted - 2016.06.18 15:10:54 -
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Razor Axe wrote:Bumblefck wrote: (+1 for taking the time to write up the story though OP)
I find RP fun so I might as well use the mechanic or incident to have some emergent RP fun. :) Everyone is just playing their way and trying to have fun, at least these people have some website, structure and so on to turn it into RP. So yeah. It is all good fun, no one is complaining or anything. Bumblefck wrote:Why is it that characters with the toughest, most macho sounding names always seem to be wailing for assistance and/or complaining? Me? I went soft and good. :)
I was pretty much speaking in generalities, having seen this whine thread just a few minutes before yours (check the OP's name!)...and my original comment more or less wrote itself lol :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
7
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Posted - 2016.06.18 16:38:34 -
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Razor Axe wrote:
Because the CODE rule is that we are first suppose to be asked, talked to and pay the fee if we want to, this goes against the code rules
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/04/who-you-gonna-call-part-2.html
last paragraph is what you are looking for |
Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
307
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:17:57 -
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For an RPer, you have a horrible looking miner there. He looks nothing like a miner.
Maybe you should consider doing some pirate stuff. |
Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
5
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Posted - 2016.06.19 09:55:05 -
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Maekchu wrote:For an RPer, you have a horrible looking miner there. He looks nothing like a miner.
Maybe you should consider doing some pirate stuff.
Haha. I did point it out above.
"Me? I went soft and good. :)"
There is a history behind him. Then again, that is stereotyping. :P |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2608
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Posted - 2016.06.19 10:07:27 -
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Razor Axe wrote:Because the CODE rule is that we are first suppose to be asked, talked to and pay the fee if we want to, this goes against the code rules and thus we feel obligated to share the kill rights and ask for justice! Where do you get your knowledge of the Code from? AG channel? Maybe you should read it, because there is no provision in there by which an Agent is obligated to contact you first. Obviously you knew about the Code and your wrong doing all along and you just want to space-lawyer yourself out of the trouble thief!
If you want to mine in New Order territory you need a mining permit. Every miner knows this, there is no excuse anymore if your ship blows up because you violated the law.
P.S. sharing the killright is considered treason rebel! Better stay out of Highsec!
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
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Posted - 2016.06.19 14:58:31 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Razor Axe wrote:Because the CODE rule is that we are first suppose to be asked, talked to and pay the fee if we want to, this goes against the code rules and thus we feel obligated to share the kill rights and ask for justice! Where do you get your knowledge of the Code from? AG channel? Maybe you should read it, because there is no provision in there by which an Agent is obligated to contact you first. Obviously you knew about the Code and your wrong doing all along and you just want to space-lawyer yourself out of the trouble thief! If you want to mine in New Order territory you need a mining permit. Every miner knows this, there is no excuse anymore if your ship blows up because you violated the law. P.S. sharing the killright is considered treason rebel! Better stay out of Highsec!
I will bite...reply...and play a long. :P
1. I checked your website and what not.
2. No, I never heard about the code until that incident. You have been a nobody to me for a decade. You should put up marketing board because you guys are terrible at making it clear. In fact, for the last decade I have only been managed to be killed 5 times and those are the times I do not use my cloaks. :P
3. Everyone knows there is no such thing as New Order Territory or mining permit. We all know you are scammers and rogue agents, as per my recent research about CODE.
4. Let us pretend you do own high sec (which we know you don't, no one cares). Let us also pretend it cost 10 million ISK a year to mine in high sec( most new miners in high sec don't even have that money, scammer). Out of sheer organizational curiosity, how do you guys keep track of this? How do you send out a valid permit? How do you check if it is valid when you see someone with a mining permit? How do you know if it is out of date?
5. Regardless of what you pretend to be or say. If what you say is true to you, and you truly believe it you will respect my argument and give me my mining permit.
I lost my ship and the person got my bounty, ISK and everything else I had at the time. Which is worth more than 10 million ISK. So I have paid my permit for the next 4 years. So let us play your game... where is my permit? ;)
There is no specification on how to pay the 10 million ISK, so I paid it by dying. There is no rule, law or any exceptions in your rules per today. So you guys owe me your "mining permit" for 4 years. And will leave me alone as per your rules you ask for minimum 10 million ISK.
If you want me to acknowledge CODE. you must acknowledge that I have paid for my miners permit as it doesn't state in what form the ISK should be given. Thus, I argue you and CODE. owe me 4 years permit. So please mail me this "permit" and I will play a long for now.
Thank you, I will wait for this permit otherwise I will not acknowledge your rules or that you own high sec. As my argument stands solid until you can prove an old rule, that is not added or updated after this post that says it has to be paid with hard earn wallet transaction or donation. If not, give me my permit. |
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2016.06.19 15:06:06 -
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Razor Axe wrote:Maekchu wrote:For an RPer, you have a horrible looking miner there. He looks nothing like a miner.
Maybe you should consider doing some pirate stuff. Haha. I did point it out above. "Me? I went soft and good. :)" There is a history behind him. Then again, that is stereotyping. :P Missed that one.
Anyway, you should really be fond of CODE. They are some of the biggest RPers out there.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2609
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Posted - 2016.06.20 06:31:33 -
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Miner, I am glad you ask the questions here, maybe some other confused miner will find an answer too if he stumbles upon this post.
Razor Axe wrote: 1. I checked your website and what not.
Then You should know by now that there is no provision in the Code that grants you a warning before the gank. You had all the warnings already it's not like we govern Highsec only since yesterday. It is also always a good idea to ask around about the law and who owns the place before you start to strip it off it's resources, don't you think?
Razor Axe wrote: 2. No, I never heard about the code until that incident. You have been a nobody to me for a decade. You should put up marketing board because you guys are terrible at making it clear. In fact, for the last decade I have only been managed to be killed 5 times and those are the times I do not use my cloaks. :P
Noted - more propaganda threads and advertisement of the Code needed.
Razor Axe wrote: 3. Everyone knows there is no such thing as New Order Territory or mining permit. We all know you are scammers and rogue agents, as per my recent research about CODE.
Did you perform your research in the AG channel? They will lie to you. In fact the New Order governs Highsec for about 4 years now. Our Saviour and Father of the New Order of Highsec James 315 was unanimously elected Supreme Protector of Highsec by all the citizens of Highsec. The New Order is the institution which defends this democracy and it's Code, to make Highsec a better place where we can all be comfortable to raise our children.
Razor Axe wrote: 4. Let us pretend you do own high sec (which we know you don't, no one cares). Let us also pretend it cost 10 million ISK a year to mine in high sec( most new miners in high sec don't even have that money, scammer). Out of sheer organizational curiosity, how do you guys keep track of this? How do you send out a valid permit? How do you check if it is valid when you see someone with a mining permit? How do you know if it is out of date?
The inner workings of the permit system is very intricate and can not be discussed here. We try to not burden the simple minds of our mining citizens with overly complex details which may confuse them and hinder their productivity. You just need to know that it works perfectly and that there never was a mistake made in the history of the New Order.
Razor Axe wrote:5. Regardless of what you pretend to be or say. If what you say is true to you, and you truly believe it you will respect my argument and give me my mining permit. I lost my ship and the person got my bounty, ISK and everything else I had at the time. Which is worth more than 10 million ISK. So I have paid my permit for the next 4 years. So let us play your game... where is my permit? ;)
There is no specification on how to pay the 10 million ISK, so I paid it by dying. There is no rule, law or any exceptions in your rules per today. So you guys owe me your "mining permit" for 4 years. And will leave me alone as per your rules you ask for minimum 10 million ISK.
If you want me to acknowledge CODE. you must acknowledge that I have paid for my miners permit as it doesn't state in what form the ISK should be given. Thus, I argue you and CODE. owe me 4 years permit. So please mail me this "permit" and I will play a long for now. Thank you, I will wait for this permit otherwise I will not acknowledge your rules or that you own high sec. As my argument stands solid until you can prove an old rule, that is not added or updated after this post that says it has to be paid with hard earn wallet transaction or donation. If not, give me my permit.
Your confiscated illegal mining equipment and the bounty reward the Agent got who put a stop to your criminal activities can obviously not be used to purchase a mining permit. One would think that is obvious. That would be as if a drug dealer could pay his fine with the confiscated drugs. Such thoughts just give us more evidence that the miners mind is not fit to function on it's own and that he is in dire need of leadership, which we are here to provide.
As you may have noticed from the killmail of your illegal mining vessel, compliance is enforced without asking if you are somehow waiting for your permit. I suggest you make sure you get those papers in order before you start your next mining op, or it may end with another dead mining barge. If you are confused about the way how to acquire a mining permit you should just ask an Agent where to send the money. Pure speculation and silly space-lawyering will get you nowhere.
Feel free to ask more questions if you are still confused. I am here to help.
Sincerely Agent Ima Wreckoyu
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Liek DarZ
New Order Logistics CODE.
7
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Posted - 2016.06.20 07:41:41 -
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Greetings, citizen!
Other agents have already tried to help with your misconceptions, but please let me add where I feel I can remove some further unclarities...
Razor Axe wrote:[2. No, I never heard about the code until that incident. You have been a nobody to me for a decade. You should put up marketing board because you guys are terrible at making it clear. In fact, for the last decade I have only been managed to be killed 5 times and those are the times I do not use my cloaks. :P See, I usually announce myself before a law enforcement, unless I did so in the same system in the last 30minutes already. While a PSA is valuable for all citizens, there is still common courtesy (you will clearly know that one, right?) not to repeat yourself overly. TBH, I do not remember exactly with you if I made an announcement right before policing you or in the aforementioned 30minutes - but you can ask around, I make CODE.'s presence known (even though we are not required to do so - as you can read here - yes, we stick to what we promise, and sometimes go beyond that even).
So you feel we should post in local even more frequently? Personal convos to every single pilot in local are not possible for obvious reasons.
Razor Axe wrote:3. Everyone knows there is no such thing as New Order Territory or mining permit. We all know you are scammers and rogue agents, as per my recent research about CODE. See, that myth is spread by e.g. AG. Thousands of people claim the same every month, and what does it do good to them? Nothing, they end up on the CODE. killboard.
OTOH, I could easily give you a list of 10 people who were all saved due to having a permit. You can contact them and do the research yourself instead of relying on hear-say.
Just becaue there is not an ingame item, it does not mean it does not exist. Chribba is an established 3rd party who does not use only ingame mechanics; renting space in nul does not have an ingame mechanic either. I have never scammed any one when selling a permit (and I have sold 531 so far), I always make it clear what is the benefits and the obligations of a permit holder. It appears your research was incomplete, thus.
Oh, and in regards to your kill right offer: Enjoy it as the pure "fluff" it is, sure. Yet, like most other established agents, your kill right is... not exactly unique. I get one free KR activated on me like every three months, so yours will be about as effective as the single guy who put 1.5b bounty on my head.
I hope you were otherwise able to appreciate our services!
Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order of Hisec.
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Bluejay Destros
Devoid Industrial Services LLC.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:21:07 -
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Since the time I was ganked I have bought at least 14 mining permits. I am also a shareholder.
This was after my freighter loss to CODE. which you can see here https://zkillboard.com/kill/50317020/
I fly a tanked Procurer now. I see members of CODE. in local and wave at them to prove I am at the keyboard. I am a compliant miner. I report bots and bot aspirants. I have never been ganked ever since. CODE. bumpers have bumped my freighter at gates and after a permit check they let me go (I got 14 of them). I don't see what the whining is all about.
Perhaps you might want to try out flying compliant instead of trying to scam other players by selling useless kill rights that no one will ever buy. It would be a shame to trick a new player into violating The Code with your carelessness.
Fly compliant, miner, or feel the fury of James 315. Invest into a mining permit today. |
Exaido
Fire Over Light
35
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:54:52 -
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Whenever I hear mining permit. I read it as 'lunch money' and hi-sec as 'playground'. Damn you gave up your 'lunch money ' 14 times and you're proud of it? |
Exaido
Fire Over Light
35
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:58:19 -
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My dog just ganked a bird in the yard and left the wreck on the floor. I guess the bird didn't have a garden permit... Maybe there is something to this. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2016.06.20 13:56:12 -
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#1 - Kill Rights on CODE are useless. Anyone can shoot them at any time, and only an idiot is going to stop and activate a kill right beforehand because they are usually warping away as fast as they can (not to run from you, but to avoid the police)
#2 - I personally am strictly a NBSI pilot. I can and will kill anything that I'm legally able to kill. I have always flown thus and see no reason to change. As such, I have been known to kill the occasional CODE pilot who happens to allow me to get a target lock. However, I want to make it absolutely clear, I'm not killing them for you. I'm just killing them because they exist and they can be killed. |
Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
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Posted - 2016.06.20 14:30:10 -
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I refuse to bow down to this CODE or be someones pet. I shall mine every time you blink, sleep, drink, turn around and otherwise. You shall not enslave high sec! |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2612
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Posted - 2016.06.20 15:25:23 -
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Razor Axe wrote:I refuse to bow down to this CODE or be someones pet. I shall mine every time you blink, sleep, drink, turn around and otherwise. You shall not enslave high sec! If you want anarchy and just do what you want go to lowsec or something. In Highsec we heave a civilized society and democracy which comes with a lot of benefits but you also have to follow the laws and pay the taxes so we are able to uphold the law. Leeches and criminals like you are not welcome in our territory.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Razor Axe
The Realm Gaming Almost Broken
6
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Posted - 2016.06.20 16:30:57 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Razor Axe wrote:I refuse to bow down to this CODE or be someones pet. I shall mine every time you blink, sleep, drink, turn around and otherwise. You shall not enslave high sec! If you want anarchy and just do what you want go to lowsec or something. In Highsec we heave a civilized society and democracy which comes with a lot of benefits but you also have to follow the laws and pay the taxes so we are able to uphold the law. Leeches and criminals like you are not welcome in our territory.
CODE has no honor. Preying on the weak newly hired workers. You should be ashamed of yourself. Katuh! |
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