Well done, Miss Sulii.

There are no lows you wont stoop to is there.

I don't think witch is strong enough anymore... But I'm fairly sure to properly express myself I would get a hefty fine from concord...

Hmm... he betrayed his people to fight for the enemy, just as I. If you would rejoice in my death, then why am I a witch for rejoicing in his?

I suspect the real Eran Mintor has merely adopted another face and personality and will emerge in time as the controlling intellect behind agendas placed into his new organization (whatever that might be).

That theory's so bleak and turgid that I'm impressed. I aspire to such levels of irrational paranoia and cynicism. I bow before the master.

Damn, that made me jump. I so just nearly unplugged my implants to resterilise them. You know, just in case one of Eran's pin-sized molecules got in or whatever.

Shoot an ordinary man in the head and the matter is settled. With a capsuleer you must not only destroy his 'working body' but jam the death transmission to the cloning facility

You only have to worry about 'death transmission' when a capsuleer is 'plugged in' to his pod. Outside of that specific senario we die just like everyone else.

Although no harm in being thorough, perhaps.

Universities these days...

The only thing restricting multiple, active clones is the law. I see a potential loophole in allowing dormant clones to be reactivated should an event like this occur. With how much is invested into capsuleers, I see that becoming a regular practice inevitable. Our potential is staggering; never before was it possible to reasonably depend on an individual for so many different things, work to teach them so much and accept death was no longer an issue.

We're not invincible, but our power gives our investors a lot of incentive to try to make us to be.

You people are heartless fools. You should know that I, the one who stole your glorious general, your Hero of Ezzara, the one who took him from your cause and brought him to his knees before God will bring him back.

Unless you have access to some highly advanced new technology we are unaware of... currently the very act of scanning a capsuleer's consciousness destroys the brain. The 'flash' brain scan is automatically activated when your pod hull is breached, killing the clone body in order to scan and transmit to a waiting clone. As yet there are no individual, portable sized versions of this technology. Rumors are rumors until seen and verified in the field.

You might have tugged at his heartstrings, but I'm pretty sure you can't make a dead heart beat again.

That said, my sympathies for your personal loss Lianne.

Example?

Unless you have access to some highly advanced new technology we are unaware of... currently the very act of scanning a capsuleer's consciousness destroys the brain. The 'flash' brain scan is automatically activated when your pod hull is breached, killing the clone body in order to scan and transmit to a waiting clone. As yet there are no individual, portable sized versions of this technology. Rumors are rumors until seen and verified in the field.

This is straying off topic however. Mintor is dead.

[...] Death isn't what it used to be.

Well done, Anya, well done.
You have shown to all of us the true form of minmatars.
Even myself thought about minmatars as warriors who are just misled and manipulated by filthy gallentean overlords.
But you displayed a pinnacle of backstabbing: you are not warriors, but a mere assassins.
You have inspired hearts of loyal amarrians with hate against your kin, against YOU.
You made a martyr for the Amarr Empire, a hero whose name was Eran Mintor.
You will hear his name when capital fleets will hold your ships docked.
You will hear his name when your gatecamps will scatter in fear.
You will hear his name when burning remains of your fleets will be falling into atmosphere of your homeworlds.

If she has a couple of fingernail clippings and a speck of quantum storage housing a mindstate backup then she certainly can bring him back.

Death isn't what it used to be.

Because she's a lying snake with an immense double standard. Come to think of it, isn't that basically why you turned your back on the Amarrian status quo in the first place?

You people are heartless fools. You should know that I, the one who stole your glorious general, your Hero of Ezzara, the one who took him from your cause and brought him to his knees before God will bring him back.

Don't you mean that God will bring him back, Miss Lianne?

Hmm... he betrayed his people to fight for the enemy, just as I. If you would rejoice in my death, then why am I a witch for rejoicing in his?

Don't you mean that God will bring him back, Miss Lianne?

Well done, Anya, well done.
You have shown to all of us the true form of minmatars.
Even myself thought about minmatars as warriors who are just misled and manipulated by filthy gallentean overlords.
But you displayed a pinnacle of backstabbing: you are not warriors, but a mere assassins.
You have inspired hearts of loyal amarrians with hate against your kin, against YOU.
You made a martyr for the Amarr Empire, a hero whose name was Eran Mintor.
You will hear his name when capital fleets will hold your ships docked.
You will hear his name when your gatecamps will scatter in fear.
You will hear his name when burning remains of your fleets will be falling into atmosphere of your homeworlds.

I think it is quite amusing how capsuleers react to the death of another capsuleer.

We have no issues killing thousands of people every day. Millions die in this war. No one bothers, no one cares. But when a single capsuleer dies, people cry about cold hearts and about how the killers have shown their "true form".

Are we a bit shocked to be reminded of our own weakness?

if the Amarr view him as a martyr then they and their religion have surely fallen far. He died a traitors death at the hands of commandos. A fitting end.

Who are you? Warrior?

Who are you? Warrior?

Caldari mercenary

against those who would not call you enemy otherwise

You fear the Gallente

and you, what do you fight for here in Minmatar space? I dont even know.

The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente.

The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious.

Even if it was not the Republic that did it, when the Elders and Thukkers (that are revered Minmtar to my knowledge) choosed to strike CONCORD central HQ in Yulai, they indirectly choosed to threaten all the other 3 empires, and even their own. That also concerns the Caldari.

The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious.

Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth.
Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic.
We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.

Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth.
Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic.
We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.

Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth.
Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic.
We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.

Apparently Wolfsbrigade is desperate enough now to resort to suicide tactics. You must be a loyal bunch.

Seriously. Smartbombing battleships? That is so YC 109.

Was this just your attempt to liquidate heavy assets in preparation for a move back to the war that is actually being fought, you know, for your home and people? Cause, you know, coming here to fight us... well, for a warrior to abandon their home, deepest shame.

Wait wait wait..

You do realize that there are far more Caldari militia in tha minmatar/amarr warzone, than there are minmatar in the caldari/gallente one? We minmatar have no interest in you. You are enemies by proxy, that is all. You are attacking us not the other way around. So, despite saying you don't want a war on two fronts, you... started one. Which you are now losing. Wonderful tactical ability there.

War on two fronts has started long ago. I didn't ever say I don't want a war on two fronts, please read carefully what have you emphasized in my reply. I can clarify this to you: the point is in keeping concentration of forces to deal with enemies step-by-step.

Diana Kim is a mewling Statist, a horribly biased observer and if her fighting is like her posting here, a terrible soldier.

Because you help the gallente!! rage rage

Diana Kim is a mewling Statist, a horribly biased observer and if her fighting is like her posting here, a terrible soldier.

Pay her no mind, she's quite mad. If she had any brains at all she'd be back in Caldari space fighting the FDU but in that case she would, you know, actually have to take some action.

Actually if anything the Elder Fleet/Thukker attack on Yulai gave the Caldari the perfect window of opportunity to invade Luminaire and secure Caldari Prime.


Remind me who they help again?

Sorry, this reply was for Kalaratiri, sorry again not to mention this, it's not for discussion

Yes, gods forbid someone challenges you with a counter argument to your way of thinking.


Also after the Seyllin incident, the Amarr Empire offered the Gallente aid: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2860&tid=4

"THEY HELP TEH GALLENTE!!!!1111oneoneone...


See how ridiculous this train of thought gets?

Witch? No. Hilarious? Yes. It should have served as a stark reminder of what you are now, instead of something to be "celebrated." Eran did more for the humane treatment of slaves while within the Empire than you'll ever be able to accomplsih from without.

Are you really so utterly helpless that you cannot do anything on your own and must appeal to God to do anything?

I would be interested to know if you've actually done anything of importance since your betrayal, Miss Underking. Merely becoming a traitor to your people and flying under a terrorist banner means little in the grand scheme of things.
You seem to preach an awful lot, but have you actually free'd any slaves? Have you done anything noteworthy for your cause? Consider me curious.

Also, it is highly heretical to use my God's name to justify your actions. Please refrain from doing so again.

Thats politics

She thought for herself.

Andreus believes in genociding those whose opinions he doesn't like. His opinion is invalid.

Andreus believes in genociding those whose opinions he doesn't like. His opinion is invalid.

Don't you think that's a bit simplified? He does not like all of my opinions, and he so far hasn't expressed an intent to kill me.

She thought for herself.

You say this as if it's something that should be encouraged. The Word says differently:

Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder.
- Book I, The Code of Demeanor

You say this as if it's something that should be encouraged.

Yes, that is exactly his point.

Blind obedience to the Scriptures has been used to justify a lot of atrocities the Amarr have committed. It is important to the other cultures to believe that the Amarr are not a ticking timebomb anymore, but can be trusted even if they might at some point not be as weak anymore as they currently are. One way to achieve that is to show that the Amarr show that they are capable of laying aside their blind obedience to the Scriptures when the blind obedience would ask them to commit what other cultures consider atrocities.

Hence why Ms. Underking has done - in the eyes of the other cultures, at least - a lot more for the Amarrian culture than all the combatants in the Crusade together.

Do me a favor and go and die quietly, Ixiris.

You say this as if it's something that should be encouraged. The Word says differently:

Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder.
- Book I, The Code of Demeanor

Do me a favor and go and die quietly, Ixiris.

That's not his style. His funeral will likely involve three nights of fireworks and go-go girls.

Do me a favour and come and speak those words to my face, or slink back to your hole, Amarrian.

Guys? Someone died..? Maybe keep it to mail or something.

Seriously not the place.

That's not his style. His funeral will likely involve three nights of fireworks and go-go girls.

Well, let's compromise: You come over to my 'hole' and I speak those words to your face.

Thinking about it, I don't have a problem with coming over to the Federation and speaking those words again to your face over a cup of coffee or tea somewhere. Crystal boulevard is nice this time of the year. Just in case you don't want to come over to Sarum Prime or are unable to compromise for whatever other reasons that there are.

What an Amarrian is prepared to say on the IGS she should be prepared to back up with her lasers, and I daresay I've been in Amarr space - doing the job your people should be doing and keeping the pirate rabble in line - a lot more often recently than you've been to Federation space.

You're attempting to interpret the Scriptures. That's basically heresy - they're meant to be taken literally.

Why should I back up a request to die quietly with lasers?

Your barbaric attitude to settle every dealing you have with Empire-loyal Amarr with force, taking the potential death of your crew as something so easily considered, is, quite frankly, repugnant.

You've converted and become an expert on Amarrian religion?

My, things have changed while I've been away.

Udorians have a more successful, more prosperous and less oppressive society than you? Conquer and enslave them.
Sabi Sanik have theological disagreements with you? Murder and exile them.
Takhmal have theological disagreements with you? Murder and exile them.
Ni-Kunni live inoffensively in a far corner of the cluster? Conquer and enslave them.
Another tribe on the Ni-Kunni homeworld resists you? Wipe them out.
Minmatar have a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions just fine without your god? Conquer and enslave them.
Starkmanir throw you off the planet that's rightfully theirs after a half-millenia of abuse? Wipe them out.
Jovians have a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions just fine without your god? Attempt to conquer and enslave them (although thankfully, that didn't work out too well for you).
Federation has a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions better without your god? Make plans to conquer and enslave them.
Business partner becomes politically inconvenient to support? Stab him in the back.

Ah, so I guess you are just all talk then.



That attitude - not that it's an accurate description of the one I hold - is by no means barbaric; it's pragmatic. The Amarrians have a very long history of taking out their own issues on others by means of violence.

Udorians have a more successful, more prosperous and less oppressive society than you? Conquer and enslave them.
[...]

Well, this is some kind of gigantic slippery slope you're slipping on, Ixiris. And all that in a post that starts with reproaching me for not being willing to use my lasers and then going on to criticize that we Amarr always use our lasers against other people.

This starts to drift off into the field of comedy. Make your mind up, Captain.

I just think you are bitter because I switched sides and it's easy to be bitter against people you consider to be your enemy.

Right now, I'm quite apathetic. I'd have more concern about a box of fertilizer switching it's loyalties than I've been able to muster for your case.

I don't think you actually meant "apathetic" there, as you do express your opinion on the topic (repeatedly, even). You probably meant "unconcerned", as you think that this defection will not really affect that which you care for.

You say this as if it's something that should be encouraged. The Word says differently:

Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder.
- Book I, The Code of Demeanor

You're attempting to interpret the Scriptures. That's basically heresy - they're meant to be taken literally.

Well, as this is not a thread to mourn the fallen, but one opened to boast about his successful extermination and cry "Fear the Tribes!", I don't see how the polite request to die quietly doesn't fit into the conversation.

That's not his style. His funeral will likely involve three nights of fireworks and go-go girls.

I see both of you are paying too much attention to our local gallente clown's words. Take my advice, save your time, it doesn't worth wasting on twaddler like him.

Confirming a sighting of Eran Mintor in Dal local, around 07:10 standard time, 29 December.

He lives.

Good news if true. I remain wary. Have seen from personal experience how it is possible to return from "irrevocable death". The nature of the infomorph is information and information is next to impossible to contain. I have seen a lover regrown from a scattering of subatomic particles trace genetic material and quantum-entangled info gleam smaller than a pinhead.

I suspect the real Eran Mintor has merely adopted another face and personality and will emerge in time as the controlling intellect behind agendas placed into his new organization (whatever that might be).

I also doubt this 'commando' story as well.

It's like getting socks for my birthday.

Fear the tribes, eh?
Thanks for the show