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Marmite Toast	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:38:00 - [1] After saving for two months I invested in a domination stasis webifier for 130m to sell for 150m. A guy offered me 250m so I took the chance and sold it to him but he scammed me. I should have known something was up but I just saw $$$'s . Ive petitioned it , do you know my chances? Marmite Toast > hi Unabridged > hey Unabridged > ill give you 250m for the web if its in h-sec Marmite Toast > hmm Marmite Toast > ok Marmite Toast > u can get to jita? Marmite Toast > i can travel aswel Unabridged > is it in safe space right now? Marmite Toast > yeah Marmite Toast > its in h-sec atm Marmite Toast > You know its only worth 150m right? Unabridged > sure.. Unabridged > so just contract it to me Marmite Toast > ok Unabridged > set a private auction to my corp Unabridged > you know how to do that? Marmite Toast > you want it to be contracted to you? Marmite Toast > to your corp right Unabridged > yeah Marmite Toast > ill do item exchange Unabridged > why not an auction? Marmite Toast > ive never done one before only item exchange Marmite Toast > ill do auction cant be that much different Unabridged > auction has a cheaper transfer fee on my part Marmite Toast > ok Unabridged > its the same as a item ex except you set auction on top Marmite Toast > so in name you want "Una Trading" Unabridged > buyout = 250m and starting bid is 1m so the taxes are cheap Unabridged > yes Una Trading Marmite Toast > ok the contract is set Unabridged > thanks for being scammed bye Marmite Toast > LOL Marmite Toast > n1 Unabridged > ? Marmite Toast > dude thats all my money :'( Unabridged > :( Marmite Toast > ill buy it back off you for 100m Unabridged > nah Unabridged > I actually have a use for it Unabridged > on my mains dread Marmite Toast > fair enough Marmite Toast > which alliance are you with? Unabridged > no allaince Unabridged > hate allainces Marmite Toast > you with october snow? Unabridged > no Unabridged > lol Unabridged > I hate those**s Marmite Toast > cos if u were ginger magician that woulda made my day Unabridged > no Unabridged > If i was a gm I would ban them all Marmite Toast > so your not in bob then Unabridged > nope Unabridged > my corp is helping kill BOB though Marmite Toast > same here Unabridged > the noob corps are rebeling? Marmite Toast > no my main... Marmite Toast > i wish we were Unabridged > ok Unabridged > lol Unabridged > all the velators attack Marmite Toast > man i didnt even get the million thats gotta be the cheapest domi web ever Unabridged > no Unabridged > lol you will in 2 days Unabridged > i just got 10x dragonflys to Marmite Toast > so you can make a living on doing that Unabridged > yeah Marmite Toast > dont you feel like a ** doing it? Unabridged > 11b so far Marmite Toast > man Marmite Toast > i have 300k left Marmite Toast > can i join you corp Marmite Toast > :P Unabridged > noes Unabridged > onle me My main has been playing for around two years and I thought the fixed scamming after the latest update so if ccp wont refund me ill be cancelling my contract witht them. Mainly due to the cheating dev but this pushed me over the limit.
Ghan Tylous Caldari The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:52:00 - [2] Its allowed to scam people. You can't get it back and take it as a experience. Think twice before accepting something. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many
Fenrec Deac Malkalen Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:14:00 - [3] Your chances to get it back are : 0 Sorry for you ... hope you learned your lesson. If not .. Never do : Personal Auction with low starting bid to "avoid taxes". Free Contracts
Asinia Au Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:51:00 - [4] Please pardon the noobish questions, but I want to make sure I understand this scam. Is it a scam becuase the buyer makes a bid at the start bid price and then since no other bid will be made it ends up selling at the start bid price? As the auctioner, is there no opportunity to cancel an auction once it has been set up? Anyway, really sorry to hear you were scammed Marmite, I hope you won't let this push you from the game.
Sandeep	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:04:00 - [5] You won't see this after next Revelation upgrade patch. They are disabling private outside corp contract and numerous other stuff. Many people are unfamiliar with the new system and lack firm common sense. Why putting up an auction when you can do item exchange? Why enter 1 mil in any box when you have agreed for 100 mil (examples)? ----- Press F1 to continue.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Marmite Toast My main has been playing for around two years and I thought the fixed scamming after the latest update so if ccp wont refund me ill be cancelling my contract witht them. Mainly due to the cheating dev but this pushed me over the limit. No Eve-O patch or fix will stop you being gullible, so blaming CCP is pointless. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:38:00 - [7] a. Why is this in new citizens Q&A? b. There's been so many threads about this scam - why are people still falling for it? c. Don't blame CCP for your own mistakes d. Don't clog up the petition queue with crap I think that covers it.
Demonic Embrace	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:20:00 - [8] Firstly, for all you idiots flaming this guy, there is no instructions for the contract system on what things to avoid. It is new and it is being abused. Scamming certainly has gone too far in this game, especially with the ability to get RL currency out of the isk you scam from people. EvE is going down hill with the dumb **** that people, and even GMs, are getting away with. It's nice to see what CCP thinks of the new players who are just trying to learn the game. It's a shame really.
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Demonic Embrace Firstly, for all you idiots flaming this guy, there is no instructions for the contract system on what things to avoid. It is new and it is being abused. Scamming certainly has gone too far in this game, especially with the ability to get RL currency out of the isk you scam from people. EvE is going down hill with the dumb **** that people, and even GMs, are getting away with. It's nice to see what CCP thinks of the new players who are just trying to learn the game. It's a shame really. a. Stop being abusive b. He's not a new player c. Contract system is not new either d. As previously stated, theres loads of threads about this scam on the forums. Or maybe the OP is one of those people who never reads the forums, except to whine about their own lack of knowledge. e. Its up to YOU to protect yourself from scams. CCP is not your mother
Fenrec Deac Malkalen Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Demonic Embrace Firstly, for all you idiots flaming this guy, there is no instructions for the contract system on what things to avoid. It is new and it is being abused. Scamming certainly has gone too far in this game, especially with the ability to get RL currency out of the isk you scam from people. EvE is going down hill with the dumb ** that people, and even GMs, are getting away with. It's nice to see what CCP thinks of the new players who are just trying to learn the game. It's a shame really. Originally by:** Marmite Toast My main has been playing for around two years ... enough said ..
Marmite Toast	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:03:00 - [11] Edited by: Marmite Toast on 04/03/2007 15:01:59 There is no tutorial for the contract system CCP just dont bother there too busy giving out t2 bpo's to there alliances to take the game out of beta. Yes ive played for two years but Ive never had anything to do with contract system, ive pnly ever needed to repro my t1 items and I keep all my other items. I only used direct trade and wish id carried on that trend since CCP leave gaps in there system to be exploited.
Marmite Toast	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:06:00 - [12] Edited by: Marmite Toast on 04/03/2007 15:02:29 double post
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:21:00 - [13] Oh stop it with the bitter BPO nonsense and trying to blame your mistakes on others. You fell for an auction scam that's been around for ages, because you chose to ignore the many threads about it over the past few months. If someone tried it on me, I'd laugh at them. Why? Because I use the available information to protect myself. If people like you didn't fall for this stuff, the scammers wouldn't bother trying it. Therefore, it is actually your fault that these scams exist, and you are the reason that I have to put up with people trying these lame scams on me. I'll forgive you - just stop posting rubbish and move on.
Amberly Coteaz Amarr Null Horizon	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Marmite Toast Unabridged > ill give you 250m for the web if its in h-sec Marmite Toast > You know its only worth 150m right? Unabridged > cough but im about to scam it off you cough Unabridged > sure... Really, I mean if you were selling it for a normal price I could almost understand you falling for that due to: a)Not being familier with the contract system and b)Only ever going on the forums to whine and not read up on what people are doing. But someone offering 66% more then what an item is worth at a selling price with a pretty decent margin, should make every single "It's a scam" alarm bell ringing. Ah well crap happens. On a compleatly unrelated note, it's that time of year for the national wallet self-audit. I am one of the unfortunate few who's task it is to check a small percentage of the countries wallets to make sure everything is in order and people are filling out the self-audit forms correctly. Please send your wallet and all its contents to: All ur monies R belong to me audit centre 123 Crook Street Chavtown Scamland L42 FAP
GayLord seriously	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:32:00 - [15] On a compleatly unrelated note, it's that time of year for the national wallet self-audit. I am one of the unfortunate few who's task it is to check a small percentage of the countries wallets to make sure everything is in order and people are filling out the self-audit forms correctly. Please send your wallet and all its contents to: All ur monies R belong to me audit centre 123 Crook Street Chavtown Scamland L42 FAP Its in the post !
Valkazm Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:32:00 - [16] your main has a dread and your whining in the new citizens section .. lame .. Step into the darkness
Baka Lakadaka	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:21:00 - [17] I am new to Eve (6-7 weeks old) and didn't know about this one. So I'm glad it got highlighted in the New Citizens forum.....having done some research it does look like this scam has been around a while and we all need to be wary. I'll certainly be very careful before doing any sort of contract or exchange. I'll continue with my RL motto - if something looks too good to be true....it probably is.
Marmite Toast	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Valkazm your main has a dread and your whining in the new citizens section .. lame .. My main hasnt got a dread :/
Marmite Toast	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Amberly Coteaz Originally by: Marmite Toast Unabridged > ill give you 250m for the web if its in h-sec Marmite Toast > You know its only worth 150m right? Unabridged > cough but im about to scam it off you cough Unabridged > sure... Really, I mean if you were selling it for a normal price I could almost understand you falling for that due to: a)Not being familier with the contract system and b)Only ever going on the forums to whine and not read up on what people are doing. But someone offering 66% more then what an item is worth at a selling price with a pretty decent margin, should make every single "It's a scam" alarm bell ringing. Ah well crap happens. On a compleatly unrelated note, it's that time of year for the national wallet self-audit. I am one of the unfortunate few who's task it is to check a small percentage of the countries wallets to make sure everything is in order and people are filling out the self-audit forms correctly. Please send your wallet and all its contents to: All ur monies R belong to me audit centre 123 Crook Street Chavtown Scamland L42 FAP Afew weeks ago someone offered and bought a faction mod for 150% of what it was worth so yes I was inclined to believe him. Ive been scammed fair and square but I hopefully wont be so retarded the next time.
Shanur	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:27:00 - [20] Morale of the story, never ever leave an opening in any of your dealings that COULD be used to rip you off. Whether that is a high collateral for a trivially looking mission (either you won't have docking rights or there is a "surprise" waiting for you at one of the chokepoint gates to it), a trade in a specific location in space(pirates) or anything else that looks lucrative, but requires you to put some trust in a complete stranger. As a rule of thumb, sadly, no one can be trusted in EVE until they prove otherwise.

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