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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 19:44:39 -
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Good day. I'm one of old EVE fans.
And last update Citadel worry me. Trends telling me, what main point is on big alliances, not on solo players or small corporations.
And i'd like to offer add more content which is available and fun for everyone.
I want to see a PVP contest arena in EVE, with free fair fights for all, and with titles\pvp ranks and rates on fights.
For every ship class from frigat to mothership.
It will give clear pvp statistics for balance improvement and give lot of fun for players with any income.
Instead of lottery in trade hubs players can set rates on PVP fights.
And existing bounty hunter system give more fun and become more challenging if PVP contest winner with prize have bounty for oponent head. And I bet it require less resurses than Citadel. |
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
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Posted - 2016.06.20 19:49:23 -
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You have no Moustache, your idea is therefore worthless.
Features and ideas section is where all the feature and ideas players want to suggest should go to. This idea has been suggested there alot. Go take a read of that section of the forum and see if you have anything to add to the discussions already there. x
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Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
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Posted - 2016.06.20 19:51:16 -
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An arena would be nice. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:00:11 -
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Don't mind me, I'm just going to camp out here and enjoy the coming posts by vets on this one.
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Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:05:55 -
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Hello OP,
for a discussion about your idea look up the term "dojo" on the forums.
The short version is that the idea of instanced pvp, which is what I believe you are suggesting since you used the term "fair fights", received a lot of criticism. One of the points of critique being that "sandpark" doesn't actually work outside of marketing brochures. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:20:17 -
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New eden is an arena.
I have been very vocal on this topic when it was tabled as a goodbye troll from an outgoing dev some time ago and that episode of
Flaming-pants-on-head hysteria is still on record if you care to look for it.
Dojo something or other and i belive its archived in F&I.
To be brief ,
No.
To elaborate a little on that ,
**** No, and **** off.
Better the Devil you know.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:22:40 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
To be brief ,
No.
To elaborate a little on that ,
**** No, and **** off.
This too.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:40:05 -
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Violet Hurst wrote:Hello OP,
received a lot of criticism.
Well unfair arena receive a lot more criticism imho. |
MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:48:47 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:New eden is an arena.
If you don't like some, don't use it, that will help. |
Soel Reit
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Posted - 2016.06.20 20:52:18 -
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fair fights 
into 2k16
in EVE
fair fights
amen
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:12:34 -
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I'm glad that at least someone does not rush at me with a pitchfork.
I know a lot of other games, which have even different stats only for arena fair pvp, not like ingame unit stats.
And please understand, I'm not asking change what EVE have. I'm asking to add something what EVE don't have
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:14:17 -
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Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:You have no Moustache, your idea is therefore worthless.
This, a thousand times this.
No moustache, no diggity
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:17:27 -
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Arena ... LOL!! Bounty system .... LOL!!!!
You kids out there should realize. This place has been here for going on fourteen years. There isn't a buzzer or bell we don't already know about (DDO/WoW/SWTOR). If you like those things, go where they do those things. Some things aren't done here for the simple fact that
SOME THINGS AREN'T DONE HERE
Either get a map, or get a clue. 
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:18:13 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:I'm glad that at least someone does not rush at me with a pitchfork.
I know a lot of other games, which have even different stats only for arena fair pvp, not like ingame unit stats.
And please understand, I'm not asking change what EVE have. I'm asking to add something what EVE don't have
But you are asking for a change. If we had arenas, people start to sign up for them instead of roaming freely. This means there are less people to fight in PvP roams, which means less people roam and more people use arenas, becuase at least they get SOME kind of fight. This process happens over and over until the only practical way to get a fight that isn't ganking a hauler or miner (and let's be realistic, those aren't fights anyway) is to jump into an arena.
It's changing a fundamental aspect of the game.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:40:00 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:MaxaOhbka wrote: less people roam and more people use arenas
I'm not so pessimistic. I think more people actually come in eve because of it. [quote=Sonya Corvinus][quote=MaxaOhbka] It's changing a fundamental aspect of the game.
Well, some one tell me even what it will change EVE in moba games direction. And I'm telling you, if that bring peaples from moba games in EVE. HELL YES! |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:51:28 -
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We'll fight under the bridges, we'll fight on undocks, we'll fight in roid fields and around the gates! We'll fight on the forums and we'll fight on reddit, we'll fight over karma and we'll fight over kill mails; we'll blob with dirty forum alts and we'll fight over likes!!! We fon't need an arena we've got all New Eden and, if it isn't enough,the rest of the Internet!!!
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:56:36 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:I'm not so pessimistic. I think more people actually come in eve because of it.
Well, some one tell me even what it will change EVE in moba games direction.
And I'm telling you, if that bring peaples from moba games in EVE. HELL YES!
More of the wrong kind of players is the opposite of a good thing |
MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 22:03:01 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:More of the wrong kind of players is the opposite of a good thing
Yes, not for me and not for you. More peapl in EVE - more money, more money - stronger project.
Why do you think CCP made free DUST? |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.06.20 22:44:40 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:Yes, not for me and not for you. More peapl in EVE - more money, more money - stronger project.
Why do you think CCP made free DUST?
"Try to do everything for everyone and you give nothing to no one"
You've never run a business, have you? Find your niche and stick with it. |
Pandora Carrollon
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Posted - 2016.06.20 22:54:55 -
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No such thing as a fair fight in EVE. By definition a fair fight would be entirely accidental since most fights are started by someone who thinks they have it all over on the other guy.
The only fair fight in existence would be same ship, same configuration, same everything, coming in from a distance and 'go'. In SFB this was called 'The Captains Game' and it was pretty fun until you realized that you were all roughly as good as each other and unless someone pulled off a master stroke, it came down to sheer luck.
So, while this all sounds good, it's actually better to treat LoSec systems as your 'arena' and go do your dastardly deeds there. You can try NullSec but...
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.06.20 22:59:56 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I have been very vocal on this topic when it was tabled as a goodbye troll from an outgoing dev some time ago and that episode of
Flaming-pants-on-head hysteria is still on record if you care to look for it.
Dojo something or other and i belive its archived in F&I.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:13:45 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:
"Try to do everything for everyone and you give nothing to no one"
You've never run a business, have you? Find your niche and stick with it.
Why lots of people so afraid any changes. Anything what does not changes with time, eventually die.
EVE changes to, I only don't like direction.
You see it's all a matter of organization, if arena will work one day at week, will you see changes?
Or if it will work one day at month, will it be so scary?
I do not say how to do it, I'm more talking about that we are missing. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:17:09 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:I want to see a PVP contest arena in EVE The whole universe is a PvP arena, one where fighting dirty is both allowed and encouraged; it makes Mos Eisley look like Paris, in spring.
Quote:with free fair fights for all, If you find yourself in a fair fight in Eve, either you or your opponent screwed up.
Quote:and with titles\pvp ranks and rates on fights. There are hundreds of games with these features, Eve is not one of them, go play one of them.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:34:22 -
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And now 2016 not 2014
Old excuses, if the current system can't allow it, it can be one system with a different game mechanics. |
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:40:39 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:
Why lots of people so afraid any changes. Anything what does not changes with time, eventually die.
EVE changes to, I only don't like direction.
sounds like you are in the wrong game then
MaxaOhbka wrote:
You see it's all a matter of organization, if arena will work one day at week, will you see changes?
Or if it will work one day at month, will it be so scary?
I do not say how to do it, I'm more talking about that we are missing.
The EVE beauty of EVE is the player driven content in the sandbox. If you are missing something set it up. In my alliance we have something similar for fun in events where there was a prize, people would team up two and two, and the teams accept duels with each other (to avoid standing loss if you are in FW), then fight it out with a referee. Find a low activity system and go nuts. We have also done king of the hill style fighting. I don't see why you need CCP support though.... Make a post on the forums and reddit, spam ingame channels get an arena style league up and running if you think it is needed.
Buttomline it has been done in small scale and is possible. So just arrange it. Don't expect CCP to do everything for you.
"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:42:31 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The whole universe is a PvP arena
Not that kind of PVP, there is difference.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:There are hundreds of games with these features, Eve is not one of them
And i don't get it, why so |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:07:26 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The whole universe is a PvP arena Not that kind of PVP, there is difference. The joy of the whole universe being a PvP arena is that you can organise your own tournaments, it's been done in the past and it'll be done again in the future; what you can't do is stop outsiders from interfering in them, and that is by design.
Quote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:There are hundreds of games with these features, Eve is not one of them And i don't get it, why so Because Eve isn't like other games, the majority of games almost exclusively feed you prepackaged content, Eve gives you the tools to create your own in addition to a little prepackaged content. As above if you feel the need to participate in ranked matches with leader-boards etc then by all means go ahead and organise them.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:08:23 -
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sero Hita wrote:sounds like you are in the wrong game then
I'm sorry but i must say, if CCP continue build Citadels and forget about common players, not only me will be disapoited.
sero Hita wrote:In my alliance we have something similar for fun in events where there was a prize
Not only in your alliance, any small corporation can do. It's fun and challenging, people no doubt like that. But it's not even close to big hard contest what it can be. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:14:47 -
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MaxaOhbka wrote:And now 2016 not 2014 Old excuses, if the current system can't allow it, it can be one system with a different game mechanics.
Two years has not changed the core of eve,
yes the barrier for entry is lower than ever but instanced pvp is still as anethema to it now as it was then.
So again ,
No.
Better the Devil you know.
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MaxaOhbka
Congress Sisters of EVE
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:26:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:that you can organise your own tournaments.
I thought that way, and it still give me feeling, what game might be better in this aspect.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Because Eve isn't like other games.
And with arena it will become same as others? |
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