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Davik Kurchek
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:21:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: Davik Kurchek
Originally by: Wizard
I suppose we really should take it as a complement that EVERY corp/aliance in game has needed to blob us to acheive a win in the last 6 months or so , not meant as a brag per'say. .
You mean that time when i killed your 3 man camp and all of you logged in your own bubble doesn't count, heh? 
We had 3 people logg in our own bubble to you?
I honestly have no recollection of this, plz remind me of the time and ships involved? Im getting the impression you yourself killed 3 of us solo?
just ask von ludenberg and hojne, there were 2 intys and 1 dictor, pretty swift in logging out as they popped.  ---
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Diavolu
United Warriors Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:34:00 -
[62]
You say you are a good PVP players but you guys are always in intys and crap ships. We don't fly inty's so it can't be a good fight for you. Next time buy some bigger ships and stop whining in local and forums and we will have a good fight. I think you posted here just to advertize your corp/alliance but you failed. Shame on you.
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Wizard
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Diavolu You say you are a good PVP players but you guys are always in intys and crap ships. We don't fly inty's so it can't be a good fight for you. Next time buy some bigger ships and stop whining in local and forums and we will have a good fight. I think you posted here just to advertize your corp/alliance but you failed. Shame on you.
I was in geddon and corp m8 was in brutix? what bigger ships do you refer to for us to bring?
What crap ships are we flying?
Imsure our lossmails have t2 loot on them also?
Without Reason corp website
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TasmanianX
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:42:00 -
[64]
Edited by: TasmanianX on 03/03/2007 18:39:14
Originally by: Wizard
Anyways im not posting anymore on forum
A Whiner AND a Liar!
Too bad, you got our hopes up.
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Diavolu
United Warriors Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:48:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: Diavolu I was in geddon and corp m8 was in brutix? what bigger ships do you refer to for us to bring?
If all 5 of you were in BS's I assure you we would have had a good fight.
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maihem
TBC Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:53:00 -
[66]
Wizard, TBC always had loads of respect for both you and your Corp. when we saw Without Reason in local we new it was time to get serious unlike those nubs in NOS. But this thread is not casting you in a positive light. do you think UK are playing EVE just for your entertainment and profit? naturally they want you dead, your Corp are notorious for prowling through 0.0 ganking anything and everything you catch at a gate or in a belt. you prey on the careless, the overconfident and the inexperienced. don't be upset that some one is doing what ever it takes to deal with you. it just comes across as whining.
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Nastratu
Minmatar Serefon Creatin
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nastratu on 03/03/2007 19:02:27 It is very simple really. You were there looking for an equal fight. They were there to kill you. Each had own agenda. They have succeeded in theirs. You didn't, so now you think they are lame for not giving you what you want. So is this fair to blame them for it? If you want an equal fight, how about you talk to them and ask for it then? Because anyone with a small grain of reason would understand that alliance patrolling its borders is interested in killing hostiles in most efficient way possible, not having 1vs1's or 3vs3's with them.
Oh an by the way, what are you guys doing sitting camping the system with your little gang waiting for some misfortunate lone pilot to jump into the system if you want a fair fight? I think gate camping goes against your own princiles that you are stating here.
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Maruk Ihnati
Gallente United Warriors Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter U'K always blob, all you gotta do is split them apart and/or outblob them.
Yes, our rifters must be many DHB.
Wizard, please tell me what gave our nano ships away? We tried very hard not to orbit at 15km, and not exeed 1km/s to conceal this. I'm wondering why you didn't jump. It seemd an eternity for me to reach you from 10km away and give the final bump.
I'd sugest EC-P8R for your pvp urges. D2 is away so you can gank in peace.
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Wizard
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Diavolu
Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: Diavolu I was in geddon and corp m8 was in brutix? what bigger ships do you refer to for us to bring?
If all 5 of you were in BS's I assure you we would have had a good fight.
Id like you to put your honesty hat on please.
We had 1 bs, 1 bc , 1 af and an intie ( the dictor was my alt who i jumped out, thought you knew that?)...you brought 3-4 bs and 2 command ships.
IF we had 5 bs for a decent fight then youd of brought 10 bs or a carrier or 2, that is a totally honest opinion of mine which is not meant as a insult.
Without Reason corp website
^^looking for a PvP corp with little stress then
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Diavolu
United Warriors Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:27:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: Nastratu Edited by: Nastratu on 03/03/2007 19:02:27 It is very simple really. You were there looking for an equal fight. They were there to kill you. Each had own agenda. They have succeeded in theirs. You didn't, so now you think they are lame for not giving you what you want. So is this fair to blame them for it? If you want an equal fight, how about you talk to them and ask for it then? Because anyone with a small grain of reason would understand that alliance patrolling its borders is interested in killing hostiles in most efficient way possible, not having 1vs1's or 3vs3's with them.
Oh an by the way, what are you guys doing sitting camping the system with your little gang waiting for some misfortunate lone pilot to jump into the system if you want a fair fight? I think gate camping goes against your own princiles that you are stating here.
PLZ read my replys in there entireity m8.
I think youll find youd end up deleting what youve just wrote.
a) we only camped there for like 10 mins or so while forming up as ive mentioned.
b) The offer has been made to them for a arranged fight.
Are you organizing tourneys now? 
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Ross Sylibus
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:33:00 -
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this thread needs more pics
please forgive wizard, but he's new to whining
statment: im am not SAD, like some guy in local said to me today cuz of these thread
and a thought to UK: please do not use swearwords to initiate smacktalk
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Kai page
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:37:00 -
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hehe lo wizard mate. Know what you mean but thats why we left the area.
Gl
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Kam SingDu'k
Singularity.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:27:00 -
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Hehe no offence mate but if you can find anywhere in eve where it is more than just blobs ftw pls tell me I would like to go there (apart from empire). Alliances find safety in numbers so it is pretty difficult to get an even fight these days let alone avoiding the nano ships. Its a sad fact in eve now but I guess CCP always pushed for alliance warfare rather than small gangs (even though the node cannot handle it).
From other peoples comments I can assume you are a pretty competent pvper so I guess the only thing you can do is to learn to adapt sadly. My corp kinda suffers from the same problem being in 0.0 and rarely getting equal fights... but it just means that when we do, we cherish the moment more.
So keep your head up and search for those great small gang fights 
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Kruugore
Minmatar Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:37:00 -
[74]
F4T4L reputation--
I mean really.
They can use whatever means they want to defend their space.
It's your own fault for going there.
Power to em! :)
Mr. K VIGILANT JUSTICE CEO/FOUNDER EVE Vault, A Great Community |

maihem
TBC Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:37:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: maihem Wizard, TBC always had loads of respect for both you and your Corp. when we saw Without Reason in local we new it was time to get serious unlike those nubs in NOS. But this thread is not casting you in a positive light. do you think UK are playing EVE just for your entertainment and profit? naturally they want you dead, your Corp are notorious for prowling through 0.0 ganking anything and everything you catch at a gate or in a belt. you prey on the careless, the overconfident and the inexperienced. don't be upset that some one is doing what ever it takes to deal with you. it just comes across as whining.
Wow thankyou for your comment, one of the more adult like posts ive read, thankyou.
I know it comes accross as whining but i dont forum ***** and i wear my heart on my sleeve so to speak and am generally quite an honest person.
I could deffinatly be better at articulating myself on the forums, this is very true. Its is a whine.
I just want to pvp
Your quite welcome, we learned some hard lessons from your corp and i honestly think our current success at pvp in CA is due to what we learned from fighting you. cheers
I dont jog, it makes the ice cubes jump right out of my glass. |

Apollyon X
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.03 21:22:00 -
[76]
lol noob got pwned.
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Wizard
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:46:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Wizard on 03/03/2007 22:45:09 Ok the next installment
After getting camped by a thanatos.dreadnaguht and some 15 assorted bs/bc and recons etc from a combined bos/sylph gang just now, id like to add we only had 1 bs, 1 reconn and a few inties. We decide its best to logg off for a little bit aftera few kills of them.
Upon logging back in we manage to catch a syplh straggling raven ( a gank yes but he was split from there main gang so meh ), lo and behold ushra khan come in ( we are 2 jumps from there home system now ).
I think we had my abbadon and like 5 inties, they have rapier,celestis,wolf,crusader,typhoon,raven,hurricane, a couple of others maybe but i dont think they got on my killmail in time Im pretty sure they only lost the rapier and celestis but unfortunatly it took me a fair old time to lock them otherwise im prettty sure thered be a few more dead 
Ill keep everyone updated on the ganks that ensue.
They seem to still be avoiding the even fight 
Without Reason corp website
^^looking for a PvP corp with little stress then |

Tussiex
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:53:00 -
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Now, I think you lost your abbadon as well. 2 ships lost in 4 hours is a good one for the best PVP player in eve. Sorry my smack, but how can you be so noob to be scanned? Make another thread for the abbadon loss whining! :)
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:00:00 -
[79]
I blame Killboards and the killboardwhoring they bring with them.
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Maggot
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:43:00 -
[80]
We will fight you on the battlefield at dawn for the honour of a single kiss from the fair maiden of the castle.
No archers, no pistols, and no platemail.
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Supay
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:57:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: reg keeper I have to admit im ashamed to see Uk stoop to those tactics. Once i was happy to admit that i was there in your time of need and stood face to face against C.O.C.K and others. To see that UK is now going for over kill and nano ships is a shame and will do nothing for there reputation. Wonder if CVA has nano geddons to ram a Mega pulse up your backsides.
Oh wait nano geddons dont work. Cant wait for the holy nerf bat to strike.
Jorg, ah yes the "good" "respcted" iss guys who most the alliance coudnt stand, due to there leech like ways how you ever got to be in fatal is beyound me.
Jorg we wil be comeing for you lot again.
it wil be a please to rob your ships of nice shiny stuf as retributes for your foul aktions and crimes against the homeless
Haha, I was just thinking the same thing, Lilan. When Jorg were in ISS they did nothing but cry and complain the whole time, demanding protection and ISSN to basically wipe their backsides, they could barely manage to deal with an Ibis loaded with civilian gear.
Tbh, this post was just useless. They won, you lost, and if they didn't pull off any slightly dirty tricks like logoffs/logins then you have nothing to whine about. Next time, just make sure you do the killing instead.
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Sarchez
Minmatar Rogues
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:10:00 -
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--Translation-- "Don't gank our ganksquad! How are we ever gonna gank your members, when you do that ? Atleast, tell half your gang to sit afk!!"
I don't know who fatal is, but by the sound of it......
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Monkey Spankah
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:29:00 -
[83]
wizard i've seen you geddon in action, we all know you could of soloed them all, lets stop being graciouse. 
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Zarrika Khan
Caldari No Quarter. Academy
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:44:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Wizard Any time you want a organised even numbers fight we will bring it, im being completely honest here..........
<edit>
...the offer is there a organised even numbers fight against us sometime plz.
Give it your best shot.
Signed your loving wizard.
If I recall correctly this is done every 6 months or so... it's called an 'Alliance Tournement' in which you get even numbers and odds for the most part. Closet thing to a 'fair fight' you are going to get in EVE so sign up next time.
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Linium
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:52:00 -
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When i joined W--R i was specifically looking for a bunch of guys who wanted to pvp with no smack, no unfair tactics and griefing. Anyone can gank a hauler and i wasn't loooking for that at all. W--R simply want to pvp, we only ever camp in the hope of killing a few carebears to make isk. Killing a hauler does not get our hearts racing, Our real goal is to fight fair and fight mean. On this particular occasion we were chilling having a few laughs, we encounter 2 UK bs and expect a gank squad behind them, we engage anyway. 2bs vs 1bs, 1bc and 2 frigs seem fair to us. Uk seem to deem it nessesary to blob beyond all expectations. Whenever UK see that we have 2 bs, maybe a dictor and maybe a inty they know thats all we have, we are a small corp and i have never been in W--R gang bigger than 8 people (Look us up in game). Yet they seem to think droping a cyno field and a 10 man bs gang on us makes it fair???? Like wiz and the others small gang pvp is my thing, we never speak about a hauler gank that happened last week, we often speak about a fair fight which we found and had good fun winning or even loosing No one in W--R thinks providence is the epitome of PVP, its a **** hole tbh, but local to us. I offered UK a 5v5 bs fight and there where not particularly forth coming in accepting it, win or lose we would have some respect for our enemys. Wizards real moan is in the gank warefare that is deemed nessarsary these days, none of our numbers are power gamers, we play for fun and thats what we look for in fights. W--R are in no way forums *****s who moan for the sake of moaning, feel free to search the forums for our posts................. if you ever meet a fairer PVPer than the OP tell me as i would be interested in meeting them.
Thank you
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Zarrika Khan
Caldari No Quarter. Academy
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:15:00 -
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I can completely understand the feel of a fair fight, good fight among non-smack PvP'ers.. best feeling in the game. Squad to small wing level ones are particularly fun as there is typically no lag for everyone and therefore actuall 'fun' may be had for all.
Those kinds of encounters will be hard to find on a regular basis because as you said.. everyone wants to win without losing their own toys it seems.
The old rule of fly what you can afford or at least willing to loose in any fight. I say 'any fight' as they may not be fair so if you can afford to fly your HAC and loose it.. fight for fun even if you loose your HAC. The idea is to have fun fighting and playing EVE regardless of the outcome of the fight. At least it is for me.
For the record, I would like a fair fight as well.. but I do not ever expect one.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:18:00 -
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I have played with the Wizard in prov, hunting him and running from him and his sexy lady friend in the Anathema.
I have to say he is a good sport, and does not smack in local...oh and yeah he is a very dangerous BS pilot
However, two things 
First :If you think nano ships are uber and have the advantage...then why not learn to fly one..this game has shifting goalposts 
Second:..if trying to run raids on hostile alliance space has got too hot for you, then try a different region.
I am not mocking you, as you probably know...my corp raided NOS space for fun, we ganked, we were chased by alliance fleets, and it ended up in a large fleet battle It was all good fun, the close escapes and the cheeky kills while we were running 
Thing is..they get used to your name, they see you in local..and set up a big squad for you. Take it as a compliment. Hunt elsewhere..then sneak back when they dont expect it 
Here are my efforts in prov: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0611/prov.mpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0611/prov2.mpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0611/prov3.mpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0611/S9XBattle.mpg
In one week of ganking...we caused them to change leader and rethink allies.
But now if I go there...I can expect a 10man gank squad waiting for my shuttle 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Dawn Princess
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:19:00 -
[88]
every time i saw u guys before you moved in with fatal it was running little gank squads around YM- killing haulers and solo pilots so excuse me if i dont get all upset that people are not giving you "fair fights".
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Linium
Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Linium on 04/03/2007 01:31:35 Wizard isnt moaning at the loss of his BS................god i've seen him lose many lol (sry wiz). If you take your ship to 0.0 there is a good chance of losing it. Its the gank warfare that he and our corp are sick of. We have been fighting in all fronts with our privateer wardec and F4T4L siege which brought a smile to out faces. Its difficult to expect fair numbers from anyone, we all want to win? Not for us, we want to have fun and its the this blobing thats holding us and other corps back from finding their goal....FUN. We are not a threat to UK, we are not sticking up POS in there systems and camping them into their station. They hold the 9UY station and the gift that ISS gave them. NOT providence as a whole. I actully personally have respect to UK for being able to hold that system and even claiming it in the first place (lots of gates and moons, plex and its in providence) but your guardians of providence uniforms makes you look silly with those dreadlocks you all have. Grow some balls UK. ----------------------------------------------------
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.04 02:08:00 -
[90]
"You waaaant it aaaall but you can't haaaave it."
As this is clearly *not* an epic thread, I thought I'd quote an Epic song.
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