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googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:43:00 - [1] is it possible for a brutix to rat in 0.0 decently. If it is can i have some ideas because im stuck?
kill0rbunny Chimera Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:55:00 - [2] High: Rails Meds: Caprecharge Lows: Tank. It is not that hard is it. You'd be better off with a myrmidon, it's a great ratter. Killboard
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:58:00 - [3] sure ill go with a mymr. but u would have to flow me 20mil
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:48:00 - [4] Brutix Hi-slots 3x 250mm Prototype Gauss Guns 3x 150mm 'Scouts' 1x Medium Nos I Med-slots 1x Y-S8 Hyrdrocarbon I AB 1x 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I 1x Large F-4A LD-Sulfate I Capacitor Charge Unit 1x F-B10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Lo-slots 1x Medium Armour Repper II 3x Armour Hardners (rat specific) 1x Pseudoelectrib Containment Field I (DCU) Replace named stuff with what you can afford, it did me proud as I worked up to a myrm.
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:04:00 - [5] Thanks Jon Asus for being descriptive.
Billy Hardcore	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:10:00 - [6] try a fitting with 200mm rails, forget about 150mm, they kinda blow :/
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:23:00 - [7] ok thanks
Segmentor Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:49:00 - [8] Pfft. Rails suck. 6x Heavy Ions 1x Medium NOS 1x 10mn MWD 1x x5 Web 2x Named Cap Rechargers 1x MAR II 1x SAR II 3x Rat-Specific Hardeners 5x Hammerhead IIs MWD close in, switch it off and orbit the battleships at 500m. ---
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:12:00 - [9] thanks for great ideas
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:40:00 - [10] how this Brutix Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Medium Nosferatu I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Armor Explosive Hardener I Armor Kinetic Hardener I Armor Thermic Hardener I Power Diagnostic System I Medium Armor Repairer I Rigs : Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \ Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II 4062 shield, 8.78/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 5054 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/67/67/55 1828.1249329447746 cap, +11.31/s, -44.046/s 926.0 m/s 143.3 DPS
D Mackiller Minmatar Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:16:00 - [11] Originally by: googsies how this Brutix Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [69xAntimatter Charge M] Medium Nosferatu I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Armor Explosive Hardener I Armor Kinetic Hardener I Armor Thermic Hardener I Power Diagnostic System I Medium Armor Repairer I Rigs : Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \ Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II 4062 shield, 8.78/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 5054 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/67/67/55 1828.1249329447746 cap, +11.31/s, -44.046/s 926.0 m/s 143.3 DPS The highs look good, but try using some named guns. I'm not sure if the web is necessary, your drones should hit the frigs easily enough. The armor rep should be T2, the 50% more rep amount really helps. The hardeners should be rat specific damage types - if you're fighting serpentis, use 2x thermal and 1x kinetic hardeners. The PDS shouldn't really be necessary, swap that out for either a cap relay or small rep II.
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:34:00 - [12] I need the pds to fit everything. I tried fitting a MAR II but it didnt fit. Thanks for the advice on the hardners.
Altrex Stoppel SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:25:00 - [13] Originally by: googsies I need the pds to fit everything. I tried fitting a MAR II but it didnt fit. Thanks for the advice on the hardners. Drop a few blasters to electrons then till your skills are better I'd recommend
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:07:00 - [14] sure ill try that.
Batelle	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:22:00 - [15] 6 named ion blasters with AM. Try limited. 1 med nos (best you can get) ------------------------------ y-T8 overcharged mwd webber(it helps alot, even against big ships) 2 eutectic cap rechargers --------------- mar II 3 rat specific hardeners beta reactor control cpr or beta reactor control power diag unit. --------------- t2 whatever med drones ------------------ should handle all but the hardest triple BS spawns. I would advise BC lvl 4. if you're fighting npcs that use guns, orbit them so they dont hit you. I wouldn't fly this against difficult angel BS spawns. and tougher gursta's use missiles, so you can't orbit them to make them miss. Myrmidon will serve you better.
googsies	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:04:00 - [16] Edited by: googsies on 05/03/2007 01:00:50 thanks batelle
benzss Gallente Circular Destiny's	Posted - 2007.03.07 15:22:00 - [17] Fitting rails on a Brutix usually ends in tears. Go with blasters, it's much more suited to it.
Crusix Bargoth Amarr Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.07 16:01:00 - [18] what about a passive defense warfare link? couple that with your repper bonus, and you have one gigantic and rather nasty armor tank. 6x blasters (whatever fits) 1x Armor Warfare Link - Passive defense (10% resist bonus at level 5) 1x MWD 1x Booster 2x what you please 1x medium armor rep 1x DCU II 1x Nano addaptive II 1x Energized/faction reactive plate 1x Energized/faction addaptive plate Hows that for 0.0 ratting? gives you all your firepower of normal, but that extra gnarlyness with your tank, things just aren't gonna hurt when your 74 explo resist turns into 81... Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar nerf ponies!!1one
Flitz Farseeker Gallente Eve guardians	Posted - 2007.03.07 16:15:00 - [19] I'm happily ratting in 0.0 with a rail Brutix. However, I do tend to avoid multiple, high bounty BS spawns if I'm on my own as it just takes too long to break their tank. But even though I am only taking on the spawns with up to 1-2 lower bounty BS, I am raking in the iskies.
Aaron Mirrorsaver	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:54:00 - [20] what sort of bounty do you get from a bs spawn?
El'Tar Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver what sort of bounty do you get from a bs spawn? They vary, from 500k to 1.9 mil or so per BS, depending where you are.
Jas Dor Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Crusix Bargoth what about a passive defense warfare link? couple that with your repper bonus, and you have one gigantic and rather nasty armor tank. 6x blasters (whatever fits) 1x Armor Warfare Link - Passive defense (10% resist bonus at level 5) 1x MWD 1x Booster 2x what you please 1x medium armor rep 1x DCU II 1x Nano addaptive II 1x Energized/faction reactive plate 1x Energized/faction addaptive plate Hows that for 0.0 ratting? gives you all your firepower of normal, but that extra gnarlyness with your tank, things just aren't gonna hurt when your 74 explo resist turns into 81... Can you explane this to me a bit? I thought a warfare link gave a bonus to the other ships and your gang but not yourself? Also um aren't all resists bonus's stacking nerfed together (except DCU's) so if you put on Energized and non Energized plating there's no extra benefit? Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU!
Crusix Bargoth Amarr Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.09 03:02:00 - [23] the links fall under the same rules as DCU's, granted this isn't for solo ratting, use the BC as its ment to be used, as a squadron leader :). But, for 0.0 ratting your ship should be ready for pvp on the fly, fitting only rat hardeners gets you crushed when some one warps in on you. And, the DCU+Link are basicly an adaptive hardener. Just tossing out ideas, but it works for me :) Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar nerf ponies!!1one

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