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Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 16:08:02 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP, You have longed to move people deeply dependent on NPC station and their economy to a more player driven aspect for the game. You made Citadels, and while it's a step in the right direction, their implementation is on going. I'm not sure how you planned it all to go down, but I'm not sure you realize the power you now hold over the denizens of New Eden. You introduced the Docking/Undocking camera in the latest patch. If you were to make that camera mandatory for NPC stations and optional for Citadels I'm convinced a vast majority of players would use Citadels instead. You now have a means to accomplish something you've wanted to do for years. Get to it. Just my two isk. Hitori Edit: P.S.- If I've outed your conspiracy by accident, you have my apologies.
Pax Deltari NPC Corp Worst Corp No Doubt 65	Posted - 2016.06.30 16:33:26 - [2] - Quote Don't end your posts with your name. It's literally right there to the left of it.
Amnika MonSulu Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.06.30 16:39:03 - [3] - Quote Pax Deltari wrote: Don't end your posts with your name. It's literally right there to the left of it. Seriously, who ends their post with their name? And really, I think they would be best served to crash the Jita market if they wanted to get everyone into Citadels. Bob
Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 16:42:53 - [4] - Quote Pax Deltari wrote: Don't end your posts with your name. It's literally right there to the left of it. Perhaps it escaped your attention that the post is written in what is known as a Letter format. A letter was something that back in the old days was put in an envelope and mailed through a post office to correspond with someone. Proper letter etiquette was to sign your name at the bottom. Perhaps you are just too young to know what a letter is, or maybe you just wanted to be snide, either way I hope you have learned something.
Roci Nantes Spongeworks Ltd. Snuggle Struggle. 12	Posted - 2016.06.30 16:54:37 - [5] - Quote As a "newer" player I have a legit question of why people care? I've never seen a reason that they should be removed that didn't involve someone laughing like a maniac, slobbering at all the ways they could rip off, and mess with other players.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 10145	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:04:42 - [6] - Quote Roci Nantes wrote: As a "newer" player I have a legit question of why people care? I've never seen a reason that they should be removed that didn't involve someone laughing like a maniac, slobbering at all the ways they could rip off, and mess with other players. Uhhhhh... that is kind of the entire point of the game. Even as a newbie you have some power to do what you described (hint: social skills). How did you Veterans start? The Mustache and Beard Thread
Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 2	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:12:30 - [7] - Quote Roci Nantes wrote: As a "newer" player I have a legit question of why people care? I've never seen a reason that they should be removed that didn't involve someone laughing like a maniac, slobbering at all the ways they could rip off, and mess with other players. Maybe my title is a bit misleading. Removing NPC Stations isn't entirely possible. However removing the centralized trade hubs is, and it's something CCP wanted to do. You will always need NPC stations because any player owned station has a glaring fault. What if the player quits EVE? Suddenly everyhting in the station shuts down due to lack of maintenance. If there isn't another Citadel in the system where does everyone's stuff go? That's why you need NPC stations. I maybe should have called the thread Decentralizing trade hubs and player reliance on NPC stations.
Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 2	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:14:55 - [8] - Quote Hitori Tenchi wrote: Roci Nantes wrote: As a "newer" player I have a legit question of why people care? I've never seen a reason that they should be removed that didn't involve someone laughing like a maniac, slobbering at all the ways they could rip off, and mess with other players. Maybe my title is a bit misleading. Removing NPC Stations isn't entirely possible. However, removing the centralized trade hubs is, and it's something CCP wanted to do. You will always need NPC stations because any player owned station has a glaring fault. What if the player quits EVE? Suddenly everyhting in the station shuts down due to lack of maintenance. If there isn't another Citadel in the system where does everyone's stuff go? That's why you need NPC stations. I maybe should have called the thread Decentralizing trade hubs and removing player reliance on NPC stations.
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 316	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:27:38 - [9] - Quote Gunpoint Diplomacy Somewhere in space 30/06/16 Dear Hitori Tenchi, I write to you this letter, because of you latest remarks regarding letter format on forums. Letter format is a formality used in the real world to represent a sense of professionalism. However, in the world of video games and video game forums, the format makes little sense. Forums are a place for informal discussions and banter. In addition to the informal nature of forums, all posts are attached with the information regarding the creator. So in conclusion, ending your post with your name/signature is still dumb. I hope you still will enjoy your interaction on the forums and may you have a wonderful day. Sincerely, Maekchu
Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 2	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:34:52 - [10] - Quote Maekchu wrote: Gunpoint Diplomacy Somewhere in space 30/06/16 Dear Hitori Tenchi, I write to you this letter, because of you latest remarks regarding letter format on forums. Letter format is a formality used in the real world to represent a sense of professionalism. However, in the world of video games and video game forums, the format makes little sense. Forums are a place for informal discussions and banter. In addition to the informal nature of forums, all posts are attached with the information regarding the creator. So in conclusion, ending your post with your name/signature is still dumb. I hope you still will enjoy your interaction on the forums and may you have a wonderful day. Sincerely, Maekchu I'm afraid you're mistaken. There are many letter format types. Ranging from professional to friendly. There many forums that are professional, and not just informal. I do get your point however., thanks for joining the fray. Your irony is not wasted.

Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 316	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:40:23 - [11] - Quote I just missed a golden joke. Instead of writting "Somewhere in space", I should have written "Next to you in a cloaky Proteus". Damn :(
Roci Nantes Spongeworks Ltd. Snuggle Struggle. 12	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:41:42 - [12] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Roci Nantes wrote: As a "newer" player I have a legit question of why people care? I've never seen a reason that they should be removed that didn't involve someone laughing like a maniac, slobbering at all the ways they could rip off, and mess with other players. Uhhhhh... that is kind of the entire point of the game. Even as a newbie you have some power to do what you described (hint: social skills). Is it? I think it is fair to say player vs player interaction is the point of the game but that doesn't have to be destructive. I can promise you there are large portions of the player base that don't actively want to 50 v 1 roflstomp everyone in a rookie ship. I think some of the creative ways people choose to attack other players is amazing, in this game. Tracking, planning and the logistics to organize people into a group and strike a target, even in highsec, is impressive and they deserve those kills. I can see some fun in not having the major trade hubs, but I think they can kill that with nothing more than taxes. Make it considerably less profitable to sell in a station and it will force most of the money mongers to find a new place. If someone comes in and undercuts your market, well time to break out the war-machine and remove them.
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2868	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:47:31 - [13] - Quote NPC stations are not gonna go away, however outpost will eventually OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 109	Posted - 2016.06.30 17:58:52 - [14] - Quote I support this product and or service. I also support removing NPC stations post haste. I'll just join up with whichever large wardeccing entity finally gets to claim sov in high sec once the dust clears o7
Pax Deltari NPC Corp Worst Corp No Doubt 66	Posted - 2016.06.30 18:25:50 - [15] - Quote Hitori Tenchi wrote: Perhaps you are just too young to know what a letter is, or maybe you just wanted to be snide, either way I hope you have learned something. Lol Eve Online - Where being young is an insult.
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate 1917	Posted - 2016.06.30 18:46:12 - [16] - Quote Removing NPC stations... oh i can see the backlash Akrasjel Lanate Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate Executor of Naquatech Syndicate Citizen of Solitude
Eli Stan Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 539	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:45:37 - [17] - Quote Removing NPC stations and stargates in favor of player-built deployables such as citadels, stargates, mining platforms, etc., is a dream CCP has. If they do that, I hope they also remove NPC security services such as CONCORD, gate/station guns, customs officers and navies. I mean, they want everything to be player-based, right?
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 340	Posted - 2016.07.01 00:47:51 - [18] - Quote Dear Hitori, There are a LOT of people who say a LOT of things then claim it's absolute GOSPEL fact. Asking CCP about what these people say isn't a real good idea. You should ask THEM why they say what they say. Fred PS "PS" doesn't get periods. It's just "PS". If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Aiwha Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore 1191	Posted - 2016.07.01 02:04:39 - [19] - Quote While they may trim down the number of NPC stations a bit, they exist for newer players who don't have the means to put down their own citadels. - Aiwha, Savior of the Spacemarshes, Grandmaster of Disaster, Lord of the Dance, MD, Ph.D, SVC, TRA, NPC, XYZ esq. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Knitram Relik Running With Railguns 59	Posted - 2016.07.01 02:41:58 - [20] - Quote Threw major sticking point for this is where would the agents go?

W33b3l Conquest and Kittens 104	Posted - 2016.07.01 02:43:38 - [21] - Quote If they managed to get rid of the centralized trade hubs, new ones would just form on there own nearby somewhere else. So pointless. OMFG... just pictured there not being any NPC stations at all and how freaking crazy it would be with a corp owned citadel that replaced Jita lol. Although from a gameplay not to mention server hardware standpoint, thats type of stuff should only happen in SOV space.
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 143	Posted - 2016.07.01 03:03:07 - [22] - Quote Knitram Relik wrote: Threw major sticking point for this is where would the agents go? agents in space or people could put agents in citadels. I believe i read something about being able to have agents in citadels being a possible future upgrade.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1755	Posted - 2016.07.01 06:37:24 - [23] - Quote Reply to the OP: you know now why the static station image was removed. "Technical debt", my bottom. A for removal of NPC stations that will never, completely, happen. Where would your stuffGäó go if the citadel around it blew up? Even worse if you left the game for a few month's/years.
Nalia White Tencus 190	Posted - 2016.07.01 16:22:44 - [24] - Quote if they remove the npc stations then they can also remove all the monuments to make the players quit right away instead of letting them shoot monuments in anger first :)
Neadayan Drakhon Heuristic Industrial And Development AddictClan 300	Posted - 2016.07.01 20:30:25 - [25] - Quote Roenok Baalnorn wrote: Knitram Relik wrote: Threw major sticking point for this is where would the agents go? agents in space or people could put agents in citadels. I believe i read something about being able to have agents in citadels being a possible future upgrade. I kinda like the idea of people being able to grind standings with player corps that way :P
Ashlar Maidstone Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 241	Posted - 2016.07.02 01:06:23 - [26] - Quote My Dearest Hitori, I write this letter to ask or more likely inquire, if and I say IF CCP were to remove NPC stations, have you ever thought about the ramifications of all those poor souls who would be homeless floating about in space? As an EvilSpaceNun, my facilities would be just over run with them and no where to put them all, so I ask you out of the kindness of your heart would you be willing to donate to my cause of providing homes for them? Your Truly, Ashlar Maidstone High Priestess of the Loyal Order of the Crimson Moon.


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