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Ori Hunter New Eden Construction Co 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 19:53:28 - [1] - Quote hi pip's have a few accounts and was thinking of coming back but i just noticed that 30 days of play is -ú9.99 in the uk but plex prices are -ú16.99 so im a little confused ?? any help with this as eve site says a plex is the equivalent to a months play with is 30 days ? but not as you can see ?
Cixin Airuta Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 19:56:05 - [2] - Quote When you buy gametime, your account duration is increased by the amount you buy. When you buy PLEX, you gain an ingame item that you can activate to increase your account duration by 30 days or you sell the item on the market, thereby gaining ISK (short of a billion right now). That's where the difference comes from, if you are only interested in a reactivation, just buy the gametime.
Hitori Tenchi BLU3 SHIFTED DRACONIAN COVENANT 3	Posted - 2016.06.30 19:57:45 - [3] - Quote My advice...go with the cheaper solution. There's also a deal going on for a discounted 90 day sub with Mulitple Character Training. So you can train two characters on the same account at the same time. I believe it's around US $40.00 for that.
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 251	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:22:05 - [4] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: hi pip's have a few accounts and was thinking of coming back but i just noticed that 30 days of play is -ú9.99 in the uk but plex prices are -ú16.99 so im a little confused ?? any help with this as eve site says a plex is the equivalent to a months play with is 30 days ? but not as you can see ? If you're low on ISK in game, you can buy a plex and sell it on the market for ISK. If you have too much ISK in game, you can buy a plex on the market and use it to play for a month. Basically never buy a plex with real life money to use for gametime. Only buy it IRL if you want more ISK.
Ori Hunter New Eden Construction Co 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:36:30 - [5] - Quote im not sure you get what i mean.... ccp say its the equivalent of 30 days when its not 30 days are 9.99 and a plex is 16.99 so its clearly not as advertised !!! get my drift :)
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 251	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:38:43 - [6] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: im not sure you get what i mean.... ccp say its the equivalent of 30 days when its not 30 days are 9.99 and a plex is 16.99 so its clearly not as advertised !!! get my drift :) One plex does give you 30 days play time. A plex is an item you can trade to other players in game, a subscription/straight game time isn't tradable in game. You pay extra on the plex for the ability to buy and sell it for ISK in game.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26261	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:42:54 - [7] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: im not sure you get what i mean.... ccp say its the equivalent of 30 days when its not 30 days are 9.99 and a plex is 16.99 so its clearly not as advertised !!! get my drift :) It gives you 30 days game time if you use it for that purpose, working as advertised. PLEX can be used for other purposes though, which makes it a luxury item, and luxury items command premium prices. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
W33b3l Conquest and Kittens 104	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:44:37 - [8] - Quote I have not looked it up in a long time... I thought the minimum you could buy is 2 PLEX, is that what is effecting the price? I know the price of game time and plex changes depending on the country of origin the client is from due to exchange rates. Maybe their data or information is off currently and it should be cheaper? In the USA both a month of game time and the price of one PLEX are about the same if not the same price last time I checked.
aldhura Bartledannians The Ascendancy Protocol 64	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:47:21 - [9] - Quote There is a special offer on now where you buy 90 days game time and you get 90 days "free" MCT - Multi character training. May be worth looking at. Bartledannians Corporation is recruiting
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 251	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:49:30 - [10] - Quote W33b3l wrote: I have not looked it up in a long time... I thought the minimum you could buy is 2 PLEX, is that what is effecting the price? I know the price of game time and plex changes depending on the country of origin the client is from due to exchange rates. Maybe their data or information is off currently and it should be cheaper? In the USA both a month of game time and the price of one PLEX are about the same if not the same price last time I checked. In USD, one plex is $19.95, two or more at onec is $16.99 each. One month gametime is $14.95, down to $10.95/mo if you buy a years subscription, so no matter what it's always cheaper to buy game time than plex. Other countries are fairly similar in those differences.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 547	Posted - 2016.06.30 20:54:33 - [11] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: im not sure you get what i mean.... ccp say its the equivalent of 30 days when its not 30 days are 9.99 and a plex is 16.99 so its clearly not as advertised !!! get my drift :) PLEX = 30 days if used for gametime :. PLEX is equivalent to 30 days You are fixated on the price rather tvs what it actually is. Different products with different price points, but that doesn't change what it provides.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 951	Posted - 2016.06.30 21:00:49 - [12] - Quote The extra cost is for Plex having multiple functions, including in game trade, character re-sculpting, character transfers, AUR trade, etc. Adding subscription through billing is more direct, cost effective, and more convenient way to subbing if that's all you want. "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Ori Hunter New Eden Construction Co 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 21:25:29 - [13] - Quote this is what i mean you cant have the same product/ item for 2 different prices 9.99 divided by 30 days = 0.0333333333333333 per day 16.99 divided by 30 days = 1.700700700700701 per day so you get what im saying now ???
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26261	Posted - 2016.06.30 21:43:37 - [14] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: this is what i mean you cant have the same product/ item for 2 different prices 9.99 divided by 30 days = 0.0333333333333333 per day 16.99 divided by 30 days = 1.700700700700701 per day so you get what im saying now ??? Which bit of a PLEX has more than one use, whereas a subscription only has one are you finding difficult to comprehend? Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Ori Hunter New Eden Construction Co 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 21:57:41 - [15] - Quote as far as i understand plex has one use, adding game time, and it can be sold on the market so one use or did i miss something ?? and it's advertised as equivalent to one months play but if one months play is 9.99 it's clearly not equivalent !!
Kueyen Mei-Ha's Light 127	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:03:00 - [16] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: 9.99 divided by 30 days = 0.0333333333333333 per day 16.99 divided by 30 days = 1.700700700700701 per day EvE must be hard for you, with the Dyscalculia and all... -ú9.99 / 30 days = 0.333 -ú/day -ú16.99 / 30 days = 0.5663 -ú/day Expect it to go up in the future, though, thanks to the "Leave" camp accidentally winning. Also: The many uses of Plex. Until all are free...
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26261	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:16:02 - [17] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: as far as i understand plex has one use, adding game time, and it can be sold on the market so one use That's 2 uses by your own admission. It can also be used for multiple character training, character transfers, character resculpts, exchanged for Aurum, PLEX4Good donations and tickets to fanfest etc. Quote: or did i miss something ?? School, judging by your inability to comprehend basic sentences. Given that you used the -ú I think that we can assume that English is your native tongue, so that's no excuse. Quote: and it's advertised as equivalent to one months play but if one months play is 9.99 it's clearly not equivalent !! PLEX will give you 30 days game time if you use it that way, the monthly sub also gives 30 days game time, how is that not equivalent? Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 251	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:16:37 - [18] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: as far as i understand plex has one use, adding game time, and it can be sold on the market so one use or did i miss something ?? and it's advertised as equivalent to one months play but if one months play is 9.99 it's clearly not equivalent !! I'm going to say this for the third (and last) time before I abandon this thread. You can sell a plex in game for 900 million ISK as well. To have that privilege, you pay more in real life money. Don't want to pay extra? Subscribe to game time. I honestly don't know how to say that any other way.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12472	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:31:42 - [19] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: or did i miss something ?? Yes, several dozen times while people have been screaming the correct answer again and again Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
KaarBaak Squirrel Team 367	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:44:19 - [20] - Quote It's always strange when some of EvE's best and brightest forum warriors are successfully trolled. KB Dum Spiro Spero Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
Ori Hunter New Eden Construction Co 0	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:50:33 - [21] - Quote i quote directly from ccp ; What is PLEX? PLEX is an in-game item that can be used to pay for your subscription without using more traditional payment methods. By using PLEX, you can pay for your game time simply by playing the game. so they advertise 9.99 but if your dumb you can pay 16.99 for the same service !! so 2 different prices for the same service
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12476	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:54:25 - [22] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: but if your dumb Indeed, indeed Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2016.06.30 23:03:57 - [23] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: i quote directly from ccp ; What is PLEX? PLEX is an in-game item that can be used to pay for your subscription without using more traditional payment methods. By using PLEX, you can pay for your game time simply by playing the game. so they advertise 9.99 but if your dumb you can pay 16.99 for the same service !! so 2 different prices for the same service If you'd bothered to read beyond the first paragraph, of what I assume is this page, you'd have noticed that it also says Quote: PLEX is convenient PLEX is actively traded between players and can be found in every major trade hub of EVE Online. It is only consumed when you activate it, affording you the freedom to use it when and where you need it most. And more importantly Quote: PLEX is flexible Selling PLEX to boost your in-game wallet and buying PLEX to pay your subscription using in-game ISK are two of its many uses. PLEX can also be used to purchase several account services or even to pay for out of game events and products. If you buy PLEX with RL cash to subscribe then you're a fool, as you point out it's more expensive than a sub. However, it has many uses beyond game time, which is why it is more expensive than a sub. As an analogy, a pocket knife is a knife, it cuts things; a multipurpose pocket knife such as a Victorinox also cuts things, but it can do other stuff too, hence it is going to cost more than a simple pocket knife. I am Ralph's junk DNA.
Kei Nagasai X-COM Navy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.06.30 23:06:34 - [24] - Quote you can buy PLEX codes from g2a, its a bit cheaper, not as cheap as the game time, gives an option though.
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2868	Posted - 2016.06.30 23:14:28 - [25] - Quote you are thinking of a plex and subscription see as the same thing... they are not. i'll try a real world example. You can buy for a house with cash right now, and pay that single fee. or you can take out a loan, and and buy a house, paying the fee for the house + interest over time, thus costing you more in the long then if you just saved up the $100k and bought the house outright. A subscription fee is just buying the house, right now. a plex is like getting a loan. And like a loan, you don;t have to use the money to buy the house. You can buy a car, go on vacation, whatever. you would still get the 100k but there is a fee and other stuff tacked on for the privileged of using the loan. A plex is not just game time, it enables you to do a bunch of other stuff with it. Where as game time is just that, game time. Just get the game time. (note bad example is bad, but it was the only thing that i could think of that might be equivalent) OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 340	Posted - 2016.07.01 00:45:10 - [26] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: im not sure you get what i mean.... ccp say its the equivalent of 30 days when its not 30 days are 9.99 and a plex is 16.99 so its clearly not as advertised !!! get my drift :) When we're done charting this out for the blind, how about we vote to leave or stay in the....NVM! If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 2950	Posted - 2016.07.01 03:17:11 - [27] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: i quote directly from ccp ; What is PLEX? PLEX is an in-game item that can be used to pay for your subscription without using more traditional payment methods. By using PLEX, you can pay for your game time simply by playing the game. so they advertise 9.99 but if your dumb you can pay 16.99 for the same service !! so 2 different prices for the same service It is NOT the same service. Purchasing subscription give you game time in a non-transferable medium. The game time is added to your account directly. The PLEX on the other hand give you one out of a few things depending on how you use it. This, in itself mean it is more valuable because of it's multiple possible use. You can turn a PLEX into AURUM, 30 day of game time, 30 days of second training queue on an active account, you can also use PLEX (2 in that case) to perform a character transfer. The other things which makes PLEX more valuable than direct game time is it's transfer-ability. It's essentially "liquid" game time which, once again, elevate its value. If you are only looking for game time, all of this does not matter to you and you should buy a subscription plan. If it does interest you, then you would see the added value a PLEX has over a month of game time and realize this is why it cost more. If you still can't understand why there is a price difference after this explanation, then you are a dumbass.
W33b3l Conquest and Kittens 104	Posted - 2016.07.01 04:24:23 - [28] - Quote I have been corrected about prices in the US but I swear it was close in the past, but I could be remembering wrong. If plex could only be used for what you say it can be used for... then yes I would call shenanigans as well. You are forgetting about Aurum. You know that micro transaction, premium currency in game acquired with real world money. For the record I hate it so much Ive thought about unsubbing a few times. Aurum is created by buying plex and converting it. I like to call it golden ISK. You can also use plex to activate dual character training... and expect more things in the future.. assuming theyve already added crap I failed to notice. Even if the math has always been wonky... these facts alone have bastardized PLEX to something it was never originally meant to be thus inflating its real world currency worth. Even before this, you where never supposed to buy plex through your web browser for RL money to extend your play time, you are supposed to buy it in game with ISK to extend your play time. Buying it with RL money was always intended to be sold in game for ISK. The RL monetary price point is just fluctuating because they are using it for crap they shouldn't be in a subscription game. But RL money going to game time was always intended to be done through subscription.
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 143	Posted - 2016.07.01 04:27:00 - [29] - Quote I approve this thread for its comic value. I think that is the hardest ive LOLed all week.
Dashiel We Dream Psycho 1	Posted - 2016.07.01 06:24:31 - [30] - Quote I think you failed to upgrade your clone before you died.
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 764	Posted - 2016.07.01 06:29:33 - [31] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: hi pip's have a few accounts and was thinking of coming back but i just noticed that 30 days of play is -ú9.99 in the uk but plex prices are -ú16.99 so im a little confused ?? any help with this as eve site says a plex is the equivalent to a months play with is 30 days ? but not as you can see ? Did you not realise that Sterling has crashed against the US$? The collapse of Sterling thanks to Britain's 'exit-the-EU' thing means you'll be paying more for imported goods. Get used to it. The thing with PLEX is that, at it's core, it's a (very effective) mechanism to fight RMT bots and the like. If players know they can spend real world $$$ on a PLEX they can then convert to ISK, why would they go through the (huge) risks of buying ISK from an RMT site and run the permaban gauntlet? Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13171	Posted - 2016.07.01 07:57:24 - [32] - Quote Kueyen wrote: Ori Hunter wrote: 9.99 divided by 30 days = 0.0333333333333333 per day 16.99 divided by 30 days = 1.700700700700701 per day If you suffer from Dyscalculia, EvE might not be the game for you. -ú9.99 / 30 days = 0.333 -ú/day -ú16.99 / 30 days = 0.5663 -ú/day Expect it to go up in the future, though, thanks to the "Leave" camp accidentally winning. Also: The many uses of Plex. How someone can suffer from it, when he have calculator in every computer, damn, calculator is nearly another word for computer. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 117	Posted - 2016.07.01 08:24:16 - [33] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: i quote directly from ccp ; What is PLEX? PLEX is an in-game item that can be used to pay for your subscription without using more traditional payment methods. By using PLEX, you can pay for your game time simply by playing the game. so they advertise 9.99 but if your dumb you can pay 16.99 for the same service !! so 2 different prices for the same service Not really. Because you can buy Plex ingame you can keep your account running without using RL money but you need to generate the amount of ISK to buy the Plex. On the other hand if you buy Plex with RL money you get a lot of ISK ingame. Depends what you need more: ISK or gametime. PLEX has more uses then a subscription (MCT, remoddeling your Toon etc) and that's why you pay more for Plex. Think of a Smart and a Combi. A Smart and a Combi will both get you somewhere but with the Combi you can also transport your whole family or transport big things: That's why it's more expansive then a Smart. If you need just to get somewhere the Smart is cheaper but if you have a family it's not the best choice.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 3268	Posted - 2016.07.01 08:40:17 - [34] - Quote Kueyen wrote: Expect it to go up in the future, though, thanks to the "Leave" camp accidentally winning. found the butthurt one FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Yarosara Ruil 394	Posted - 2016.07.01 08:43:52 - [35] - Quote This is by far the stormiest teacup I have seen in recent times! Look at it swirling!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17797	Posted - 2016.07.01 10:01:23 - [36] - Quote aldhura wrote: There is a special offer on now where you buy 90 days game time and you get 90 days "free" MCT - Multi character training. May be worth looking at. Does this apply to existing subscriptions? "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
chelly Dian Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 56	Posted - 2016.07.01 10:30:18 - [37] - Quote Ori Hunter wrote: this is what i mean you cant have the same product/ item for 2 different prices 9.99 divided by 30 days = 0.0333333333333333 per day 16.99 divided by 30 days = 1.700700700700701 per day so you get what im saying now ??? Im nost sure if you are thick or simply trolling at this point.
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2016.07.01 10:52:12 - [38] - Quote chelly Dian wrote: Im not sure if you are thick or simply trolling at this point. Why not both? I am Ralph's junk DNA.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12484	Posted - 2016.07.01 11:16:48 - [39] - Quote Giaus Felix wrote: chelly Dian wrote: Im not sure if you are thick or simply trolling at this point. Why not both? That's like having chocolate sauce AND chocolate chips on your ice cream. That's simply too much goodness Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Cristl 457	Posted - 2016.07.01 11:46:51 - [40] - Quote Malcanis wrote: aldhura wrote: There is a special offer on now where you buy 90 days game time and you get 90 days "free" MCT - Multi character training. May be worth looking at. Does this apply to existing subscriptions? Yes. It's a pretty sweet offer. I believe it's open until July 7th.
Felix Judge Regnum Ludorum 46	Posted - 2016.07.01 11:49:40 - [41] - Quote Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26262	Posted - 2016.07.01 12:02:38 - [42] - Quote Felix Judge wrote: Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly. AFAIK CCP haven't altered the price due to exchange rates since at least 2009 (as long as I've been playing), they're hardly likely to do it it now. As for your opinion on Brexit, you might want to keep that to yourself, discussion of politics is forbidden on the forums. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 3269	Posted - 2016.07.01 12:11:07 - [43] - Quote Felix Judge wrote: Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly. lets not get into a political debate as its against the rules, the sky isnt falling FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12487	Posted - 2016.07.01 13:03:16 - [44] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Felix Judge wrote: Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly. lets not get into a political debate as its against the rules, the sky isnt falling So is trolling, but that didn't stop the OP Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 2950	Posted - 2016.07.01 16:49:48 - [45] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Felix Judge wrote: Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly. lets not get into a political debate as its against the rules, the sky isnt falling So is trolling, but that didn't stop the OP But political stuff rule does get enforced while trolling well, not so much. I have a personal theory where the ISsD like seeing where we can go with a lot of trolling and see the discussion still sometime brings something so they let a lot slide while political discussion never really gets anywhere anyway.
DeODokktor Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium 57	Posted - 2016.07.01 17:33:49 - [46] - Quote My god, how can the OP not understand this. The plex has a REDEEM option. The 30 days of time does not! You pay for OPTIONS..
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17798	Posted - 2016.07.01 21:16:29 - [47] - Quote Cristl wrote: Malcanis wrote: aldhura wrote: There is a special offer on now where you buy 90 days game time and you get 90 days "free" MCT - Multi character training. May be worth looking at. Does this apply to existing subscriptions? Yes. It's a pretty sweet offer. I believe it's open until July 7th. Huh apparently my bank dont like CCP's new payment system "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26263	Posted - 2016.07.01 21:36:56 - [48] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Cristl wrote: Malcanis wrote: aldhura wrote: There is a special offer on now where you buy 90 days game time and you get 90 days "free" MCT - Multi character training. May be worth looking at. Does this apply to existing subscriptions? Yes. It's a pretty sweet offer. I believe it's open until July 7th. Huh apparently my bank dont like CCP's new payment system My bank doesn't like it either, I just use Paypal. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
KaarBaak Squirrel Team 369	Posted - 2016.07.01 21:37:10 - [49] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Bumblefck wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Felix Judge wrote: Also, I would go for the -ú 9.99 for as long as it lasts - given how the -ú is plummeting after that foolish Brexit vote, better act quickly. lets not get into a political debate as its against the rules, the sky isnt falling So is trolling, but that didn't stop the OP But political stuff rule does get enforced while trolling well, not so much. I have a personal theory where the ISsD like seeing where we can go with a lot of trolling and see the discussion still sometime brings something so they let a lot slide while political discussion never really gets anywhere anyway. Trolling keeps the truly controversial subjects off the front page. Dum Spiro Spero Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26264	Posted - 2016.07.01 21:51:16 - [50] - Quote As the OP is either trolling or suffering from a terminal case of 50 shades of dumb, in line with GD tradition I hereby give this thread a spirit animal. Behold the baby Platypus. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Paranoid Loyd 9178	Posted - 2016.07.01 22:09:03 - [51] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: As the OP is either trolling or suffering from a terminal case of 50 shades of dumb, in line with GD tradition I hereby give this thread a spirit animal. Behold the baby Platypus. I see your Platypus and raise you a bat Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!

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