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Pasheer Herrick
Legion of Denali Knights
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Posted - 2016.07.03 12:54:19 -
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Having just run about 40 or so "new events" in high sec, it looks like once again the lowest common denominator has been served. Every single Serpentis Shipyard is camped by a fast ship just waiting by the cargo container spamming the "open container" button until the guards are defeated and they can scoop up the contents then warp out.
I'm failing to see the whole point. The rest of the Event sites have a "running with the bulls" mentality that I just don't see as fun.
Just my opinion and maybe I'll get the point later.
Maybe if they were set up like missions so the "mad cash grab" style of play isn't rewarded then maybe I'd like them more.
Just my opinion. I don't mean to be a troll here. 
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2016.07.03 13:05:23 -
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If the box were owned by whoever killed the last rat and turned anyone else who took stuff out of it flashy yellow, we might get some actual fights over its contents.
A signature :o
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Pretentious Knob
Silhouette Services
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Posted - 2016.07.03 13:52:07 -
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Well they are a grind for very little gain. Question also is the bronze silver and golden chest worth it? I have 5000 points after countless sights. In the ship yard box all i get are the microprocessors. I have nearly 70. So please can there be a better pot at the end of the sea of little red crosses. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1418
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Posted - 2016.07.03 13:52:16 -
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ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
get out of hisec
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Broggo Yimmix
Purgatory Reach
11
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Posted - 2016.07.03 14:00:23 -
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As far as the loot goes you'll make more money by running missions. Even the lucky drops are depreciating on the market due to flooding. The design of the event is such that the value of the site is the site completion counter. As far as the first two boxes I got skins, some serpentis tops, and 2 +10 skill accelerators.... not worth the trouble so far, but on my way to gold (and at least a semi worthless dread bpc). |
Kaivarian Coste
Beyond Imports and Exports
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Posted - 2016.07.03 14:56:54 -
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I normally run the Serpentis Shipyard sites and spam-lock 30+ ships every single time. It gets pretty repetitive. By my calculations, I make about 20m isk/hr from bounties alone, just a bit better than semi-afk mining. But I've also found two high-grade implants, which is nice. If Shipyards pop up in my local area, I go ahead and do them, but I can only tolerate a few before I get bored. |
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
224
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Posted - 2016.07.03 15:11:34 -
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I appreciate the events that CCP has come out with however the Serpentis event is now my least favorite. I love EVE because it is NOT a grind. If I wanted GRIND there are much better games out there for it.
It's ok though, knowing this is what is available I feel I am not missing anything by NOT logging on everyday.
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Broggo Yimmix
Purgatory Reach
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Posted - 2016.07.03 15:32:26 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:I appreciate the events that CCP has come out with however the Serpentis event is now my least favorite. I love EVE because it is NOT a grind. If I wanted GRIND there are much better games out there for it.
It's ok though, knowing this is what is available I feel I am not missing anything by NOT logging on everyday.
You aren't missing much. The carrot on the string is pretty weak due to the build cost of the dread being very high (40 Billion isk in materials). The only groups I can see this ship appealing to will be hi class wormhole dwellers (K-space dwellers will just use a super carrier and not be locked into siege) The bpc's will flood the market which will drive it's value down. As for the titan and super bpc's it's pretty much expected that account sharers will take those.
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Djsaeu
Mineral Void LLC
Voice of the Void
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Posted - 2016.07.03 17:21:59 -
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I must be mission something, At this point I have yet to see any loot at all, I have gotten bubkiss, nada, nix, nothing. |
Broggo Yimmix
Purgatory Reach
11
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Posted - 2016.07.03 17:24:52 -
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Djsaeu wrote:I must be mission something, At this point I have yet to see any loot at all, I have gotten bubkiss, nada, nix, nothing.
Serpentis Shipyard and Research Facilities have a can (make sure event container is checked in overview). It's the one site that has loot. |
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.07.03 18:36:03 -
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Having no fun from this event. |
Jinn McKellin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.03 19:33:22 -
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Haven't even bothered to log in for iti. No loss is what I'm getting from everyone |
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
Voxis Accord
85
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Posted - 2016.07.03 21:55:23 -
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Pretentious Knob wrote:Well they are a grind for very little gain. Question also is the bronze silver and golden chest worth it? I have 5000 points after countless sights. In the ship yard box all i get are the microprocessors. I have nearly 70. So please can there be a better pot at the end of the sea of little red crosses.
I have got 1 +2 cha implant that give a 5% to armor repair, and a set bonus. A low grade Alekpian epsilon. So ther eis some extra reward. But it isn't particularly fun to run the sites.
It is too repetitive without the need of a real tactic.
Chopper Rollins wrote:ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
get out of hisec
The site names, enemies and difficulty are the same in 0.0. I haven't seen better rewards there.
AFAIK your reply is meaningless in the context of the OP question, as apparently there is no difference between the 0.0 or high sec rewards or difficulty. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden
Workers Trade Federation
790
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Posted - 2016.07.03 22:02:52 -
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Can't really tell if they're fun or not. Like the Guristas, Bloodraider and Frostline event, the sites are heavily competed and therefore a rare sight to see on the overview. This makes it so 90% (my personal estimate) of the playerbase never actually gets to see one and complete it without interruption.
However I don't think that making the sites personal (like missions) or create more of them would fix it however.
Overall, I think the events are of bad design and doesn't contribute to the game, not even lorewise. It is simply CCP throwing us a stick and telling us to go fetch. But that's just my personal opinion. |
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
350
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Posted - 2016.07.03 22:56:41 -
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Wouldn't you find trying to sink a Drifter battleship with a frigate "fun"? 
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Captain Tardbar
Sunken Ships
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Posted - 2016.07.03 23:53:44 -
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Its like WoW or Guild Wars 2 dailies with monthlies as well. Grinding for trinkets.
Making the game like other MMOs won't stop declining player numbers.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
350
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Posted - 2016.07.04 03:37:20 -
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Declining numbers? I know tons of people who'd play if it wasn't lambs to the slaughter, them the lambs, the "vets" the butchers. Paying to be the invited screwee in a gankfest just doesn't appeal to people with the kind of intelligence that earns a decent take-home pay. When will game devs learn to stop catering to the single mom's VISA for junior? Never.
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
154
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Posted - 2016.07.04 04:36:45 -
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I dont even worry about the can. if i get it i get it. If i dont i dont. Its actually becoming super grindy and i hate that about games. Been through 7 systems tonight and not one event site of any type, wonder where they went. Think i may be throwing in the towel on this one and going back to pew pew. Im not carebear enough to grind these for 40 days and 40 nights. |
Jameson Dirge
Dirge Post Mortem Recycling
9
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Posted - 2016.07.04 05:01:10 -
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I haven't done the new events, since my gametime is limited I prefer to do other stuff. The events are just too grindy for me, reminds me of WoW dailies.
And no I'm not hating, that's just my two isk. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.04 07:32:43 -
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Its a pretty reasonable design, in that
(a) if you can't play every day, you aren't penalized.
(b) there is a component of the income that people can't steal from you.
(c) there are 3 or 4 strategies in play (do everything, just do S+Rs, just "steal" from S+Rs, just capsule leech etc).
(d) the valuable strategy (implant farming) is exposed to a little bit of contention or as some may view it,"theft".
The issues are
(a) it broke badly when released (lack of crediting stayed around for days).
(b) one of the options for implant strategy farming (finding S+Rs in places where there is no competition) appears to be essentially identical in nature to ratting anomolies, but with 25% of the bounties, no faction rat, and the tiny escalation turned into a tiny implant chance, and you can't direct the chances of the implants to suit yourself.
The problem with tiny chances is that individual players can face unbound failures, ie if the implant drop chance is as low as 5%, then 100 can loots without a drop is going to happen to like 10% of the playerbase (the exact number I'll leave up to people that do stats). I'm currently sampling the loot drop chance at below 10%, don't know if thats the average, or if that is even a streak yet.
(c) the encounters are generally dull and just require a general dps ship, preferably with rat specific resists and damage.
(d) no cross over between encounters - there is a little cross over between tasks - ie occasionally you might complete a part of 2 tasks at once, but you won't need an object collected in 1 task, to do another or anything like that, there is no essential puzzle.
(e) the grinding component of the reward isn't very interesting - collected all up its basically half a skill injector and a bpc most people probably won't build. |
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Taishoku Mayaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
481
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Posted - 2016.07.04 11:49:36 -
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No, not fun. But useful having BC pirates available in most high-sec systems, helps security status recovery a fair bit. But I won't ever complete bronze :P |
Pasheer Herrick
Legion of Denali Knights
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Posted - 2016.07.04 12:24:52 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
get out of hisec
Yes. I've done the whole "get out of high sec" thing for over a year. Was just curious as to what others thought. I tend to be more of a loner when it comes to Eve. Not looking for rewards for playing the social game. I think there's probably a large number of potential new players out there who feel the same. But I know Eve can't be both. 
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Revis Owen
The Conference Elite
CODE.
383
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Posted - 2016.07.04 20:07:23 -
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Sustrai Aditua wrote:Declining numbers? I know tons of people who'd play if it wasn't lambs to the slaughter, them the lambs, the "vets" the butchers. Paying to be the invited screwee in a gankfest just doesn't appeal to people with the kind of intelligence that earns a decent take-home pay. When will game devs learn to stop catering to the single mom's VISA for junior? Never.
Just point to the place on the ship doll where the bad Eve man touched you.
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nezroy
Nice Clan
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Posted - 2016.07.04 22:46:57 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:I appreciate the events that CCP has come out with however the Serpentis event is now my least favorite. I love EVE because it is NOT a grind. If I wanted GRIND there are much better games out there for it.
It's ok though, knowing this is what is available I feel I am not missing anything by NOT logging on everyday.
I mean, I'm not trying to defend the event itself but "EVE ... is NOT a grind"? Are you kidding?
Incursions, ratting, L4 mission running, FW missions, mining... making ISK is pretty much ALL grind in this game. |
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
226
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Posted - 2016.07.04 22:59:01 -
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nezroy wrote:Tzar Sinak wrote:I appreciate the events that CCP has come out with however the Serpentis event is now my least favorite. I love EVE because it is NOT a grind. If I wanted GRIND there are much better games out there for it.
It's ok though, knowing this is what is available I feel I am not missing anything by NOT logging on everyday. I mean, I'm not trying to defend the event itself but "EVE ... is NOT a grind"? Are you kidding? Incursions, ratting, L4 mission running, FW missions, mining... making ISK is pretty much ALL grind in this game.
Not if you enjoy what your are doing. This event is not enjoyable to me. Pity. I liked the earlier events.
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
551
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Posted - 2016.07.05 01:10:42 -
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All I can say is.
Remove this crap from wormhole space. Completely immersion breaking to have the angel and serpentis installations suddenly appearing all over wormhole space.
Its stupid content that doesnt make any sense in wormholes.
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
352
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Posted - 2016.07.05 03:50:58 -
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Revis Owen wrote:Sustrai Aditua wrote:Declining numbers? I know tons of people who'd play if it wasn't lambs to the slaughter, them the lambs, the "vets" the butchers. Paying to be the invited screwee in a gankfest just doesn't appeal to people with the kind of intelligence that earns a decent take-home pay. When will game devs learn to stop catering to the single mom's VISA for junior? Never. Just point to the place on the ship doll where the bad Eve man touched you. First rule in BS-ing: Don't give yourself away - amateur.
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
13361
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Posted - 2016.07.05 07:46:45 -
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The best thing is competitive looting. 
I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Kaivarian Coste
Beyond Imports and Exports
64
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Posted - 2016.07.05 17:16:45 -
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Don't take drones to Angel Cartel sites. They get chewed up quick. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.06 02:39:24 -
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Kaivarian Coste wrote:Don't take drones to Angel Cartel sites. They get chewed up quick.
The angels are sooooooooooooo slow, and encounters that are mostly angels have no loot, and thus no reason to not setup at range. Just blap them with sentries.
As this character is basically sentry dedicated, I also do the shipyard+research with sentries, it took a few goes to perfect a routine for it, but now the main overhead is flying back to the sentries after the lootbox opens, and you can just kill another ship for more bounties as you fly back, its not pure overhead.
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