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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: JoeT on 06/03/2007 18:04:52 Edited by: JoeT on 06/03/2007 18:04:21
Originally by: Felinuszzz
Quote: emo, go slit your wrists. cry somewhere else.
Hey Troubadour. Weren't you in the gang that ganked my Hurricane the other day?
The guys who ransomed for 25M, then 40M, then 100M because I cloaked and made you work to look for me? 
As per your request: wrists have been slit (just little sympathy cuts), crying has commenced elsewhere (my mum's so sympathetic) 
Your doing it wrong!
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xtreamer
Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: xtreamer on 06/03/2007 18:42:35 Edited by: xtreamer on 06/03/2007 18:42:18 i hate you :]
but love is hate so lala
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AirWalker
Amarr Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:45:00 -
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i don't get why people are *****ing so much about this kind of stuff....back when i first started it took 900 hours of mining with a civ miner to get anywhere...........and now people are expecting to get t2 items and get a BS out of the gate?
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:46:00 -
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the fact the 90% of the players have to go through the same grind to get their ships, yet arent quitting, suggests that its you thats broken, not the game. also there were several official replies to the BoB t2 BPO incident, including one or two dev blogs. ------------
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Felinuszzz
Caldari Sad Panda Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:52:00 -
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Quote: the fact the 90% of the players have to go through the same grind to get their ships, yet arent quitting, suggests that its you thats broken, not the game.
Perhaps you are correct. I am tired of grinding and I do not want to do it any more.
Let alone pay money so I can do it.
However, the market situation is what makes such levels of grinding necessary in the first place. If t2 BPOs were seeded on the public market, the tech 2 market would be as competitive as the tech 1 market, and items would be more easily affordable.
That would mean less grinding for "broken" people like me, who cannot stand the thought of killing yet another NPC rat.
I actually am kind of broken... carpel tunnel syndrome from too much point-and-double-click-ratting FTL...  --------- |

Raquel Smith
Caldari Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Felinuszzz For the Rupture BPO: You just jumped into a gatecamp of five people. There is a large bubble on the gate. Vagabond, Ishtar, Deimos, Eagle, supported by a Huginn. You are flying a Tier two Battlecruiser, and you have a PvP fit - with a cloak. You were lucky on jump in, and you spawned a cool 25km from any of the ships. You have an MWD fitted. You are not nano fitted - you do have a mean armor tank filling your lows however. You're hauling a full load of zydrine.
What course of action is the right course of action?
Right depends on the goal. If you want to lose the zydrine the right thing to do is to attempt to fight. If you want to save the zydrine the right thing to do is to try and haul ass to the gate popping the Huggin if possible. If you don't want to risk it CTRL+Q.
Originally by: Felinuszzz
For the Stabber BPO: Riddle me this.
Red over gold, the only source is from the homeland of an alliance of old; a place of perfect marks on a complicated quiz. Like one of the ravens of Odin...... like an evil spell......
Cheese?  
On the dev thing: Several blog posts were made on t20's actions.
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B0rn2KiLL
DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Troubadour emo, go slit your wrists. cry somewhere else.
projection anyone? ---
new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11 
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Octaviun
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:56:00 -
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Its sad to see you go Feli, and troub, wasn't in that gang that we killed you in just myself and 3 others :P and yeah the ransom was made higher since you refused to pay the first 2times so the 3rd time when we finnaly decloaked you after you jumped we said hey, why not 100mil?.. but you didn't pay fast enough :) sorry if this is troll just adding a few words before you depart EVE i read your post and some parts i do agree to but not all.
Have fun elsewhere _________________________________________________
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:55:00 -
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While it's always sad when somebody quits over not enjoying the game any longer - (how hard is it to find an alternate niche that you do enjoy, btw?) I find myself... apathetic to their plights. To the point of wishing to start a thread entitled "Why I don't care that you're quitting."
I never met you. Your presence in this game has not affected me in the slightest, or if it has then the effect has been negligible. I imagine the same is true for most other players. Your absence from it, therefore, will have a similarly miniscule impact upon my game experience.
I continue to find EVE fun and engaging. In fact, the biggest problem with the game, in my opinion, is a fan community that is nowadays somewhat too quick to air its grievances.
I have nothing against constructive criticism, whether it's applied in my direction or (in this case) at CCP. Unfortunately, the following:
Quote: I have to grind grind grind in your poorly designed, repetitive, highly boring mindless PvE instances to make ISK, which I then get to spend on overpriced tech 2 weapons and ships to go have fun and meaningful PvP with.
Is really not constructive criticism. It's a whine. The difference is that you list what you dislike about the game without offering an alternative route. Nor have you apparently bothered looking into a different way of playing the game which would be more to your tastes (perhaps you should look into getting a Blackbird cruiser and engage in PvP for the sum of a meagre 6 million ISK or so per ship?)
I appreciate I am trolling slightly here, but I really couldn't care less that you're quitting. It is, I suppose, something of a shame, but this decision really only impacts your corpmates and other in-game friends. Why exactly do the rest of us need to know? It just casts a gloomy, angst-ridden air over the general chat forum, and makes us all feel a little worse.
I suppose it doesn't help in this case that I strongly disagree with every point you've thus far raised. Vagabonds cost 220m? given that they can quite happily gank a battleship worth the same amount when used properly, I fail to see the problem. I'm pretty certain that CCP have commented on the T2 BPO event on multiple occasions by now. The offending items were removed, the individual in question came forward to apologise and did so at great length on these very forums... frankly I'm by now long since sick and tired of people continuing to harp on about this. It's not like some extra tech 2 ammunition is exactly enough to turn the tide of a war. Insinuating that the entirety of CCP are corrupt, amoral and exploitative thanks to the misguided choice of one person is, frankly, childish and shallow.
EVE is a long way from being broken. It has the occasional flaw and fault, granted, and I won't try to pretend these are somehow a positive influence... but it is still, in my opinion, an awesome game and one of the pinnacles of MMO gaming.
So yeah, it's a pity to see you go... a pity that you are blind not only to the true depth and virtue of this game because of your petty outrage over something that never really affected you anyway. A pity that you won't put even the slightest effort into exploring alternate avenues of entertainment and career in EVE. A pity that you feel the rest of us are going to give a flying f*** that you're leaving. The only reason I care about this thread at all is that your pompous assumption that the entire game wants to know about you and your opinion rather gets my back up.
Farewell, Felinuszzz. I don't want your stuff, it might infect me with misery-cooties. ***
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starship enginer
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:55:00 -
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to op
this is exactly the same reason i left eve about 8months ago. t2 prices make the game a grind, 50 hours straight grind for 1h pvp is not worth it
ccp offered a 1 week free return to eve, i thought i would see how it has changed, if it is better join again. first thing i did was check t2 prices.
guess what, im not staying!
grind online, thanks ccp. t2 has destroyed the game. fix it
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:00:00 -
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For the gatecamp scenario, the correct answer is die. If you are hauling and you jumped into a camp, you deserve to die, as you ****** up.
I see numerous comments on how T2 has destroyed the game. Yes, T2 is very expensive. Yes it will requires hours of work to get if you (for some reason..?) rely on grinding for income. No, you do not need T2. No, the game is not broken.
The luxury goods cost a lot. Welcome to the world. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

starship enginer
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn For the gatecamp scenario, the correct answer is die. If you are hauling and you jumped into a camp, you deserve to die, as you ****** up.
I see numerous comments on how T2 has destroyed the game. Yes, T2 is very expensive. Yes it will requires hours of work to get if you (for some reason..?) rely on grinding for income. No, you do not need T2. No, the game is not broken.
The luxury goods cost a lot. Welcome to the world.
then why does tux and everyone else use t2 modules to balance the various races and ship classes? t2 is not luxury
guess you have never entered lower than 0.5
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 07/03/2007 02:04:40
Originally by: starship enginer
Originally by: Crumplecorn For the gatecamp scenario, the correct answer is die. If you are hauling and you jumped into a camp, you deserve to die, as you ****** up.
I see numerous comments on how T2 has destroyed the game. Yes, T2 is very expensive. Yes it will requires hours of work to get if you (for some reason..?) rely on grinding for income. No, you do not need T2. No, the game is not broken.
The luxury goods cost a lot. Welcome to the world.
then why does tux and everyone else use t2 modules to balance the various races and ship classes? t2 is not luxury
guess you have never entered lower than 0.5
1. I've lived in 0.0 for months.
2. The OP (and therefore I) was referencing ships, not mods, which while still luxury are more necessary (and thus a lot more affordable).
3. Balance is irrelevant, as balanced fights are unheard of in Eve anyway. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:16:00 -
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For the rupture: Hmm. Unless you're a ctrl+q'ing ******* then you're pretty boned here, nice of ccp to put that in though just in case you have no shame. The blob of hacs will eat you alive... you said something about an armour tank... not sure what ship though... if its a myrmiddon then heres my attack plan: 5 seconds for lag to subside.... 10 seconds of realising how ****** i am... ok since i had to fight them i'd probably rush the huggin... approach and mwd on/off... try and close the distance... drones out and all weps on the huggin right away.. i'd probably get about 2kms before he started pwning me with his webs, but thats fine... next up is nos for the deimos when he comes in close, start sucking him dry to feed reps... vaga you cant do much about... its the nano-phoon of old after all... ok so at this point my shields are gone and im going into armour... but lets assume my tank can hold for a little while... sooner or later the huggin will die unless he mwd's out of the bubble... as soon as he dies/leaves (assume the latter) i'd throw everything on the deimos which must be out of cap by now... still getting pwned by vaga ishtar and eagle though... so.. I guess i'd die.. or eject my zyd and blow it up first... bottom line though, always try and take someone with you 
I agree with your other points.. eves going to bad places... CCPs fixation with "breaking up the blob" is failing horribly and nothing else is improving... for instance the fleet system rewards blobs and the gang system now punishes them with no bonus's... wtf were they thinking. Good luck anyway Fel
Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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starship enginer
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn 1. I've lived in 0.0 for months.
2. The OP (and therefore I) was referencing ships, not mods, which while still luxury are more necessary (and thus a lot more affordable).
3. Balance is irrelevant, as balanced fights are unheard of in Eve anyway.
1: that says nothing, most my kills are from those who live in 0.0
2: t2 ships without t2 guns? who you kidding. t2 is standard, t2 is used to balance the game, there was even a dev blog saying t2 is now pretty standard.
3: yes because this is a FPS, next time i die ill just use the overpowered gun. balance between races, guns, ships, modules is very important. t2 is used to balance the game, so t2 prices need to be addressed.
4: people pay to have fun, not grind. for me fun is flying a BS, usually close range. guess what a t2 close range megathron costs? how long do you think it would take to earn that back with any of the standard professions, eg mining, agent whoring, ect
but the biggest problem, those who have t2 BPOs and those who do not.
t2 broke the game for me over a year ago, and i quit about 8-9months ago because of it!
you want to know the surprising thing, i had over 40bil isk when i quit, i could afford t2 easily. but the noobs i killed could not, and instead of what you preach about using t1. they just dont fight if they donĘt have t2 in most cases.
whoopy, fun fun fun
grind online
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Aphotic Raven For the rupture: Hmm. Unless you're a ctrl+q'ing ******* then you're pretty boned here, nice of ccp to put that in though just in case you have no shame. The blob of hacs will eat you alive... you said something about an armour tank... not sure what ship though... if its a myrmiddon then heres my attack plan: 5 seconds for lag to subside.... 10 seconds of realising how ****** i am... ok since i had to fight them i'd probably rush the huggin... approach and mwd on/off... try and close the distance... drones out and all weps on the huggin right away.. i'd probably get about 2kms before he started pwning me with his webs, but thats fine... next up is nos for the deimos when he comes in close, start sucking him dry to feed reps... vaga you cant do much about... its the nano-phoon of old after all... ok so at this point my shields are gone and im going into armour... but lets assume my tank can hold for a little while... sooner or later the huggin will die unless he mwd's out of the bubble... as soon as he dies/leaves (assume the latter) i'd throw everything on the deimos which must be out of cap by now... still getting pwned by vaga ishtar and eagle though... so.. I guess i'd die.. or eject my zyd and blow it up first... bottom line though, always try and take someone with you 
I agree with your other points.. eves going to bad places... CCPs fixation with "breaking up the blob" is failing horribly and nothing else is improving... for instance the fleet system rewards blobs and the gang system now punishes them with no bonus's... wtf were they thinking. Good luck anyway Fel
My approach? Turn the tank on, head for the gate, and pray. If i make it, warp to random celestial objects a few times to try and shake the pursuit, then WTZ on another stargate, and go a few systems over. Take a breather, navigate an alternate route, take it, then come back with friends  ***
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HornFrog
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.03.07 03:27:00 -
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This is a thread to say goodbye to a player, not a place to flame each other or vent about T2 prices.
Please stay on topic and keep it civil.
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Ronwe
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.07 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: HornFrog This is a thread to say goodbye to a player, not a place to flame each other or vent about T2 prices.
Please stay on topic and keep it civil.
snip somehow starts anoying me
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Araxmas
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.07 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: starship enginer
grind online
Yes because no other mmo is a grind --------
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Ling Xiao
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Posted - 2007.03.07 12:24:00 -
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I was wondering where this thread went. Apparently it has nothing to do with Eve Online 
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Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 16:33:00 -
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For the rupture situation.... since going with the broken theme.... "logoffski!"
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Salusa VC
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Posted - 2007.03.07 17:22:00 -
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Take it easy mate.
Was a pleasure flying with you.
After 3 years I am also now finding it an effort to log in.
The best thing that makes EVE is the people. It seems a lot of the good ones are leaving these days.
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