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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Kad
Originally by: Jane Spondogolo *snip* It seems the Goons have proven that its not Skillpoints that win the day , but talent and sheer grinding determination.
Wrong...Goons have proven that numbers win the day.
I think you are mistaken here. ASCN was the biggest alliance in the game before their last war. And they didn't win this war. So the statement that 'biggest numbers win' is not valid.
Biggest numbers of determined people wins. Now, that is some other topic. But shouldn't it be this way?
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 20/03/2007 14:10:47 Okay the one with the biggest blob wins.... plain and simple. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. "Well why did ASCN lose then if blobs win?"
Simple. 80percent of thier "largest alliance" were off mining somewhere. They had a very small pvp force. Thats why.
80 percent of goons are in the blob fighting everyday. So our blob is bigger than your blob. And yes, 300 frigs / cruisers can beat a 100 BS gang. All BoB can do is hide behind the DD device. Its thier only hope. Lets see if thieer 3 guys can beat the entire universe...
WildCat
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Swirler
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Swirler on 20/03/2007 14:16:12 Not.
I never saw one Goon Dreadnaught, the 20 plus Dreads were all Red Alliance, Goonflies got to carry RA's books to school, then forked over their lunch-plex money to them, or get popped in the face.
My hat is off only to Red Alliance; for finding and supporting allies that helped them win the day, only RA deserves the credit for making the plan and making it happen.
GJ RA
Originally by: Mang0o LV lost there space too goons.. ehm 
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Metacannibal
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
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dhb is right on the money. ascn and goon are a black and white comparison in MOST aspects.
ascn: - rich individual players - carebear focus - zero care - no community - no coherence - no common goal - poor corps - rather high sp, just not pvpers - chain of command? what? - a bunch of pvpers with a clue and 0 people following them - a truckload of self absorbed wanna be cool emo-online drama queens
goon: - most players have whats needed to kill - fight fight fight - community spirit - very coherent and commited as the bob killboard shows - a common goal - corps take care of players - low to mid sp but all out pvp - great organization - a bunch of great pvpers with 345345325 bees in cruisers/frigates ready for orders
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 20/03/2007 14:10:47 Okay the one with the biggest blob wins.... plain and simple. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. "Well why did ASCN lose then if blobs win?"
Simple. 80percent of thier "largest alliance" were off mining somewhere. They had a very small pvp force. Thats why.
80 percent of goons are in the blob fighting everyday. So our blob is bigger than your blob. And yes, 300 frigs / cruisers can beat a 100 BS gang. All BoB can do is hide behind the DD device. Its thier only hope. Lets see if thieer 3 guys can beat the entire universe...
WildCat
Actually not entirely correct on the ASCN bit. First weeks of the war we fielded some 300 man fleets, including well over 100-150 BS. There are a lot of reasons why ASCN failed, but lack of participation became a problem only after a while (particularly the TPAR attack where we lost several BS-heavy fleets to nodecrashes and some mistakes). And the lack of dreadfleet deployment in the primary theatre (PS/Eso and later Feyth) finally sealed ASCNs fate IMO. Without dreads, there was little ability to kill POSses, which ate away at the resolve of those still fighting.
That being said, I hope and think RAGoon make a significantly more potent (and certainly with RA and BE a more experienced and battlehardened) force than ASCN turned out to be.
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Nightfall Assassin
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Posted - 2007.04.04 00:25:00 -
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Goons - N00bs
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