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Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
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Posted - 2016.07.07 04:27:28 -
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After much time and effort, and a brief hiatus, Oasis has been successfully anchored in the system J142214.
The system features access to all PI products, including a beautiful Plasma planet, above which the Citadel has been anchored.
Our statics are a C6, and a C3, allowing access to both high-level and low-level wormhole content, and easy access to highsec connections.
Come one, come all, we welcome you to Oasis.
**Our subreddit:**
/r/OasisCitadel
**Our in-game public channel:**
Oasis-Public
**Our rules and info document:**
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k9JDtJx5CvmZYDYWm8DZI9Bq3eyWru2TMntbPgZuvVg/edit?usp=sharing
Fly safe, Capsuleers. A route to Oasis will be announced in our public channel shortly. A screenshot album is uploading as we speak. |
Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4906
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:14:40 -
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If this isn't a Keep Star I'm gonna want my money back
There is no Bob.
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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
412
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:26:18 -
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One unused thera isn't enough? you needed to make a second one.
Public Channel | Un.Welcome
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4906
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:28:49 -
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Well, he makes money this way. At least in theory I suppose...
Keep Stars don't grow on trees you know!
There is no Bob.
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Rek Seven
Art Of Explosions
404 Hole Not Found
2245
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Posted - 2016.07.07 09:34:52 -
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So this is a wormhole citadel where anyone can dock, even if they are not in your corp?
The wishlist is pretty much complete...
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Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
26
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Posted - 2016.07.07 11:16:02 -
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Rek Seven wrote:So this is a wormhole citadel where anyone can dock, even if they are not in your corp?
That is correct! All will be welcome as long as they follow the general policy of NRDS. Rules are explained in more detail in our info document, linked in our subreddit's sidebar. |
Rek Seven
Art Of Explosions
404 Hole Not Found
2245
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Posted - 2016.07.07 13:11:22 -
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Cool, I wish you the best of luck!
The wishlist is pretty much complete...
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Amthala
Un.Reasonable
11
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Posted - 2016.07.07 13:57:15 -
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For what it's worth, I have run into a dockable citadel in wspace before so youre not the first. though i highly doubt it was deliberate... |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
Peoples United Republic Empire
201
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Posted - 2016.07.07 15:52:38 -
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so basically standing system seem to be nice work, but how about bue-on-blue fire ? what gonna be reprimands ? theres some lack of interpretation. i.e civilian ship (retriever)use drones agaist i.e rifter and kills the rifter. how will be handled this sush action combat logs will be nessecary to show eventual agressor ? how you will handle situation when reds start to annoy so much? how about repelling eventual evictions? is the oasis safe? |
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
1675
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Posted - 2016.07.08 01:02:09 -
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yeha dude same nice one
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Valorex1
Darkness Consumed
The Devils' Rejects
51
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Posted - 2016.07.08 03:23:03 -
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Here is my question how can you even try to impose any system policy when honestly if you **** off the wrong people its dead point blank. If you don't have moon lock you're begging another wh entity to come in and steam roll you. If you do have moon lock you're only delaying the inevitable. Just saying watch who you let in there and be sure you can force them out if you must. |
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
556
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Posted - 2016.07.08 04:02:35 -
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Most peoples reaction to this is a lesson in why we cant have interesting things.
Like chribbas nullsec freeport. Blown up just cause someone could.
Its a novelty in wormhole space.. lets see if it can be a workable thing instead of just blowing it off the map for lols.
"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave." | zoonr-Korsairs |
Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
556
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Posted - 2016.07.08 04:05:15 -
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Jack Miton wrote:....
Keep Stars don't grow on trees you know!
Actually... yes they do.. http://i.imgur.com/dyNp533.jpg?1
"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave." | zoonr-Korsairs |
Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |
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Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
26
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Posted - 2016.07.08 04:11:03 -
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Valorex1 wrote:Here is my question how can you even try to impose any system policy when honestly if you **** off the wrong people its dead point blank. If you don't have moon lock you're begging another wh entity to come in and steam roll you. If you do have moon lock you're only delaying the inevitable. Just saying watch who you let in there and be sure you can force them out if you must.
Why be so negative? We're giving something a go here, something completely unprecedented. Enjoy the experience, don't get stuck on the fact that it could get blown up. We know it could get blown up, but that's not going to stop us.
Seriously, everyone just parroting how it will/may get blown up isn't adding anything. You think we don't know that already?
We will make this work. If you want to come fly with us and have fun, please do so. If you're just going to try to drag other krabs down into your bucket, your commentary is unwanted. |
Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4906
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Posted - 2016.07.08 06:29:33 -
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Killing this citadel would be just a d!ck move for the sake of being a d!ck.
Picking fights in the system for content if youre not a resident however, is completely fair game imo.
There is no Bob.
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4906
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Posted - 2016.07.08 06:30:34 -
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NS behind the 8 ball as usual I see. as least youre trying i guess....
There is no Bob.
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron
The-Culture
1822
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Posted - 2016.07.08 10:57:39 -
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good luck guys!
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
1675
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Posted - 2016.07.08 13:14:05 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Killing this citadel would be just a d!ck move for the sake of being a d!ck.
this is my area of expertise
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Rek Seven
Art Of Explosions
404 Hole Not Found
2247
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Posted - 2016.07.08 14:16:04 -
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I was talking to some people about doing something similar just before citadels were released... The best way to do it would be to reach out to other groups who also want to have an open market and agree to help protect each other if under threat. You could also speak to larger pvp entities and offer their member discounts for in exchange for help if the citadel is ever attacked.
The wishlist is pretty much complete...
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
7173
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Posted - 2016.07.09 15:31:10 -
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Valorex1 wrote:Here is my question how can you even try to impose any system policy when honestly if you **** off the wrong people its dead point blank. If you don't have moon lock you're begging another wh entity to come in and steam roll you. If you do have moon lock you're only delaying the inevitable. Just saying watch who you let in there and be sure you can force them out if you must.
Moonlocking isn't an issue any more because you can anchor the citadel anywhere. Or just dock in the one you plan to destroy. 
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
415
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Posted - 2016.07.09 16:01:31 -
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It kind of is if your serious about an incursion.
If no space to anchor a tower is available you basically have to do a 24 hole control period without a fallback point of refit services outsides of bringing a nestor/orca/cap. With a large tower you can ninja it in and have it online and ready to rock in a few hours time.
Public Channel | Un.Welcome
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2669
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Posted - 2016.07.10 18:33:10 -
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Interesting project and beautiful location, will follow the progress and pay a visit from time to time. Not yet decided how I can benefit from that though, ratting is not my thing ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
32
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Posted - 2016.07.11 05:08:32 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Interesting project and beautiful location, will follow the progress and pay a visit from time to time. Not yet decided how I can benefit from that though, ratting is not my thing ...
If you're interested in PvP, you should look into our Freelancer program
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k9JDtJx5CvmZYDYWm8DZI9Bq3eyWru2TMntbPgZuvVg/edit?usp=sharing
It's a way for us to encourage people to come in and do anti-piracy, and get paid for it.
We also have market opportunities, hauling and trading, and various industry options.
You're free to use Oasis as a sort of mobile raidbase too :P. As long as you follow NRDS when in Oasis, we don't care what you do. |
Raiz Nhell
Tactically Gifted
Tactical Supremacy
526
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Posted - 2016.07.12 03:19:33 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Killing this citadel would be just a d!ck move for the sake of being a d!ck. this is my area of expertise
In a game full of people wanting to do d!ck things for the sake of being a d!ck...
Andrew Jester stands at the pinnacle...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
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Valorex1
Darkness Consumed
The Devils' Rejects
51
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Posted - 2016.07.12 13:28:08 -
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Alexander Otium wrote:Valorex1 wrote:Here is my question how can you even try to impose any system policy when honestly if you **** off the wrong people its dead point blank. If you don't have moon lock you're begging another wh entity to come in and steam roll you. If you do have moon lock you're only delaying the inevitable. Just saying watch who you let in there and be sure you can force them out if you must. Why be so negative? We're giving something a go here, something completely unprecedented. Enjoy the experience, don't get stuck on the fact that it could get blown up. We know it could get blown up, but that's not going to stop us. Seriously, everyone just parroting how it will/may get blown up isn't adding anything. You think we don't know that already? We will make this work. If you want to come fly with us and have fun, please do so. If you're just going to try to drag other krabs down into your bucket, your commentary is unwanted.
I'm not being negative Im being realistic. You need to have forces enforce the rules you plan on having.I'm not beig a **** just honest. I mean this is eve. Why would anyone leave their wh to go to this wh and listen to anyone who isn't their Ceo. Just makes no sense you should have spoken to WH groups for proper defense backing first.
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4910
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Posted - 2016.07.13 00:23:39 -
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Valorex1 wrote:Alexander Otium wrote:Valorex1 wrote:Here is my question how can you even try to impose any system policy when honestly if you **** off the wrong people its dead point blank. If you don't have moon lock you're begging another wh entity to come in and steam roll you. If you do have moon lock you're only delaying the inevitable. Just saying watch who you let in there and be sure you can force them out if you must. Why be so negative? We're giving something a go here, something completely unprecedented. Enjoy the experience, don't get stuck on the fact that it could get blown up. We know it could get blown up, but that's not going to stop us. Seriously, everyone just parroting how it will/may get blown up isn't adding anything. You think we don't know that already? We will make this work. If you want to come fly with us and have fun, please do so. If you're just going to try to drag other krabs down into your bucket, your commentary is unwanted. I'm not being negative Im being realistic. You need to have forces enforce the rules you plan on having.I'm not beig a **** just honest. I mean this is eve. Why would anyone leave their wh to go to this wh and listen to anyone who isn't their Ceo. Just makes no sense you should have spoken to WH groups for proper defense backing first.
people listen to their CEOs? what corps have YOU been in??
There is no Bob.
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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
416
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Posted - 2016.07.13 17:20:13 -
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Jack Miton wrote:
people listen to their CEOs....
Wait this is a thing?
Public Channel | Un.Welcome
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4910
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Posted - 2016.07.14 03:03:01 -
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Hatshepsut IV wrote:Jack Miton wrote:
people listen to their CEOs....
Wait this is a thing?
not to MY knowledge, though apparently so!
There is no Bob.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
559
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Posted - 2016.07.16 01:33:28 -
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You might want to make a post in the General thread or on Reddit in case there are some players interested in checking out wormholes.
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Homebody Madullier
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
0
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Posted - 2016.07.22 14:06:54 -
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Out of curiosity, do you control the POCOs in this system too? What are the tax rates expected to be like?
I'd be interested in bringing an alt in for PI/mining perhaps, provided the export fees were fair and the system wasn't loaded with bubbles and cloakies hunting noobs that dare to fly industrial/mining ships. Interested to see how this turns out. |
Koepplinger
retrotation
0
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Posted - 2016.07.26 17:01:18 -
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I'll personally donate 10b to any group that snuffs this ****** concept out of existence.
If you have plans to, send me a mail--I'm serious. |
Linix Jouhinen
The Enclave Frontiers
Holesale Operations
2
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Posted - 2016.07.27 07:40:44 -
[32] - Quote
Sounds like a wanderful idea. Best PI with only 3% tax.
And you can still stay in a neutral corp for wardec immunity. |
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
541
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Posted - 2016.08.01 18:33:00 -
[33] - Quote
Wormholes are even a source of drama: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4uzvos/oasis_an_errant_venture_corporation_pulls_out/
Planning a trip to Thera? Check out http://eve-scout.com/ for a list of the current connections.
Once you've made your choice, join the EvE-Scout channel and request a scout to make sure your connection is clear!
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4923
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Posted - 2016.08.02 01:17:46 -
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Dead already? jeeze...
There is no Bob.
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
367
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Posted - 2016.08.02 02:07:37 -
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Mmmmm... just the right amount of drama. |
Kalel Nimrott
Deaf Eaters
1240
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Posted - 2016.08.02 06:26:23 -
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helana Tsero wrote:Most peoples reaction to this is a lesson in why we cant have interesting things.
Like chribbas nullsec freeport. Blown up just cause someone could.
Its a novelty in wormhole space.. lets see if it can be a workable thing instead of just blowing it off the map for lols.
No
Bob Artis, you will be missed.
O7
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Eikin Skjald
Ars Venandi
Hole Control
12
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Posted - 2016.08.03 11:43:49 -
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I believe it could work.
And I believe we will say a few more tries.
There are so many Corps that are not working, but so many that work well. I think it's the same thing with many other projects. And People who start these projects will always create some kind of content......some bad and some good. |
Khao Shong Utama
Kaikaki Limited
0
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Posted - 2016.08.12 17:09:26 -
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So ...uh, are they done for? Citadel dismantled and all that jazz? |
Cngaar Aya
The Library Association
0
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:08:08 -
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Khao Shong Utama wrote:So ...uh, are they done for? Citadel dismantled and all that jazz?
I've been curious how this experiment has gone too and messaged the OP, but haven't gotten a response. Guessing it's defunct...? |
Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
37
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Posted - 2016.09.21 07:54:40 -
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Yeah still alive, I just got bored with EVE. Services are down atm because it ran out of fuel, going to fix that soon. |
Corporate Capsuleer
Wormhole Hitchhikers
2
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Posted - 2016.09.23 05:55:20 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:
hmmm, after reading that... nope |
Alexander Otium
Oasis Freeport Wormhole Citadel
37
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Posted - 2016.09.27 04:18:57 -
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Corporate Capsuleer wrote:Winter Archipelago wrote: hmmm, after reading that... nope
They tried to sell 1bil ISK worth of +1 implants along with other things there weren't a demand for, blamed me that nobody bought it, and they think I'm dumb for buying fuel from people. |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
444
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Posted - 2016.09.27 08:11:33 -
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I like the idea of finding a neutral/freindly WH system now and then. With 2500 wormholes a few freeports shouldn't ruin anything. But I see how a citadel like yours may be sieged just because it is easy to seed ships. People are lazy and most want an easy kill, not a good fight. But maybe some corps would come and help you defend it, I would. |
CowQueen MMXII
100
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Posted - 2016.09.28 10:21:29 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:But maybe some corps would come and help you defend it, I would.
After reading
Alexander Otium wrote:Yeah still alive, I just got bored with EVE. Services are down atm because it ran out of fuel, going to fix that soon.
you would still go and help? How can somone be any clearer in saying "I lack what it takes to run such a project.?
Moo! Uddersucker, moo!
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cyennajewelz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.10.10 22:27:28 -
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I think it is a great idea,
could be a good training ground for newbro (alphas) to get a taste of wh life.
what kind of mining is there? a lot of miners or not many?
good luck and glad to see what your trying to do. |
Falkenberg Roenning
Negative Density
1
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Posted - 2016.10.11 06:23:24 -
[46] - Quote
The idea isn't all that crazy, but man... gotta follow through. No one is gonna bother if it smells flaky
D3NSE Recruitment Officer
Find me in IG channel --> D3NSE
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Rahmiro
Repo Industries
72
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Posted - 2016.10.17 06:19:45 -
[47] - Quote
She gone
I never seen these people in my life.
I don't recognize them Your Honor
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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Badfellas Inc.
1535
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Posted - 2016.10.22 02:50:49 -
[48] - Quote
Unfortunately, another prime example of how vulnerable a significant assett without any defensive backbone is. This might have been a very different story, if the effort was propped up by a small pvp-savy wormhole group that was already in the habit of wh-logistics and life. |
Cngaar Aya
The Library Association
Wormlife
1
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Posted - 2016.10.27 18:31:27 -
[49] - Quote
I've been following this closely, as it has some parallels (and some differences) to how we've handled things.
After a lot of consideration, we decided against a true freeport design due to what we deemed unfeasible security concerns, opting instead for a WH alliance that allows for small corps to operate loosely under that umbrella.
We maintain our own defense fleet (relying on mercs, has been, in my experience, problematic), own all POCOs and a Fortizar for the market. Minimal POCO tax (1%) and minimal market and refinery tax (0.5%). Then, we simply put in buy orders at 80% Jita for anything that can be sourced nearby (PI, ore, gas) and sell orders at 90% Jita (to allow for haulers to make ISK exporting on a regular basis). Anything that is sourced outside goes at higher than Jita, since it accounts for transport costs and time.
Wormhole life is tough, but we've found if you are willing to be careful and patient, you can certainly reap its rewards. |
Olmeca Gold
Pleonexium
Sustainable Whaling Inc.
11
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Posted - 2016.10.28 05:59:16 -
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Since the beginning we kept saying this was a stupid idea that was hyped by the ability of establishing a market in wormhole space. Frankly I am surprised people actually invested in it. Whoever has proceeded with this proposal I doubted whether he actually lived in a WH even for a few days.
Nobody was gonna do pve in a wh with other neutrals, not even 3-5 wh jumps away. You are gonna lose your ships so fast if you do this. Forget mercs, even organized standing corp fleets won't save you if you do that.
Null freeports are a thing because its impossible to grind sov as a solo person or a few. And you have to pay rent to renters. You still have local, so you can rat in empty systems nearby or distinguish regulars from hostiles.
Its so easy to set up in a wh even for a solo dude nobody needs a freeport wh. And for all the pvp reasons you might ever need a public wh you already have Thera. And not even Thera market is that great. |
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