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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 18/12/2003 14:55:52 Change them back, they suck now... i use 2 10MN AB's on my Badger and it goes from 119 m/s and slowly to 193 m/s and my cap was dry when i arrived at gate!!! Change the Afterburners back, it was much better the way it was...
"We brake for nobody"
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BinLaden
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:16:00 -
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Get that muck off your signature matey. Maybe if people like yourself chilled out for a bit, got on with the new patch things would smooth out a bit faster.
Now heres your cookie...
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:26:00 -
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Quote: Get that muck off your signature matey. Maybe if people like yourself chilled out for a bit, got on with the new patch things would smooth out a bit faster.
Now heres your cookie...
my signature? whats wrong with it?
"We brake for nobody"
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SPUFFofDoG
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:36:00 -
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his sig is things to come
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:41:00 -
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Sad is one word that comes to mind.  ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them. |

Blueblooded
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:58:00 -
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yeaah ...and increas the speed boost to 5000% reduce the warp speed to 0.5AU when you are at it so we get more time warping and less time in space...that way we could possebly play this game without encounter any other players since that's what MMORPG is all about.
disclaimer All the above are just irony, I don't mean one ord of it. All the changes are great, this patch is great and ofcurse the dev team and all people working with and for this game are great.
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"The royal blood is blue, hence my name"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:12:00 -
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the patch is great, but the AB and MWD nerf sucks.. U wanna know why? couse some ppl dont sit infront of their pc 24/7 and play eve... ppl got a life u know and with the AB and MWD nerf, moving around will take ages...
"We brake for nobody"
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:28:00 -
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Quote: the patch is great, but the AB and MWD nerf sucks.. U wanna know why? couse some ppl dont sit infront of their pc 24/7 and play eve... ppl got a life u know and with the AB and MWD nerf, moving around will take ages...
my Vexor fell from about 2.6km/sec to 1.5km/sec, when closing w/ a gate, it's all i really need.
PS ppl cant play eve 24/7, i'd beleive 23/7 though.
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:28:00 -
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Sorry, Castor is great but gotta agree with iceblock here...
Travelling sucks, and icant even fit for it since my target area has no stations within 30 jumps...

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MORRS
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Posted - 2003.12.18 18:43:00 -
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Travelling does bite, but if Admiral Blockhead thinks that threads that start off so intelligently as his, then he is a not a very smart guy. WAH WAH WAH! I DON'T LIKE IT CHANGE IT MOMMY ! Ice grow up, and use your brain SON! 
Some people are so smart their DUMBA$$ES!!!!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.18 19:57:00 -
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im just stating the facts, what i have said is true... Maybe i didnt write it the right way but hey, at least i wrote it! 
"We brake for nobody"
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:08:00 -
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I have a raven with two of the 100mn afterbuners and after i go through 4 gates my cap is dry while traveling. I do feel the cpu requirements and the cap usage is a bit to much. I would like to see it about 70% of what it is now for cap usage and cpu usage.
I don't know much about the mwd's i never use them.
-BT
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yoni
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:42:00 -
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Yeah, Admiral IceBlock's sig is going to come to pass if CCP continues to disregard player satisfaction in their changes.
I don't have all day to fly somewhere and CCP has no reason to slow everybody down since they're not charging by the minute - it's a flat fee, so why make us miserable with this slow crap?
I need speed to evade NPC navy if I want to farm convoys, which is at least slightly more amusing than mining. And since everything is expensive, and bs insurance ridiculous, you can't just go for some PVP fun cause otherwise you have to spend another month on the treadmill to get another decent ship. Why build a game with more slaving than fun? I thought fun was the key for computer games?
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Kiil
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Posted - 2003.12.18 22:02:00 -
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AB and MWD sucks  Change the AB and MWD back
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MATANDO
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Posted - 2003.12.18 22:02:00 -
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I totally agree.
I tried to take on some of the pirates in 0.0 alone and with one other peep also.
I managed to kill some but had to flee because of caps problems, I cannot outrun them and when I try to fly away with 3 abs + 2 firing tach's my caps is dry pretty damn quick.
Do not get me wrong, I love the new tough pirates, but there is just no way of fighting 20 pirates from less then 10km, and you cannot get away either...
Gimme back my speed and I am happy ------------------------------ Audiofreaks ------------------------------ |

Miron Cozma
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Posted - 2003.12.18 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Miron Cozma on 18/12/2003 23:05:21 MWD are good how they are now. Only ONE little change they still need :P Activation time from 10 to 20 or maybe high hehe. My capacitor is at 3315 and with 1 mwd it will blow up after 3 uses . and btw ab are useless now |

Dream Weaver
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Posted - 2003.12.18 23:12:00 -
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Travel has always been at best tedious in EVE but with the latest changes it is aubsurd. The latest tweaks today on the AB's to reduce power and cap have made little improvment to travel times.
CCP has always stuggled with trying to balance PVP and will continue to do so. Making ships slower and greatly increasing travel times is not the way to do it.
Admiral IceBlock's signature is not far from the truth. Eve peaked at around 40K active subscriptions and I'd be willing to bet it is below 30K now and dropping fast. You can say EVE is not for the masses all you want but the fact remains CCP can't keep loosing money for ever. At some point either the masses start playing EVE or EVE ceases to exist.
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Krilos Nereth
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:29:00 -
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I don't see what all the fuss is about, industrial and battleships were planned to be slow and frigates very agily and fast with cruisers being the inbetween. Personally I like the changes since I only use cruisers and maybe frigates when they add the elite ones.
I found that my two LiF 100MN abs work great on my cruiser(Caldari Moa) for travel, I can do 4.5+ km/s for over 200km before running out of cap. After dropping out of warp just manualy activate each one once and within a few seconds jumping to the next system. And when not traveling I throw on two y-s8 10MN abs for combat.
Maybe this is why Helmar said cruisers are nifty ships for traveling? =)
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Artean
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:04:00 -
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Quote: the patch is great, but the AB and MWD nerf sucks.. U wanna know why? couse some ppl dont sit infront of their pc 24/7 and play eve... ppl got a life u know and with the AB and MWD nerf, moving around will take ages...
Hire someone to do your hauling, or use the courier missions, or wait till interbusses will be introduced.  ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot... |

Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:38:00 -
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Cap chargers or relays. Pretty much required for travel now.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:49:00 -
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Odd, I find my Mammoth travels faster than it did after the patch with slightly less cargo (about 700m3).
Have you tried not using so many cargo expanders and tried using RCUs/PDSs for more powerful modules and longer cap?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Phoibos
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:02:00 -
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But guys.... perhaps you should like ... not travel around so much anymore then? But be in a general area and do what you do. And when you travel you bring a lot of friends with you for protection?
This does make sense /Phoibos
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:08:00 -
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I am afraid constricted travle is not an option to all.
My area of activity is 30 jumps from the nearest station. No way to fit out my BS for travel, no use for a cruiser/frig in deep 0.0...
So please at least make AB's use a little less cap...
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.19 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 19/12/2003 14:12:15 the MWD should either be changed in lower cap usage or longer duration time... While Afterburners should be changed to longer duration time or lower cap usage and a little higher speed...
"We brake for nobody"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:04:00 -
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Bump of Fame! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Dogma2003
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dogma2003 on 19/12/2003 16:36:15 I have to agree with Admiral Iceblock here. The new Castor patch is great if they would (A) Adjust the cap draw on the new abs to 60% of your cap instead of current value and/or (B)adjust the speed back a little to where it was before the patch.
From my understanding, CCP wanted people to go more places and explore the EVE(tm) galaxy, but with cap draw/travel times to/from gates makes 24 jumps very cumbersome to say the least!
I have to say kudos and good job to CCP on everything else except for the speed change.
 *With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels.* |

EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:39:00 -
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I like the fact that my bestower holds more. And separate ab's by mass is ok. BUT!!!! if I can only do 178 m/s and they slowed down the warp out!! 2 npc's took my bestower down to 52% structure damage when I was trying to get my ore in a .5!!! because I was too slow.!!! At least before 431 or so before but 178!! your killing my ships.
Something needs to be fixed the npc are bad ass and my bestower cannot handle them. Glad they did not have missiles or I would have lost it.!!!!
Thanks EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
** Ghost Fleet Pilot **
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.19 23:45:00 -
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if only CCP could post a comment on this! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Naz Farooq
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Posted - 2003.12.20 07:20:00 -
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Tho I rather like the changes I think it would be a nice balance if there were some super-sized AB's and MWD's that you can cram onto BS's like you can do with the 100MN AB's with cruisers. How about a 1000MN AB that uses 8000 powergrid? Or a 1000MN MWD that takes 80% shields and 50% cap? How about an 8MN MWD that takes 100% shields for indies and can push em up to ~400m/s?
Sure, everyone supports saving Einstein's brain, but when you put it in the body of a Great White Shark, suddenly you've "gone too far". |

Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.21 14:21:00 -
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Quote: Tho I rather like the changes I think it would be a nice balance if there were some super-sized AB's and MWD's that you can cram onto BS's like you can do with the 100MN AB's with cruisers. How about a 1000MN AB that uses 8000 powergrid? Or a 1000MN MWD that takes 80% shields and 50% cap? How about an 8MN MWD that takes 100% shields for indies and can push em up to ~400m/s?

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