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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 09:55:00 -
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4 dual 250mm's 2 drone link augs. 1 10MN AB 4 Cap recharge 2 named LAR 4 hardenders and a cpr
Having trouble breaking their tank with 5 heavys. If i load AM and get up on them i can though its just tougher then thought it should be.
2x 1.3m BS's
skills for drones are heavy drone op 2 Drone int 4 and gallente BS 2.
Any thoughts? using kinetic drones.
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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 09:57:00 -
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Update while flying towards the 2nd and last bs and typing this post my drones flew on their own and broke the 2nd BS's tank. wtf is up with that haha.
Im confused now.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:56:00 -
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Um, I broke both their tanks (not at the same time) in a blaster Harpy once, this is one of the easiest missions at Lvl4. You using the right damage types? Or possibly using sentries when they're out of range? ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.08 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dorque skills for drones are heavy drone op 2 and gallente BS 2.
Well, get those up...
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Elain Reverse
Caldari Shokei
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Posted - 2007.03.08 12:13:00 -
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Realy weird, i am using 6-7 heavy missile lanchers and 5 light drones and i dont have problem to kill those ships at all, you should have much more DPS then me.
I was prety surprised yesterday when my dones poped BS, I was fighting other BSs and forgot about drones when sudently other BS pop and my drones was on way from wreck  Those BS was prety easy though.
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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Um, I broke both their tanks (not at the same time) in a blaster Harpy once, this is one of the easiest missions at Lvl4. You using the right damage types? Or possibly using sentries when they're out of range?
Was using 5 kinetic heavys. it was really wierd, they broke the tank of the 2nd battleship but the first one they were beating on for a good 5 minutes before i Abed up to him and had to switch to AM.
The 2nd one they broke in seconds i was really really confused
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Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:54:00 -
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Could be lag? Or were the drones elsewhere? I assume you are using the Domi?
Your main problem is the level of skills. Get to BS IV quickly. I would go BS III, Heavy III, BS IV, then Heavy IV.
Duo of Death is one of my favourite missions b/c it is quick to do (with proper skills of course). I usually have 3-4 350mm rails on my Domi to assist my Wasps/Ogres to knock out the Ravens/Megas. I don't even bother with the spiders until the turrets (use sentries on them) then rats are dead.
Don't forget to loot all the structures also (: ....
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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 08/03/2007 13:55:39 Could be lag? Or were the drones elsewhere? I assume you are using the Domi?
Your main problem is the level of skills. Get to BS IV quickly. I would go BS III, Heavy III, BS IV, then Heavy IV.
Duo of Death is one of my favourite missions b/c it is quick to do (with proper skills of course). I usually have 3-4 350mm rails on my Domi to assist my Wasps/Ogres to knock out the Ravens/Megas. I don't even bother with the spiders until the turrets (use sentries on them) then rats are dead.
Don't forget to loot all the structures also (:
Edit: The second drone link auggie is useless in this mission. In fact, the ships tend to keep within 10-40 km (depending on which rats you are fighting). So if your scout drone skill is lvl 4, which will give you a 40 km control range, then you can drop both the auggies and load an extra gun or two (or use a Nos to gain what little energy you may be able to siphon).
Thanks for the help :D. Ya ill have to get those skills up
Ya i was using the domi.
The drone link augs are there because i use the sentries to pop frigs out at 70km etc. Normally the setup should have some nos but i went with guns to break tanks.
NOTE: im pretty much following the how to domis in level 4's post just down the thread.
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Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 08/03/2007 14:43:40 Want the ez button for the Domi, if you like sentries and have the patience? (Someone hinted at this in the thread by SR.)
Two augmentors + 1 sensor booster + omindirectional tracking link = dead rat carcasses starting from 90 km or so inward. Cruisers and frigates can't touch you before the 50 or 40 km radius, and they are usually destroyed by your sentries and guns well before then (: ....
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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 08/03/2007 14:43:40 Want the ez button for the Domi, if you like sentries and have the patience? (Someone hinted at this in the thread by SR.)
Two augmentors + 1 sensor booster + omindirectional tracking link = dead rat carcasses starting from 90 km or so inward. Cruisers and frigates can't touch you before the 50 or 40 km radius, and they are usually destroyed by your sentries and guns well before then (:
Awsome. Ya i just use the sentries to pop every frig/cruiser i can before they hit 40 km and i pop out the heavys to finish everything off.
One question though in large aggro missions, like my first lvl 4 ever today, The assault. They were breaking my tank till i decided to kill the battleship spamming torps.
Is it always better to take out battleships before cruisers on those massive aggro situations?
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Ghan Tylous
Caldari The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dorque
Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 08/03/2007 14:43:40 Want the ez button for the Domi, if you like sentries and have the patience? (Someone hinted at this in the thread by SR.)
Two augmentors + 1 sensor booster + omindirectional tracking link = dead rat carcasses starting from 90 km or so inward. Cruisers and frigates can't touch you before the 50 or 40 km radius, and they are usually destroyed by your sentries and guns well before then (:
Awsome. Ya i just use the sentries to pop every frig/cruiser i can before they hit 40 km and i pop out the heavys to finish everything off.
One question though in large aggro missions, like my first lvl 4 ever today, The assault. They were breaking my tank till i decided to kill the battleship spamming torps.
Is it always better to take out battleships before cruisers on those massive aggro situations?
If there are alot of cruisers and BCs, kill those first. They spam either light missiles and heavy missiles (well at least the guristas do). They go down fast, so you can eat yourself through the tanks of the BSs --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many |

Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 16:31:00 -
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Agreed. In most missions, you typically eliminate the smallest ships first b/c of their aggregate damage tend to be greater than those of battleships. Besides, they are easier to kill but more important, they can tackle. There are some missions in which I just let the frigates tackle me as much as they want b/c I am happily nailing the incoming cruisers and bigger ships with my little warden friends and guns. Battleships do large damage PER hit, but their RoF can be pretty slow (excluding Zor) and at long distances, do not hit as frequently as heavy and standard missiles.
The Assault is another easy mission if you snipe BUT you gotta have good skills again (: It may get boring not to be front and center, face-to-face pounding the enemy with blasters, but it saves me a lot of trouble of having to worry about tanking. Another downside though is the run to the gate is a bit far in most cases /: ....
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.09 11:55:00 -
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This sounds wierd perhaps, but I do Duo of Death level 4 with 2 heavy NOS and 4 large lasers (dual heavy beams). Reason? Simple, really. The structures are worth killing, but in anything that uses ammo they use a stupid amount of it.
The lasers also help with killing the BS, but if your cap starts dropping turn off some of the guns. I can run 4 dual beams + repper + hardeners forever, but my cap skills are maxed.
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.09 16:37:00 -
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Really: NEVER EVER use those dual250mm again. omg o_0. Those weapons are in the game only "on paper", they have no real purpose or use.
Fit at least 6,7,8 x 350mm (depending on which ship), maybe 425mm And if you really wanna do level4 missions for some time, train raven.
The time it needs to train Gallente BS IV and Heavy Drones IV alone is more than sufficent to get all raven skills high enough to do level4 missions twice as good. -- This game is still in beta stage |

Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.09 19:33:00 -
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The time required to achieve BS IV is the same for all races, as are Cruiser IV and Heavy Drone IV skills.
Sure the raven is king of PvE, but seeing that he has a substantial amount of time vested into the Gallente line, I think he should continue and get to a point where he can do most of Lvl 4s comfortably before switching over. ....
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Christopher Dalran
Gallente Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.09 22:23:00 -
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Every now and again from time to time drones get stuck in some quarky mode where they do almoast no damage. I dont know what causes this, maybee they get stuck in MWD mode or something. At any rate if you see you drones doing signifigantly less damage then you know they should be recall them and tell them to attack once they start heading back. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
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Elain Reverse
Caldari Shokei
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Posted - 2007.03.10 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dorque
Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Edited by: Remedios Sonrisa on 08/03/2007 14:43:40 Want the ez button for the Domi, if you like sentries and have the patience? (Someone hinted at this in the thread by SR.)
Two augmentors + 1 sensor booster + omindirectional tracking link = dead rat carcasses starting from 90 km or so inward. Cruisers and frigates can't touch you before the 50 or 40 km radius, and they are usually destroyed by your sentries and guns well before then (:
Awsome. Ya i just use the sentries to pop every frig/cruiser i can before they hit 40 km and i pop out the heavys to finish everything off.
One question though in large aggro missions, like my first lvl 4 ever today, The assault. They were breaking my tank till i decided to kill the battleship spamming torps.
Is it always better to take out battleships before cruisers on those massive aggro situations?
Depend on your ship, in time i can kill 1 BS in drake, i coud probably pop 15+ frigs and cruisers.
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Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:22:00 -
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This is one of the fastest missions in the game. I don't even refit for it.
Warp in F1-F7 on first BS F1-F7 on second BS Warp out
Then again, things are much easier with a CNR and 4 BCU II's in the lows  ------------------------------------- The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns!
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Waga
Twin Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.10 21:42:00 -
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Target Painter II
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.10 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Waga Target Painter II
with required skills
What're you using, a Phoenix? ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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