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Sekh Ondaari	Posted - 2007.03.08 10:53:00 - [1] This is in no way a complaint or question of balance. Its merely a question about facts. Whats the fastest you can imagine a nanobs reaching? Im presuming full snakes, domi nanos, gist x mwd, t2 rigs etc, whatever you can do to make it reach that astronomical speed. Obviously full skills. Reason is, I got thrown at me that 10km/s is a huge exageration, wich I quite swiftly proved it was not, but what speeds do you expect is reachable? Highest estimate so far is 25km/s wich did sound a bit out of the blue.
maGz Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.03.08 11:01:00 - [2] I've had a Nanophoon going 12k+ but that's not even close to some of the Machs I've seen run around the north. ____________ Coming soon...
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc. Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2007.03.08 11:04:00 - [3] ye does nano-machs / mac10s... really have some serious speeds going TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.03.08 11:21:00 - [4] Edited by: Aramendel on 08/03/2007 11:23:48 A nanophoon with the best of the best fittings, rigs, implants and ganglinks and which is using all lows for speedmods can reach 20 km/s. A nanomach will be prolly a bit faster, but not by a significant amount. To compare, a similarily equipped/boosted crusader should reach 28-29 km/s.
Sekh Ondaari	Posted - 2007.03.08 11:22:00 - [5] Edited by: Sekh Ondaari on 08/03/2007 11:20:08 I tried playing around with it a bit in Quickfit, but as you probably know, that wouldnt allow me to do everything I wanted. It did however give me a speed of 8200.429 m/s, wich im entirely sure its incorrect. Current fitting there is: Machariel Gist X-type 100Mn MWD 5x Domination Overdrive Injectors 2x Local Hull iStabs (Rest are empty) 2x Propellant Injection Vent I's 1x Propellant Injection Vent II Implants are: Slot 1-6: Snake(not included in Qfit) Slot 7: Shaqil's Speed Enhancer - +8% Velocity Slot 8: Zor's Hyper-link - +5% AB/MWD speed. Slot 10: Hardwiring - Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' MY-2 - +5% AB/MWD speed.(Not included in Qfit) Navigation and Acceleration Control at 5 of course. What have I missed, and is anyone more familiar with the mechanics able to give me a speed of this setup? Also, gangbonuses are not included, Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid deployment should add to it, so should the skills skirmish warfare and in a way Skirmish Warfare specialist.
Phish1 Liberty Forces Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 13:34:00 - [6] mach hands down
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.08 13:38:00 - [7] That seems about right and should give you a base speed of about 16k/s (roughly). Add to that the 15% for gang+mindlink skills and the 37.5% to mwd speed and you'll be in the region of 23k/s. sgb (by the way, the above means EVE = broken)
Vegetto Ichikai Caldari Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 14:00:00 - [8] Quickfit is totally wrong on every ship setup i've tried when it comes to speed. It's like 1km/s+ off on my crow and all the mods/rigs/stats are correctly in. Basically, i don't think it's calculating mass or agility calculations correctly.
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.08 16:29:00 - [9] It's gonna depend a fair bit whether your going for silly speed or actual pvp speed. I.e. if you're just trying to hit an uber top speed u can fill your lows with overdrives, but you won't be able to turn for s*t. If you intend to pvp however and actually remain within 20-30km, you'll need i-stabs and nanos. I believe (though I may be wrong) the ideal combination for speed+manuverability on a nanobs is 3 i-stabs and the rest domi nanos, atleast that's what it was on my raven. Foxor : targets are lewt, just not yet in can form* Hi
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:04:00 - [10] Interesting choice of sig there Angelus, you a fan of horse tranquilizers?
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:15:00 - [11] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 08/03/2007 17:14:26 Through fiddling with my spreadsheet, I calculate that it is possible to get a Machariel up to approximately 32,281m/s. NB: This involves using strong X-Instinct combat boosters and requires maximum gang bonuses from a squadron leader with a Claymore, not to mention all sorts of other kit ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :)
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:26:00 - [12] I believe someone posted picks of an astarte going ~43KM/sec on test server with guardians sitting along a pre-planned route to give it the cap needed to run the gistii 100mn MWD :D snip. Signature inappropriate - Valorem
reaTh Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:33:00 - [13] Edited by: reaTh on 08/03/2007 17:29:52 Originally by: welsh wizard Interesting choice of sig there Angelus, you a fan of horse tranquilizers? I made that sig and yes he is then flying overexpensive crows and losing them to rifters Originally by: hired goon IRON beat BoB in the majority of the fleet battles the two were involved
Phish1 Liberty Forces Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:33:00 - [14] lol, oversized mods 4TW! course that must have been using overdrives, turning would have been pretty damn shoddy.
xenodia Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Sekh Ondaari This is in no way a complaint or question of balance. Its merely a question about facts. Whats the fastest you can imagine a nanobs reaching? Im presuming full snakes, domi nanos, gist x mwd, t2 rigs etc, whatever you can do to make it reach that astronomical speed. Obviously full skills. Reason is, I got thrown at me that 10km/s is a huge exageration, wich I quite swiftly proved it was not, but what speeds do you expect is reachable? Highest estimate so far is 25km/s wich did sound a bit out of the blue. 12-15k is doable for a phoon. I see those all the time. I think a mach can do faster than that. Ive only encountered one nano-mach, and it was going "ludicrous speed" to quote Spaceballs. This signature space for rent
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:47:00 - [16] Originally by: reaTh Edited by: reaTh on 08/03/2007 17:29:52 Originally by: welsh wizard Interesting choice of sig there Angelus, you a fan of horse tranquilizers? I made that sig and yes he is then flying overexpensive crows and losing them to rifters tsk! :D
Ratey	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Vegetto Ichikai Quickfit is totally wrong on every ship setup i've tried when it comes to speed. It's like 1km/s+ off on my crow and all the mods/rigs/stats are correctly in. Basically, i don't think it's calculating mass or agility calculations correctly. It was pretty close for me, but was a bit off figuring in istabs and overdrive combos. Based on quickfit, I chose propellent vent speed boost rig over the wieght reducing one, (housing something or other)
Riho Gallente Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.03.09 18:26:00 - [18] the fastest nano ship ingame atm is a zealot... 50km/s or something stupid whit best implants, hardwire crap.. best mods whit gangbonuses Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- <------ Hijack free space :) -----------------
Wrayeth Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:05:00 - [19] The fastest nano-BS that I know of is piloted by Zeroh, a former corpmate of mine. It's a machariel that goes 13,000m/s in a straight line, and 12,000m/s while orbiting. It's just stupid. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 08/03/2007 17:14:26 Through fiddling with my spreadsheet, I calculate that it is possible to get a Machariel up to approximately 32,281m/s. NB: This involves using strong X-Instinct combat boosters and requires maximum gang bonuses from a squadron leader with a Claymore, not to mention all sorts of other kit If you're going to do that, use a command ship with Gist 100mn MWD. Its faster. --23 Member-- EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:27:00 - [21] So here's a question for you calculations guys - how fast could you get a Phantasm going? Too bad you can't deal damage ramming with the spikes... Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Templer Relleg x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:59:00 - [22] I believe its the nightmare
Ahz	Posted - 2007.03.09 22:15:00 - [23] What's the working nanophoon setup? I hear people talking about these crazy speeds but I can't get my 'phoon anywhere close to these numbers. Lows = 7xnanos + 100mn micro. Navigation level 5 Top speed is roughly 2,300. I'm missing something. Note: I've only been playing for a few months and I'm just over 4 mil skillpoints.
dabster Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.09 22:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Wrayeth The fastest nano-BS that I know of is piloted by Zeroh, a former corpmate of mine. It's a machariel that goes 13,000m/s in a straight line, and 12,000m/s while orbiting. It's just stupid. I believe he jumped into highsec whilst being outlaw and lost that Mach to npc navy though ^^ ___________________________ Trust In Rust!
dabster Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.09 22:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Ahz What's the working nanophoon setup? I hear people talking about these crazy speeds but I can't get my 'phoon anywhere close to these numbers. Lows = 7xnanos + 100mn micro. Navigation level 5 Top speed is roughly 2,300. I'm missing something. Note: I've only been playing for a few months and I'm just over 4 mil skillpoints. rigs implants more skillpoints in navigation (acceleration control) ___________________________ Trust In Rust!
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.03.10 03:56:00 - [26] And in addition to that: - not using instabs (5nanos/2instabs or 4nanos/3instabs are the best combos) - using base t1 or lowgrade named Lvl 4 acc con + 3 vent rigs + t2 MWD are almost twice as fast as none of that + t1 MWD 5 t2 nanos + 2 LH instabs are also a 40% speed boost compared to 7 t1 nanos. Both combined gives about a 2.5 times higher speed.
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.12 03:45:00 - [27] Well Entity's machariel goes 14,400ish. _________________________________________
Shayla Sh'inlux The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.12 06:58:00 - [28] Originally by: dabster Originally by: Wrayeth The fastest nano-BS that I know of is piloted by Zeroh, a former corpmate of mine. It's a machariel that goes 13,000m/s in a straight line, and 12,000m/s while orbiting. It's just stupid. I believe he jumped into highsec whilst being outlaw and lost that Mach to npc navy though ^^ He did :-) I think it went more like 15 km/sec tho. His new one got killed thanks to a triple 90% web Astarte about 10 minutes after he left the corp and tried to pirate his former friends Discussing moderation is a no-no- Tirg
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.12 07:45:00 - [29] Fastest nanoship ever is a zealot,fastest bs would be the mach. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.03.12 09:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 08/03/2007 17:14:26 Through fiddling with my spreadsheet, I calculate that it is possible to get a Machariel up to approximately 32,281m/s. NB: This involves using strong X-Instinct combat boosters and requires maximum gang bonuses from a squadron leader with a Claymore, not to mention all sorts of other kit If you're going to do that, use a command ship with Gist 100mn MWD. Its faster. The OP was asking about battleships, not CBCs; I'm well aware that smaller ships can go faster if you fit them with the same kit. At the moment, however, I'd say that the Zealot would be the fastest overall- cruiser mass, 7 low slots, and enough grid to fit the MWD you mentioned. Of course, you then need a team of people set up dozens of km apart to transfer cap if you want to actually attain those speeds... ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :) Army of doom headcount: 26,045

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