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Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:10:12 - [1] - Quote I was really put off by CCP endorsing the Church of Latter Day Saints in station. I thought Eve was fairly secular historically. The religion in game is fairly vague and fantasy-oriented. This was a real world church being plastered all over the walls of the station every few minutes. What's going on? The Mormon church is garbage, I don't want to have anything to do with it. My friends and family have been abused by the church. There's a lot of people who would be very offended by this. People have had their lives ruined by the Mormon Church. They're a bunch of bigamists who have completely destroyed Utah. The problem is they have all this money and they can't do anything with it because everything they touch turns to poison. For a while they were managing hospitals but they had to get out of that business because they were terrible at it. Someone at CCP must support the Mormon Church. They should at least have the courtesy to cloak it, like "Quafe" or whatever as a stand-in for meth. Allowing the Church of Latter Day Saints to be advertised sets a terrible precedent and it should not be allowed. The thing is I cannot help but feel like it is no accident. You know?
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:13:51 - [2] - Quote Huh, ISD is late to the party I guess. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:16:46 - [3] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Huh, ISD is late to the party I guess. I hope you're talking about the banner ad in the station because this is a valid concern any paying customer would have - just the same as if the Catholic Church or ISIS was allowed to advertise openly in stations, people would be offended, others will take offense to this. I don't go around advertising my religious beliefs in game and I certainly don't expect them to be shoved down people's throats on the walls of a game they pay real money for with a historical precedent for secularism. This conversation will go elsewhere if not here, and so will subscriptions.
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:24:11 - [4] - Quote Pics or it didn't happen GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:27:20 - [5] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17831	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:27:55 - [6] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: I was really put off by CCP endorsing the Church of Latter Day Saints in station. I thought Eve was fairly secular historically. The religion in game is fairly vague and fantasy-oriented. This was a real world church being plastered all over the walls of the station every few minutes. What's going on? The Mormon church is garbage, I don't want to have anything to do with it. My friends and family have been abused by the church. There's a lot of people who would be very offended by this. People have had their lives ruined by the Mormon Church. They're a bunch of bigamists who have completely destroyed Utah. The problem is they have all this money and they can't do anything with it because everything they touch turns to poison. For a while they were managing hospitals but they had to get out of that business because they were terrible at it. Someone at CCP must support the Mormon Church. They should at least have the courtesy to cloak it, like "Quafe" or whatever as a stand-in for meth. Allowing the Church of Latter Day Saints to be advertised sets a terrible precedent and it should not be allowed. The thing is I cannot help but feel like it is no accident. You know? It isn't an accident. You got trolled, and bit harder than a starving trout at the first delicious mayfly of spring. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:29:51 - [7] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13671	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:39:10 - [8] - Quote Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:40:37 - [9] - Quote Uh, okay, so I logged in and saw the ad, and it's for a player-run corp. It's also not called the church of latter day saints, it's just called "Latter Day Saints". There are three corps in game with this phrase in the name, and in case you haven't read the EULA, this isn't a breach of it. Nor does it mean that CCP endorses the church of latter day saints. You are overreacting to someone having some harmless fun, and Malcanis is right, you got triggered hard. Nana Skalski wrote: Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:40:47 - [10] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. It's actually impossible for me since I am streaming to my Shield TV remotely via Windows Remote Desktop off my 980 to a TV set, as far as I can tell there is no way to do it except physically by USB at a later date.
Deck Cadelanne CAStabouts 341	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:41:24 - [11] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. OP is enraged by the rotating in-station advert having showing one for "Latter Day Saints" a corp. Screenshot Corp information suggests said corp has nothing to do with any real-world religious organization. OP maybe needs to be a little less over-sensitive. *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:43:20 - [12] - Quote Deck Cadelanne wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. OP is enraged by the rotating in-station advert having showing one for "Latter Day Saints" a corp. Screenshot Corp information suggests said corp has nothing to do with any real-world religious organization. OP maybe needs to be a little less over-sensitive. That's bullshit. Joseph Smith is a real historical character who came up with that term. No one else has been associated with the name "The Latter Day Saints' besides the Mormon Church. There's no difference between the two. Two other corps are actively proselytizing in their corp ad, did you forget to mention that or did you just not notice?
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7618	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:46:54 - [13] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Deck Cadelanne wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. OP is enraged by the rotating in-station advert having showing one for "Latter Day Saints" a corp. Screenshot Corp information suggests said corp has nothing to do with any real-world religious organization. OP maybe needs to be a little less over-sensitive. That's bullshit. Joseph Smith is a real historical character who came up with that term. No one else has been associated with the name "The Latter Day Saints' besides the Mormon Church. There's no difference between the two. Two other corps are actively proselytizing in their corp ad, did you forget to mention that or did you just not notice? Are you telling me that the phrase Latter Day Saints can only be exclusive to the Mormon faith? Mate, you're taking your secularism way too far, and need to chill. I'm an atheist and a strong believer in and fighter for secularism in all public things, but you're really reaching. That, or you're trolling. Either way, you've gone full potato on this one. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Deck Cadelanne CAStabouts 342	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:49:48 - [14] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Deck Cadelanne wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pics or it didn't happen It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization. I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard. OP is enraged by the rotating in-station advert having showing one for "Latter Day Saints" a corp. Screenshot Corp information suggests said corp has nothing to do with any real-world religious organization. OP maybe needs to be a little less over-sensitive. That's bullshit. Joseph Smith is a real historical character who came up with that term. No one else has been associated with the name "The Latter Day Saints' besides the Mormon Church. There's no difference between the two. Two other corps are actively proselytizing for the real thing in their corp ad, did you forget to mention that or did you just not notice? I've seen religious corps in Eve and I don't have a problem with a bunch of religious fanatics playing together, but when their ads are forced on me then I am going to take issue with it. You're not supposed to be able to bring real world-corporations into Eve since the last EULA update anyways - I don't know what that ruling was targeting, maybe the gambling sites. I'd like to know exactly CCP's stance is on this so I can respond. Make my own religious organization and plaster my ads in station if need be. We could make their little pretense hard to live with. You seem unable to differentiate between a video game and real life. I see literally no reference to the real life church or to Joseph Smith in either the video or the corp description. I am aware of the other two corps (which obviously should both meet the ban hammer, for obvious reasons - but they are not the ones involved in your rant) You want to rage about this, file a ticket. The forums are not the right place for this. *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:50:00 - [15] - Quote Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified Joseph Smith just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church invented the term. It's what they are officially called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Even if you invented one to prove a point it wouldn't make a difference because that is how they are known, and they got there first. They've made hundreds of millions of dollars under that name. "Mormons" is just a nickname. If you had a corp named Microsoft or Catholic Church or Electronic Arts or Amtrak you wouldn't mistake them for someone else if they showed up on a billboard in Eve just because it is a video game? Tell that to a court you know it wouldn't fly. And I'm not buying that Latter Day Saints has nothing to do with the corporation religion of the same name.
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7618	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:52:48 - [16] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified Joseph Smith just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church invented the term. It's what they are officially called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Again, it's harmless fun. As advised, if it really 'offends' you so you can file a ticket, but it's likely that nothing will happen, because it hasn't broken any rules. You're other option is, don't play, because if you're going to be this hypersensitive about a harmless corp name, then the rest of EVE is going to be utter torture. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7619	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:57:11 - [17] - Quote Honestly though, at the end of the day, for you to take a corp name and link it to CCP endorsing what that name may or may not realistically represent, that's some proper mental gymnastics right there. I have a corp on an alt called Electric Shock Ministries. Does CCP endorse electric shock therapy as well now? Never go full potato. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13672	Posted - 2016.07.17 09:58:12 - [18] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism. I wasnt writing about in game religions, Game creators stated there is no islam, christianity and other such in New Eden. I saw christian ads in EVE. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:01:25 - [19] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified Joseph Smith just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church invented the term. It's what they are officially called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Again, it's harmless fun. As advised, if it really 'offends' you so you can file a ticket, but it's likely that nothing will happen. You're other option is, don't play, because if you're going to be this hypersensitive about a harmless corp name, then the rest of EVE is going to be utter torture. You're an opinionated, Im sure of that, obviously you have never had any dealings with the Mormon Church. They ruin people's lives and I don't want to financially support their godamned message in any platform, whether it's a fantasy romance novel about Joseph Smith and his 50 wives or a fantasy sci-fi game set in the future. Fiction or reality, I don't want any of my money going towards their pathetic crap.
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7619	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:02:06 - [20] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism. I wasnt writing about in game religions, Lore states there is no islam, christianity and other such. I saw christian ads in EVE. Yeah, because some people run corps advertised for Christian members so they can have an exclusive christian community. So what? There are female-only corps as well, for women that are uncomfortable playing with men. So what? They can have their 'safe spaces' if they want, as long as they don't expect the rest of EVE to conform to their personal reasons for being in that community. There are no rules against this. You don't have to join a Christian corp. No one is trying to make you. How is that 'immersion breaking'? Just seeing them? Uh oh, muh immersion is bruck by people playing the game the way they want to, what do? Get out. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Deck Cadelanne CAStabouts 343	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:04:06 - [21] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified Joseph Smith just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church invented the term. It's what they are officially called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Even if you invented one to prove a point it wouldn't make a difference because that is how they are known, and they got there first. They've made hundreds of millions of dollars under that name. "Mormons" is just a nickname. If you had a corp named Microsoft or Catholic Church or Electronic Arts or Amtrak you wouldn't mistake them for someone else if they showed up on a billboard in Eve just because it is a video game? Tell that to a court you know it wouldn't fly. And I'm not buying that Latter Day Saints has nothing to do with the corporation religion of the same name. I already pointed out to you that beyond a corp name, said corp appears to have no relation to said real world religious sect. But you have convinced yourself otherwise, because you are apparently unable to differentiate between real life and videogame. You are clearly so consumed with rage that you are immune to reason, so go file a ticket. ISD needs to lock this thread. *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:05:20 - [22] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism. I wasnt writing about in game religions, Lore states there is no islam, christianity and other such. I saw christian ads in EVE. Yeah, because some people run corps advertised for Christian members so they can have an exclusive christian community. So what? There are female-only corps as well, for women that are uncomfortable playing with men. So what? They can have their 'safe spaces' if they want, as long as they don't expect the rest of EVE to conform to their personal reasons for being in that community. There are no rules against this. You don't have to join a Christian corp. No one is trying to make you. How is that 'immersion breaking'? Just seeing them? Uh oh, muh immersion is bruck by people playing the game the way they want to, what do? Get out. Like I said, an opinionated , "Get Out" LOL And a last word freak too I see. There's a big difference between special interest groups and a very specific church advertising a very specific message to non-believers under an official banner plastered in the faces of people who DO NOT want to see them. Eve is for playing Eve, it isn't for pushing real world agendas of any kind.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13672	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:07:58 - [23] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Player Ads for some prominent religious cults that are in real life look terrible in EVE. Breaks immersion. What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism. I wasnt writing about in game religions, Lore states there is no islam, christianity and other such. I saw christian ads in EVE. Yeah, because some people run corps advertised for Christian members so they can have an exclusive christian community. So what? There are female-only corps as well, for women that are uncomfortable playing with men. So what? They can have their 'safe spaces' if they want, as long as they don't expect the rest of EVE to conform to their personal reasons for being in that community. There are no rules against this. You don't have to join a Christian corp. No one is trying to make you. How is that 'immersion breaking'? Just seeing them? Uh oh, muh immersion is bruck by people playing the game the way they want to, what do? Get out. Trashing the space as forums with real life religions, same applies to politics, is not good, ok? It can be reported and surely will be removed. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7619	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:08:31 - [24] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Izi Ningishzidda wrote: Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified Joseph Smith just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church invented the term. It's what they are officially called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Again, it's harmless fun. As advised, if it really 'offends' you so you can file a ticket, but it's likely that nothing will happen. You're other option is, don't play, because if you're going to be this hypersensitive about a harmless corp name, then the rest of EVE is going to be utter torture. You're an opinionated, Im sure of that, obviously you have never had any dealings with the Mormon Church. They ruin people's lives and I don't want to financially support their godamned message in any platform, whether it's a fantasy romance novel about Joseph Smith and his 50 wives or a fantasy sci-fi game set in the future. Fiction or reality, I don't want any of my money going towards their pathetic crap. Really? You think your money is going to this corp? Is that why you won't pay? OMG. I've had dealings with more churches than you probably even know exist, mate. I've had scientologist lawyers knocking on my door at 6am (yes, lawyers, plural) threatening me with lawsuits for articles I've written. You are making mountains out of molehills, you really are. Whatever you were a victim of, these players weren't the culprit, so actually, you need to get the **** over it, and HTFU. Play, don't play, the game is better off with hypersensitive people like you anyway, so it won't be losing anything if you leave. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7619	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:09:45 - [25] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Trashing the space as forums with real life religions, same applies to politics, is not good, ok? It can be reported and surely will be removed. Both you and the OP need to get a better grip on reality, so you can learn how it differs from fantasy. Promoting religion in game is, in fact, against the rules. That's not happening here, and religiously themed corps are not against the rules. Allahu Ackbar. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13672	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:13:07 - [26] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Trashing the space as forums with real life religions, same applies to politics, is not good, ok? It can be reported and surely will be removed. Both you and the OP need to get a better grip on reality, so you can learn how it differs from fantasy. Promoting religion in game is, in fact, against the rules. That's not happening here, and religiously themed corps are not against the rules. Allahu Ackbar. I dont want reality religion ads in a game, Game is escapism. I have enough real **** in real life. Ok? Get over it. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7619	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:14:06 - [27] - Quote Izi Ningishzidda wrote: There's a big difference between special interest groups and a very specific church advertising a very specific message to non-believers under an official banner plastered in the faces of people who DO NOT want to see them. Eve is for playing Eve, it isn't for pushing real world agendas of any kind. None of that is happening here. None of it. "I don't want to see it" is not a reason to get rid of it, either, because I could just as easily say, I don't wanna see you, and you can see our predicament, can't you? GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7620	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:17:23 - [28] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Trashing the space as forums with real life religions, same applies to politics, is not good, ok? It can be reported and surely will be removed. Both you and the OP need to get a better grip on reality, so you can learn how it differs from fantasy. Promoting religion in game is, in fact, against the rules. That's not happening here, and religiously themed corps are not against the rules. Allahu Ackbar. I dont want reality religion ads in a game, Game is escapism. I have enough real ** in real life. Ok? Get over it. I don't want you in the game. You're too serious and you're ruining my escapism. I have to deal with enough people like you in my real life. Ok? Get over it. Do you see how personal problems are not anyone else's problem but your own? There are no religious ads in the game. It's an ad for a player corp, with a name that is taken from a religious organisation, but does nothing to represent it. Or maybe it does, but for the sake of telescoping itself to RL mormon players who want that mormon community. So what? This really is just a personal subjective problem for you and the OP, and you can throw all the tantrums you want about it, but this corp, as far as I can tell, hasn't done anything that you're suggesting, and all of this has exploded from a simple ***** ad which does nothing to promote any religious agenda. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:17:58 - [29] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: I've had dealings with more churches than you probably even know exist, mate. I've had scientologist lawyers knocking on my door at 6am (yes, lawyers, plural) threatening me with lawsuits for articles I've written. You are making mountains out of molehills, you really are. Whatever you were a victim of, these players weren't the culprit, so actually, you need to get the **** over it, and HTFU. Play, don't play, the game is better off with hypersensitive people like you anyway, so it won't be losing anything if you leave. I don't need to get over anything, I know exactly where I stand, and why. I don't care if Eve or other people lose anything by my leaving or not. I only care about my experience with the game. God what a self centered opinionated you are to think that everyone has to impress you or others to find enjoyment in the game. You may be a godamned Mormon yourself for all I care but I would feel the exact same way if The Church of Satan was throwing their ad up in stations. Religion does not belong in game, not especially where it is as abusive and monstrous as the Latter Day Saints. Christian special interest groups are a completely different story. They are non-specific interest groups nothing less nothing more. But I don't want to see Jesus popping up in the stations to tell me he saves.
Izi Ningishzidda Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.07.17 10:21:08 - [30] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Trashing the space as forums with real life religions, same applies to politics, is not good, ok? It can be reported and surely will be removed. Both you and the OP need to get a better grip on reality, so you can learn how it differs from fantasy. Promoting religion in game is, in fact, against the rules. That's not happening here, and religiously themed corps are not against the rules. Allahu Ackbar. I dont want reality religion ads in a game, Game is escapism. I have enough real ** in real life. Ok? Get over it. I don't want you in the game. You're too serious and you're ruining my escapism. I have to deal with enough people like you in my real life. Ok? Get over it. Do you see how personal problems are not anyone else's problem but your own? There are no religious ads in the game. It's an ad for a player corp, with a name that is taken from a religious organisation, but does nothing to represent it. Or maybe it does, but for the sake of telescoping itself to RL mormon players who want that mormon community. So what? This really is just a personal subjective problem for you and the OP, and you can throw all the tantrums you want about it, but this corp, as far as I can tell, hasn't done anything that you're suggesting, and all of this has exploded from a simple ***** ad which does nothing to promote any religious agenda. God what a narcissist.

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