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Dalanoria
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dalanoria on 08/03/2007 13:24:05 j/k
But if they did, we could all expect to be well balanced, so balanced infact that everyone would fly the same ship, with the same skill pts...
*RIP* SWG
Before we become the cry baby community that haunts games like WOW (gg u cant make anyone happy even with easy mode).Lets remember what happens to mmo's that balance everything.
Ive been in the game 10 months, everyone kicks my butt as it should be. I can go make a overpowered WOW char and own faces in 2 months..If I wanted easy mode.
If a guy has 5 billion isk burning a hole in his pocket, who the hell are you for saying he cant fly a Typhoon at 12k m/s..
Theres like 100 people in the game that can afford that....
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 08/03/2007 13:24:05 j/k
But if they did, we could all expect to be well balanced, so balanced infact that everyone would fly the same ship, with the same skill pts...
*RIP* SWG
Before we become the cry baby community that haunts games like WOW (gg u cant make anyone happy even with easy mode).Lets remember what happens to mmo's that balance everything.
Ive been in the game 10 months, everyone kicks my butt as it should be. I can go make a overpowered WOW char and own faces in 2 months..If I wanted easy mode.
If a guy has 5 billion isk burning a hole in his pocket, who the hell are you for saying he cant fly a Typhoon at 12k m/s..
Theres like 100 people in the game that can afford that....
Wierd that there's so many flying around then :p
The problem's not the rare ships with full snake etc that actually do over 15k/s, it's with the thousands of bs that happily fly at around 5-6k/s for not much isk investment.
sgb
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:33:00 -
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****N C**T!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER SCARE ME LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!! /me curses you!
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 08/03/2007 13:24:05 j/k
But if they did, we could all expect to be well balanced, so balanced infact that everyone would fly the same ship, with the same skill pts...
*RIP* SWG
Before we become the cry baby community that haunts games like WOW (gg u cant make anyone happy even with easy mode).Lets remember what happens to mmo's that balance everything.
Ive been in the game 10 months, everyone kicks my butt as it should be. I can go make a overpowered WOW char and own faces in 2 months..If I wanted easy mode.
If a guy has 5 billion isk burning a hole in his pocket, who the hell are you for saying he cant fly a Typhoon at 12k m/s..
Theres like 100 people in the game that can afford that....
there's way more then 100 people in game with 5bill+ isk
prolly closer to 1000
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 08/03/2007 13:43:15 Then they would introduce the Battle-fit-cRuiser (BFR) that will be soo powerful that everyone gets it, but no one ever seems to lose "unless to another BFR that is". But to balance it they would make it so you can only buy one every hour.
Sorry, couldn't resist . __________________________
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Dalanoria
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:42:00 -
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Well, I dont know how many people can invest 500+ mill in a nano bs.
But id rather face a nano bs then a heavy nos bs.....
I just dont want ccp to make a easy mode game hoping to boost their subscriptions, it doesnt work...
*RIP* SWG
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Kelsenn
Amarr Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 08/03/2007 13:35:58 [Then they would introduce the Battle-fit-cRuiser (BFR) that will be soo powerful that everyone gets it, but no one ever seems to lose "unless to another BFR that is". But to balance it they would make it so you can only buy one every hour.
Sorry, couldn't resist .
And to "balance" it even more, they would nerf it so bad a frigate with EM missiles could kill it solo.
BFR's are easy to kill, get some jammer nades, some deci's, get on an ATV, ride up under it and hot drop off the ATV, jammer it then unleash the deci's. Dead BFR in seconds.
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Galen Silas
Gallente Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria Well, I dont know how many people can invest 500+ mill in a nano bs.
But id rather face a nano bs then a heavy nos bs.....
I just dont want ccp to make a easy mode game hoping to boost their subscriptions, it doesnt work...
*RIP* SWG
Not intending to be a smartass but thats what nano-ships pretty much do, they stay out of your range and nos you and pelt you with longer range and drones. Preferably missiles I believe.
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Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:23:00 -
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NOT FUNNY! SOE will never get another penny from me, not after they butchered SWG into the moronic game that it is today for the kiddies en masse.  ....
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Sir Dancealot
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:51:00 -
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oh god gtfo.
If they even CONSIDER it... I miss Planetside  .... BEFORE the major nerf to the WHOLE damn game
Originally by: Aaron Static it almost started up. more hamster jokes
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.08 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria so balanced infact that everyone would fly the same ship .. what happens to mmo's that balance everything.
I'm a bit confused. You realise CCP is trying to balance (==nerf) things so we don't end up to one-super-setup-to-rule-them-all mode?
So in ideal totally balanced model it doesn't really matter what properly setupped ship you fly -> you get the best results for the intended role based on your investment/skills etc -> people fly varied setups depending on what roles they prefer.
In totally unbalanced world there is just one uber setup; aiming for anything else would be stupid tactic wise.
-Lasse
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.08 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 08/03/2007 13:24:05 j/k
But if they did, we could all expect to be well balanced, so balanced infact that everyone would fly the same ship, with the same skill pts...
*RIP* SWG
Before we become the cry baby community that haunts games like WOW (gg u cant make anyone happy even with easy mode).Lets remember what happens to mmo's that balance everything.
Ive been in the game 10 months, everyone kicks my butt as it should be. I can go make a overpowered WOW char and own faces in 2 months..If I wanted easy mode.
If a guy has 5 billion isk burning a hole in his pocket, who the hell are you for saying he cant fly a Typhoon at 12k m/s..
Theres like 100 people in the game that can afford that....
Translation: I want to kep my nano BS, even if it goes faster than a standard interceptor and if it operates outside what gunnery and missile game mechanics can cope with properly...
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.08 15:51:00 -
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Heh yeah. -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.08 16:08:00 -
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ok seems like this may transform into another nanobs or no nanobs thread.
i'm not saying they should or shouldn't get nerfed but the fact is that u don't need 5bil. u need about 150-200mil to make a typhoon go over 5km's which is all u need to solo every single other solo ship in game without any risk of being killed and if friends turn up u can always leave in time, plus no gate camp on earth unless they are lucky can stop u getting back to the gate even with insta lock web ships.
and i can assure you there are thousands of ppl in eve with 5bil isk to put into a ship
DE
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2007.03.08 16:26:00 -
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credit card = game time card
Gametime card = ISK
therefore credit card = isk.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria
If a guy has 5 billion isk burning a hole in his pocket, who the hell are you for saying he cant fly a Typhoon at 12k m/s..
Theres like 100 people in the game that can afford that....
Couple issues with that: 1) There are a lot more than 100 people in game with over 5 billion ISK. I personally know several people to whom 5 billion isk is a bad weeks profits.
2) The problem is not with the extremely rare nanodomi/nanophoon doing 12-15k per second with full implants and a billion isk ship. The problem is that for less than 300 mil and no implants you can make a battleship that goes 3-6k per second and is still almost invulnerable.
3) Having ships that almost never lose an engagement because they can run away at will if they get in over their head is not keeping with CCPs stated intention of making it so that when you choose to engage, youre committed to seeing the battle through whichever way it goes. That was the reason for the WCS nerf. Now all the people who used to fly stabbed up vagabonds just fly nanovagas or nanophoons instead.
If it was a rare occurence, I dont think people would be so up in arms about it. But to be honest, if you pvp much at all, you almost have to go into every fight with a low slot heavy battleship assuming its a nano setup, because there are so many of them. Just like you used to go into every fight with a vagabond assuming the guy had WCS on and would just run away if you did manage to get him in trouble.
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Lamias
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Posted - 2007.03.08 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran credit card = game time card
Gametime card = ISK
therefore credit card = isk.
Sad but true....also sad that it's impossible to prevent.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2007.03.08 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kelsenn And to "balance" it even more, they would nerf it so bad a frigate with EM missiles could kill it solo.
BFR's are easy to kill, get some jammer nades, some deci's, get on an ATV, ride up under it and hot drop off the ATV, jammer it then unleash the deci's. Dead BFR in seconds.
I loved that game, but everything SOE touched eventually turned to crap. 
Ah well, there's still the memory of firing from atop Oshur's mountains onto the base below, locked in a massive three way that didn't end for days. Such a beautiful game, so brutally butchered...
(and yes, I'm bitter for spending the first two years of EVE's life playing it when I could have been here )
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Major Stuart
Caldari Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.03.08 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stuart on 08/03/2007 19:38:52 man i miss pre NGE swg, i wonder if they have added more ships like they said they would (only reason to play SWG now is for the space combat)
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Liv Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.08 20:04:00 -
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Quote: NOT FUNNY! SOE will never get another penny from me, not after they butchered SWG into the moronic game that it is today for the kiddies en masse. ....
i ll share your pain, and others do too.
there are people working on pre cu swg servers, mebbe they succeed.
http://www.swgemu.com/
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.03.08 20:32:00 -
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If SOE took over EVE then one side would be flying apollo space capsules while the other get nice futuristic technology.
Seriously. WWII-era flak vs homing plasma beams. Which one makes better AA Smokejumper? WHICH!?
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Lord Vigil
LEGION OF DEATHADDERS FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 21:56:00 -
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Why the hell is this posted in the Ships and Modules section?
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 08/03/2007 22:45:17
Originally by: inSpirAcy
Ah well, there's still the memory of firing from atop Oshur's mountains onto the base below, locked in a massive three way that didn't end for days. Such a beautiful game, so brutally butchered...
The giant Mt. Cyssor and the awsome 3-way fights in the crater of Searhus' Volcano, fun times, fun times . That and utilizing a bug that removed all friction from vehicals. Sure you couldn't control your vehical but sleding down MT cyssor, or the side of Seahrus at 2000km/h was fun ^^ __________________________
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:31:00 -
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Dang, almost had me go out and purchase a station pass there for a minute, so I could save a bundle and pay for all my SoE games + EVE with one deal.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:55:00 -
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Locked. It's the wrong forum, and the thread is going in the wrong direction.
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