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Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 16:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 16:51:26 Dam I am post hungry today Look warp 0 is here to stay (lets not get into that argument again) But please lets make it at least fair, ships after jumping in should not be allowed to move, untill they have declocked, should be simple enough to fix...
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.03.08 16:56:00 - [2] So, you are saying that all ships should gain the benefits of a covops cloak after jumping into a system? Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:01:00 - [3] Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 16:59:03 So, you are saying that all ships should gain the benefits of a covops cloak after jumping into a system? sorry not sure what you mean - I meant that wehn u jump from a gate you are clocked and when you jump out or move you declock - but the ships start to aling while clocked and this gives an advantage, that should not (I think) be allowed. so while they are cloacked (and its on a timer unlike fitted cloaks) they should be completly still. Until the player tells the ship to move or warp out then they shoud declock and then move. OK as I wrote this you changed your post and still got it wrong - look of the ship is moved on auto for example then the ship would not move untill it has declocked, so you would not need to wait for the timer. you would just uncloak as per normal just that you would need to align after you declocked - ok m8 it that clear now
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:02:00 - [4] Originally by: Ja'kar But please lets make it at least fair, ships after jumping in should not be allowed to move, untill they have declocked Eh? The act of moving uncloaks you.
Eilene Fernite	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:02:00 - [5] So you're asking for something that's already in the game?
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Ja'kar So, you are saying that all ships should gain the benefits of a covops cloak after jumping into a system? sorry not sure what you mean - I meant that wehn u jump from a gate you are clocked and when you jump out or move you declock - but the ships start to aling while clocked and this gives an advantage, that should not (I think) be allowed. so while they are cloacked (and its on a timer unlike fitted cloaks) they should be completly still. Until the player tells the ship to move or warp out then they shoud declock and then move. As soon as you double-click to align you de-cloak... At least in the game I'm playing Building the homestead
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Ja'kar sorry not sure what you mean - I meant that wehn u jump from a gate you are clocked and when you jump out or move you declock - but the ships start to aling while clocked and this gives an advantage, that should not (I think) be allowed. so while they are cloacked (and its on a timer unlike fitted cloaks) they should be completly still. Until the player tells the ship to move or warp out then they shoud declock and then move. That's pretty much the way it works now... you tell your ship to move, and it decloaks. Sure, it takes a second or so for the decloaking to complete, but that's not some huge advantage. Chances are if the ship escapes, it would escape regardless of a second of decloak animation. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:04:00 - [8] Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 17:02:06 Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 17:00:44 nope sorry that wrong- - in a small fast ship yor ship aligns 'as' it declocks this means that they have an advantage. It should be align 'when' you decloack Never said it was a huge issue just one that should be fixed
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:05:00 - [9] What he means is that you you have a ship that aligns after he jumps, thats a second in which he cannot be targeted because the game still thinks he is cloaked. Its never been an issue before, but I guess he has instalockers and cannot lock ships that align and warp in a second --
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 17:00:44 nope sorry that wrong- - in a small fast ship yor ship aligns 'as' it declocks this means that they have an advantage. It should be align 'when' you decloack You're talking about the graphical effect only (on your client)... As soon as you double-click, the other person can see you on the overview, and of course target... Building the homestead
Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:08:00 - [11] Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 17:05:06 You're talking about the graphical effect only (on your client)... hmm if ur right then erm, well I stand corrected So no flames and let me go in peace If am right then you need to right me a 1500 word apology But am pretty sure I am right!
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 17:05:06 You're talking about the graphical effect only (on your client)... hmm if ur right then erm, well I stand corrected So no flames and let me go in peace If am right then you need to right me a 1500 word apology But am pretty sure I am right! Well if you have 2 accounts, try it... Or get a buddy on TS to try it with you... I'm pretty sure you were fooled by the de-cloak effect... Building the homestead
Nyabinghi Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:13:00 - [13] Small fast ships get to move quickly off the gate that is their advantage. Larger, potentially more lethal ships take a much longer time to align to warp. Hell I can make a sandwich by the time it takes my cruiser to align.
Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:15:00 - [14] Well if you have 2 accounts, try it... Or get a buddy on TS to try it with you... look Dark I think I might have been fooled (I will try it out at a later time) but untill then Shhhhh I don't wanna look any worse
Wolf Pershaw	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:56:00 - [15] Edited by: Wolf Pershaw on 08/03/2007 17:53:44 Originally by: Ja'kar Well if you have 2 accounts, try it... Or get a buddy on TS to try it with you... look Dark I think I might have been fooled (I will try it out at a later time) but untill then Shhhhh I don't wanna look any worse Try gate camping for once. The ship decloaks even while aligning, watch the OVERVIEW!! You'll see them there even before the ship appears on the screen. The gate cloak is a 30sec response time on deciding what to do when jumping into a gate camp. It is different than a ship cloak which is why you need to decloak before you can recloak again. If you really wanna stop people train to fly a interdictor and drop bubbles on 0.0 gates. You'll stop all ships from warping while they are inside the bubble.
Lord Slater Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.03.08 18:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Eilene Fernite So you're asking for something that's already in the game? Yea thats what he is asking it seems, weired isant it ----------------------------------------------- YYAARRHH HAHAHA IM THE HAPPY PIRATE
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.03.08 18:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord Slater Originally by: Eilene Fernite So you're asking for something that's already in the game? Yea thats what he is asking it seems, weired isant it Did you read the entire thread? If you did, go back to school, you need it... Building the homestead
Sphynix	Posted - 2007.03.08 18:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Sphynix on 08/03/2007 18:38:50 Originally by: Ja'kar I don't wanna look any worse This might be a bit cruel of me but since you asked... This thread delivers :) BTW just for the record, i enjoyed posting on that, kinda made my day. Life looks so much more... intelligent now! Edit - to get the link working
Ikthorn Balhar Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.08 18:54:00 - [19] While cloaked after jumping into a system, ships cannot move while cloaked. As others have mentioned in the thread, as soon as you start warping, your ship will uncloak, giving you a chance to target them. However, also as it was mentioned, if it's a small ship, it will align very fast, making it very hard to target before it warps out (specially if you're in a big ship and not using more than one sensor booster). Big ships will also warp out almost instantaneously if they're loaded with nanos and inertia stabilizers (happened at least once to me last night while trying to engage a raven that had just jumped into the system). Even if you lock them before they warp, they will simply mwd out of your scrambler/webber range, unless your gang has measures in place to deal with nanoships. It's just one more thing about nanos/istabs that's annoying, but you can always find ways around it.
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:23:00 - [20] Awww a pirate gate camper crying cause he cant catch ppl at the gate and gank them... Please stand-by.. the Whaaambulance is being dispatched post haste. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Ja'kar Merciless Dirty Scum Criminals	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:32:00 - [21] Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 19:29:13 A example of trolls and non-troll Sphynix: a petty annoying troll Illyria: Ambri see above Ikthorn Balhar = a good reply tell me sphynix why u got to follow me around trolling and the titan thread does not make me look worse just how bad u trolls are
Fswd	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:39:00 - [22] Ja'kar plz reroll and do the tutorial again instead of calling everybody a troll that knows how the game works...
Eilene Fernite	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/03/2007 19:29:13 A example of trolls and non-troll Sphynix: a petty annoying troll Illyria: Ambri see above Ikthorn Balhar = a good reply tell me sphynix why u got to follow me around trolling and the titan thread does not make me look worse just how bad u trolls are You missed one. Yourself.
Sphynix	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Ja'kar tell me sphynix why u got to follow me around trolling and the titan thread does not make me look worse just how bad u trolls are I don't "have to". Simple fact is that i'm at work. Bored. I read your thread, saw a flaw in the logic and wrote a response i thought might help. If nothing else it might have invoked a response as to why i read your post wrong. Instead you said my post was boring and you didn't read it (which is odd because if you didn't read it how did you know it was boring?) then continued to flame me. Ammused i continued to read and even responed to your "queries", which you flamed... As to why i posted on this topic, i think that kind of answers itself. There, i hope that answered your question? (and undoubtably its to long and you're just going to flame me again!)
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:50:00 - [25] I think it's time for all of you to shut up and let this thread die... OP made a mistake in how he thought the game worked, as have all of you at one point or another while learning to play EVE... Give it a rest, you guys don't impress anyone... Building the homestead
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:02:00 - [26] That other thread did deliver - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.

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