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Sun Ra
Reikoku
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Posted - 2007.03.09 12:17:00 -
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OK now i got my emo out of the way, could you please do something with our BS??
Typhoons: ZOMG NANOPHOON PWNZ, maybe but i refuse to fly a 1 trick gimmick ship & they already plan to nerf it/nanos while boosting amarr bs GG, afteer that it'll be useless once again
Fix: Make it a AC/drone ship, get rid of the launchers make it a 7/8 turrent ship and give it a fall off and rof bonus
Tempests: Ye this owns, cant get enough as it does fleet + close range so well, but sometimes my love for this ship blinds me to the fact other ships can do the same thing but better
Fix: shes fine
Maelstrom: ......... You really want me to cry dont ya? this ship is so useless for pvp as tempests do long range and short range far better, id imagine its ok for pve.
Fix: Stop this shield bonus for a turrent ship!! just doesnt work when you need to worry about tracking, make this ship a arty beast give rof and optimal bonus or to stay inline with the other t3 bs give it shield resistance bonus and remove a mid slot
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:17:00 -
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 Originally by: chris lares
z0mg typhoon setup for sun r4:
High Slots: 4 heavy dim nos 2 medium nos 1 medium neut 1 heavy missile launcher or probe launcher
Med Slots: 100mn ab t2 heavy cap injector t2 web disrupter
Low Slots: dual t2 large armor rep 3 hardners (kinetic, thermal and explosive) energized adaptive nano membrane t2 and a damage control t2 :] thats my pvp phoon setup mate try it. Ive had gr8 success 
Why bother?? just fly a domi, it has more drones, the drones do more damage and you can ecm at the same time
Im not saying its not possible to fit phoons and maelstroms just other races ships can do the same only ALOT better, minmatar ships mostly seemed half-arsed to me
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
Edited by: Ryysa on 09/03/2007 13:11:52
Originally by: smallgreenblur
Originally by: Ryysa
Btw, shieldtanking an acpest in pvp = meh, maybe before the stacking nerf.
You need 4 slots for scram, web, mwd, injector on an acpest. Unless you fly in huge gang where everyone does everything for you - but in that case, maelstrom is obviously the better choice.
So basically if your not in a hugh ass gang the maelstrom is just as useless as a shield tanked acpest, and if you are in a hugh gang do u really need a big tank? thats why i think shield resist bonus > shield boost
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Edited by: welsh wizard on 09/03/2007 13:17:48
Hang on, you still think Minmatar are underpowered as a whole?
Haha.
Can't you (not directed at anyone in particular) use your Typhoons 8 highs for weapons instead of nos and all those lows for damage instead of nanos/i-stabs?
I honestly have no idea and don't claim to be an expert, but to me the Typhoon looks like a damage monster. It just seems that everyones too busy flying 'flavour of the month' to try it out.
8 weapons, 6 damage mods, 5 heavy drones and a mid slot tank**, gank or tank, the old fashioned way. Possible? I'm listening.
**Obviously no tackle so you'd fly it like a Raven.
Sure but you'd have to omit speed boost for a decent tank or scram and ravens dont need to worry about tracking & range
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:38:00 -
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Only nub FC dont switch targets if you can see your gang cant out dps their tank, i mean comon they sat there for 4mins shooting the same ship ? 
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur
sgb
P.S. lol at the dude who says you can get a damage monster from the phoon with split weapons system and 6 damage mods in lows. I tried that setup (trained t2 torps for it actually) and with good skills including maxed turrets and maxed drones I got about 750dps with full t2 damage ammo. My tempy does about 950 and my mael just over 1000dps. Split bonus sucks, nuff said.
sgb
Not to mention the phoons cruddy grid, tho it mite not be so bad with rigs....
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.09 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Edited by: welsh wizard on 09/03/2007 13:48:36
sgb: You fit torps and expect dps? I take it you're not a Caldari pilot :P. Ravens very rarely out dps anything and they still take BS down fast. 8 weapon alpha strike, big hits with damage of your choice, doesn't sound to bad to me especially for a tier 1 BS.
If it runs into grid problems then fair enough. Like I say I don't know much about the Phoon.
Also u can fit a temepst with 4 launchers 4 ac's easier and do more damage, and shield tank better lol, but thats pointess as ur better off with 6 ac's and 2 launchers 
Trust me any setup you can come up with on a phoon 90% of the time a pest will do it better
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Sun Ra
Reikoku
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Posted - 2007.03.09 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 09/03/2007 16:59:15
Originally by: Wizie
The less said about the Nidhogur the better. I have all cap ship skills (prereq) trained up to 3 or 4. But will not train up Minmatar carrier/dread. Until the carrier is fixed. Otherwise, at some point when I have the time to train up Gal BS 5 (26 days) I'll just do gallente carriers
Wizie o/
Yup i have gal bs5 and cald bs5 ive been considering getting either ones dread over min version 
I may have underesmited the mael abit but i really dont feel comfortable flying a close range ship without a web and scram and worry about does my gang have enough ppl to web/scram for me, its why i dont fly ravens even tho i have torp/crusie 5 and cald bs5
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