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zacuis
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rennard BOB was planning to attack D2 after ASCN, RISE has been removed to new ASCN lands to open up the border with D2, several POSes carried to Venal etc. But just to "suprize" people, they decided to attack RAGOON at the end, but RAGOON and D2 talked about this long ago that if any one of them got attacked by BOB they would help each other. BOB spies in both alliances probably learned this. So it wouldn't matter if D2 get attacked first or RAGOON get attacked first. Result would be same...
So BOB wanted to play safe and have LV at their side also, thus attacked RAGOON first knowing that D2 will come as well. But... what they didn't expect was, beside D2 and RAGOON, whole galaxy would attack them. Also AAA made a suprize move...
If RAGOON told officially that they wouldn't help D2, BOB would attack D2 instead of RAGOON first. So it's RAGOON who saved up D2's ass actually.
D2 has lotsa friends and allies, however they are no match for titans no matter what. Without RAGOON, D2 can't stand a chance.
rennard plz for the love of god just be quiet m8 i know your anti bob i know your no bob alt but the above statement makes u look totally clueless. honestly its not ment as an insult but u dont know what your talking about. and that statement proves it.
if there are people that feel that d2 is not treating them with the respect they deserve perhaps they should be talking to d2 about it or perhaps do something on the battle feild that earns that respect.
statements like this just make u the subject of riddicule. im sure this will be taken as a flame but i can asure u its not ment to be
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: scabbsssjr
Originally by: Rennard
Originally by: zacuis oh now i remember rennard u were in gaia the same gaia that war deced d2 not long ago then disbanded. u claim to be friends of d2 hmmmm say hi to ceres for me i hear his corp booted him as ceo would love to here that story. lol
I think i have proven myself several times for being anti-bob. Consider the warning, or you'll see my next thread will be "i told you"...
When is this "i told you" thread going to be published? JW cause I think it will be a good read.
In your OP, you are right, every time I have seen D2 it is a very unpleasant meeting (local trash, forum trash) and it shows that they are not what they claim to be.
/me waits to be flamed by D2.
/me thinks your contribution to this thread is null and void. especially since you are pro-xelas=pro-bob and logged off 12ppl last night at the sight of 2 Celest. have a nice logoffski.
Listen, you are not the forum warrior and know it all you think you are. Read the following points:
1. I have not logged in and played this entire week due to RL.
2. You are impling I LOGGED 12 PPL? ROFLMAO. I hope you meant Xelas/allies did it and not me. Lets not get into the whole "your friends did this or that", I do not want to waste my time countering your pathetic insults. You have a problem with Xelas take it up with them, samething with BOB.
3. Get your facts straight, your trolling is horrible, nothing in your post relates to this topic. I miss welsh/batlord in CELES, they made sense and at least were respectable on the forums (and batlord was respectable in our lil fight).
Rennard: Thank you for the reply, I was predicting it at about 2.5 weeks. ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Rennard
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:24:00 -
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Well thats what i found out actually by information i gathered through some contacts. While you try to flame me as BOB alt, in 1-2 weeks you'll see that i am not talking bullsh.t. Unless... d2 changes their attitude and treat their friends fair and same respect to all at same level...
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Rennard
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: zacuis
if there are people that feel that d2 is not treating them with the respect they deserve perhaps they should be talking to d2 about it or perhaps do something on the battle feild that earns that respect.
statements like this just make u the subject of riddicule. im sure this will be taken as a flame but i can asure u its not ment to be
zacuis, the problem is d2 management are ignoring them totally, their ignorance will start to cause some consequences soon.
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KIZERIAN
Caldari SKORPION CORP Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:44:00 -
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From the quality of replies from D2 I would say they have swung our opinion in favour of them so i guess that sort of goes against your post. GL coalition forces all power to ya. Kiz
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Red Crown on 09/03/2007 23:49:22 Caveat- Long-winded post. Warning - I freely admit I am a member of the coalition and there may be some, but there is no intended bias.
What was LV, what are RISE, YW, CoD, FIX Xelas and everyone else? Meat shields.
EMST, or Eve Meatshield theory, has a flaw in it. The coalition that doesn't exist not only blows away the meat, it also eats the meat if you will. When BoBs vassal states are driven from their lands or outright blasterized, this leaves fairly large swaths of territories that BoB cannot occupy (BoB = ~1800?), as they would be overstretching themselves, and that can be controlled by the Coalition that doesn't exist.
I'll admit to being no expert on the exact situations. But from what I've gathered, a fairly large percentage of BoBs material and ISK influx comes from these vassal states in the form of rent and taxes.
So what if BoB get a 3rd or even 4th titan, or if LV's titan isn't destroyed, or if MC pulls a titan out of its sleve. A titan is a useful tool. Annoying to no end and potentially very effective as has been demonstrated. Titans don't win wars.
BoB is a powerful military force. But without its backing, it can't win the war. I'm going to go as far as to say that the clock is ticking on BoB's vassal states. I'm supposing that a fair portion of former vassal and allied pilots will stick around after their alliances have been nix'd, but the coalition that doesn't exist sums up at over 15,000 IIRC. 3500 pilots probably can't sustain a 2 front war AND finance and support it.
I won't bother to paint a map,but BoB's niche of the galaxy is very far away from the hearts of RA, IAC, Goonswarm, D2 and the north. Coalition frontlines will be within reasonable small-gang striking distance of BoB homelands.
/end long-winded post on a fairly unrelated subject.
edit: typo "EVE is the worst MMORPG. Except for all the other ones."
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Lunarra
Paradox v2.0 Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: prsr Everyone keeps referring to a coalition that isn't there. It's quite entertaining to see people conjuring up pictures of some mighty pact that only exists in the heads of some empire players that think this forum represents what happens in-game.
Do go on fellas 
I knew it! I KNEW IT! The 799 peeps with me on that gate ready to jump your baby titan were all in my head! I did it all alone!
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THRASHER23
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.10 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rennard
Originally by: zacuis
if there are people that feel that d2 is not treating them with the respect they deserve perhaps they should be talking to d2 about it or perhaps do something on the battle feild that earns that respect.
statements like this just make u the subject of riddicule. im sure this will be taken as a flame but i can asure u its not ment to be
zacuis, the problem is d2 management are ignoring them totally, their ignorance will start to cause some consequences soon.
rennard your an idiot...plain and simple....
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