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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.10 23:39:00 -
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ME 5 - PE 1
Start Price : 15B Increment : 1B Ends : Friday 16th 20:00 Eve timr Sniper rule : 5 min Reserve : nay Delivery place : Luminaire
Happy bids...
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Eridicus
Deadworlds Reclamation Inc Ice Storm Allliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 10:39:00 -
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15B
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ingalo
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:04:00 -
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friendly bump
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AnarkiTheStorm
BloodBath 'N Beyond The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:15:00 -
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bump for one of the friendliest eve players ive ever met --- Rararar.... |
Mr Stargate
Caldari Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:34:00 -
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whoa cyber, you getting rid of this 0_o ------------
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Celestoid
Gallente Celestial Pleasures
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:03:00 -
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16b
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Batrac
Gallente Dirty Rotten Imbeciles
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:27:00 -
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20b
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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:01:00 -
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I guess you all wait for wednesday uh ?
I may recall that ME 5 PE1 means 6 weeks saved in labo. I may remind that building costs for Eos is between 40 and 50M, depending of your ability to get low minerals at cheap price. I may remind that Eos do sell at 95M each at the cheapest, and prices will go up later since Eos is really what gallente people need to to complete missions, it's just a question of time, people skill for it.
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.03.14 03:12:00 -
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If you're going to start making claims about cost to build and profit margins, you should be prepared to have those numbers refuted. The item database gives the following numbers for base price, which assumes perfect material levels (and this print is far from that level).
Eos: ISK 59.965.600,00
Now compare this to the Astarte, which I have first-hand experience in building.
Astarte: ISK 59.062.600,00
In my experience the cost to build an Astarte is actually slightly above this, in the 60-65 million range, with an ME 10 BPO using a POS assembly array giving roughly one unit per day in build time. If you're getting 40 mil as a build cost, then I hope you'll share your method with the winner of this print.
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AnarkiTheStorm
BloodBath 'N Beyond The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:09:00 -
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Cheap contracts on t2 components and building the brutix's youself from an ME 20 bpo would tend to help aswell, again bump for a good friend. --- Rararar.... |
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: AnarkiTheStorm Cheap contracts on t2 components and building the brutix's youself from an ME 20 bpo would tend to help aswell, again bump for a good friend.
I'm just saying I doubt there's a way to shave 1/3 of the build cost, unless you're not counting the Brutix in it. If someone is managing a 40 mil build cost on an Eos, I wish I knew the trick.
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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:49:00 -
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You may have building prices near to Eve base price if you just buy the needed components (fusion Reactors, Pulse shield emitter, etc.).
I for myself don't buy any component. I build them. Since I have all needed T2 components BPO, all at ME 100+, all I need to do is to buy the advanced materials. If you manage to negociate serious contracts with serious providers and for big quantities, you can buy them way below Jita's prices.
Last time I bought advanced materials to build 50 Eos, the price per Eos was below 23M. Add the Morphite and the Brutix (that you may want to build yourself too) and you should be around 45M per Eos.
I guess you can lower this price if you go deeper in the process, buying moon minerals but I was too lazy to handle that.
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cyber Baron You may have building prices near to Eve base price if you just buy the needed components (fusion Reactors, Pulse shield emitter, etc.).
I for myself don't buy any component. I build them. Since I have all needed T2 components BPO, all at ME 100+, all I need to do is to buy the advanced materials. If you manage to negociate serious contracts with serious providers and for big quantities, you can buy them way below Jita's prices.
Last time I bought advanced materials to build 50 Eos, the price per Eos was below 23M. Add the Morphite and the Brutix (that you may want to build yourself too) and you should be around 45M per Eos.
I guess you can lower this price if you go deeper in the process, buying moon minerals but I was too lazy to handle that.
I DO build all the T2 components for Astartes myself from materials. (By the way, you don't need ME 100 on those component BPOs -- most are at perfect levels at less than ME 10.) Again, I just don't see how you're saving a third of the build cost unless someone is selling you stuff at a loss.
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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:06:00 -
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My turn not to understand how you spend 65M to build an Astarte... Let's say you spend 20M to build a Brutix This means you spend 45M to buy your advanced materials ? I just checked Jita and updated my XL sheet with market prices. Without any contract and any negociation, meaning just buying the needed stuff there to build the components for 1 Eos, it would cost 22,960,345.00 isk So I really wonder how you manage to pay so much...
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Kombe
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Posted - 2007.03.14 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cyber Baron My turn not to understand how you spend 65M to build an Astarte... Let's say you spend 20M to build a Brutix This means you spend 45M to buy your advanced materials ? I just checked Jita and updated my XL sheet with market prices. Without any contract and any negociation, meaning just buying the needed stuff there to build the components for 1 Eos, it would cost 22,960,345.00 isk So I really wonder how you manage to pay so much...
Maybe he can when he wants an EoS print for a low price
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.03.14 18:30:00 -
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Well, I have to eat crow here...
I just bought materials today for Astartes, and at current prices, I'm estimating about 50 mil for an Astarte. That'll teach me not to trust out of date cost estimates I had jotted down.
I still think 40 mil is awfully low, but if you've got a nice bulk supply deal going, it's not out of the question.
My apologies.
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Dix Neuf
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Posted - 2007.03.14 21:11:00 -
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22.5b |
Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.14 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mack Dorgeans Well, I have to eat crow here...
I just bought materials today for Astartes, and at current prices, I'm estimating about 50 mil for an Astarte. That'll teach me not to trust out of date cost estimates I had jotted down.
I still think 40 mil is awfully low, but if you've got a nice bulk supply deal going, it's not out of the question.
My apologies.
You owe me one Astarte to have made me double check my XL formulas and check Jita market again. Not mentionning you spammed this auction thread and suggested I was not honest on what I said ! you evil creature !! lol
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AnarkiTheStorm
BloodBath 'N Beyond The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 21:44:00 -
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Consider the arguement a gesture towards making your print well known within the eve community :) --- Rararar.... |
Cadalan Naxor
Gallente Eternal Silence Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 22:35:00 -
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25b
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.03.15 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cyber Baron
Originally by: Mack Dorgeans Well, I have to eat crow here...
I just bought materials today for Astartes, and at current prices, I'm estimating about 50 mil for an Astarte. That'll teach me not to trust out of date cost estimates I had jotted down.
I still think 40 mil is awfully low, but if you've got a nice bulk supply deal going, it's not out of the question.
My apologies.
You owe me one Astarte to have made me double check my XL formulas and check Jita market again. Not mentionning you spammed this auction thread and suggested I was not honest on what I said ! you evil creature !! lol
I'll have to think about that.
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Whoe
Gallente Dark Nebula Gallente Division
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Posted - 2007.03.15 04:11:00 -
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he does get decent deals on building his eos as he has bought lots of 50 brutix from me in the past and I have always given him price breaks on them. so being as he's finding the cheapest raw materials ( note I'm not in his hanger or wallet to see anything first hand) but as a tech 2 builder myself he may well be building the ships at or near to the price he says. He's been a good customer in the past and if my isk wasn't set aside for other ventures I'd bid myself :)
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.03.15 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: LordKain on 15/03/2007 07:06:29
I wanna buy 50-100x built ships in a bulk. Any offer to me ingame?
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Ryysa
North Face Force Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 07:40:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 15/03/2007 07:38:04 Sorry - offtopic. There is always something called opportunity cost. Let's say theoretically, a brutix sells for 30m, you build one for 20m and then use that in the process of building the ship.
Now, your brutix has an opportunity cost, it doesn't make the opportunity cost for building your eos lower, which is what matters.
Everything has a market value, if you get things below market value, it doesn't mean they are worth less.
If you get an eos for 50m, then die with it, you still lose 90m (or whatever it's current market price is). Since if you had just sold it, you would have made 90m, out of which 40m would be profit.
Other than that, consider this a friendly bump for the best commandship bpo in game ;)
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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:22:00 -
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Last day for the auction...
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Groot Piel
Toys R Us
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Posted - 2007.03.16 11:34:00 -
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Nice bpo m8 ;) -
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Cyberette
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Posted - 2007.03.16 17:55:00 -
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im a relative of the seller, although what the relationship is.... i am unsure
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culdor
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:36:00 -
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26B
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Cyber Baron
Gallente Penguins of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.03.16 18:57:00 -
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Note : changed sniper rule to 15 min.
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Im Lonely
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Posted - 2007.03.16 19:07:00 -
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27 B
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