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Ja'Ha'Da
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Posted - 2003.12.19 05:16:00 -
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That this game is no longer fun? For all you that think it is good for you. You will change your mind with the next patch or tech 3 comes out and they nerf your tech 2 itmes and come out with even more skills for you to train up and "specialize" in.  Quote:
I think castor is a big joke.
And CCP a joke along with it. They didnt ask the little corps what they thought: yeah the ones that are getting hit the hardest by the patch due to extreme pirates and extreme jump times and o wait a minute 50-60 more skills to buy and train up. Then ontop of that the items that everyone did have went to crap that they spent hard earned cash and time on. Now you cant even use miner 2s on a cruiser due to activation cost will eat your cap. O well there are agent missions. Personally i dont like doing agent missions or mining i like hunting but of course you need 50 friend to back you up to get the good stuff and heaven forbid they lose a ship. Its hard enough to fight the pirates much less replace the high end mins it takes to build one. CCP in my opinion you screwed the pooch big time or polar bears or potatoes where ever you are from. But im sure you have heard this and you could care less till you are all broke and unemployed but ya have a week to fix it then i canceling my account. And then if i see ya out in the good ole us of a ill kik ya in the sack 
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.12.19 05:21:00 -
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I'm ROFL @ all these posts about small vs mega corps after the patch.
And not because I'm in a big corp, but because it doesn't matter of which size your corp is.
The only thing that matter is how good the players in the corp are.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.12.19 05:21:00 -
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Edited by: Shock on 19/12/2003 05:24:16
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Personally i dont like doing agent missions or mining i like hunting but of course you need 50 friend to back you up to get the good stuff and heaven forbid they lose a ship. Its hard enough to fight the pirates much less replace the high end mins it takes to build one.
Adapt or die...
The spawns that used to be normal in 0.0 space can now be found in 0.4-0.1 space (sorta).
If you are afraid to lose you ship, just play it safe then.
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unemployed but ya have a week to fix it then i canceling my account.
Actually they were planning on a long holiday to Hawai, but now they've read this...
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Czar Marcus
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Posted - 2003.12.19 05:36:00 -
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Stop saying "the little corps", what would the little people say? The problem is not about the pirates, the problem is that "things were bad already, and Castor made those things worse". I'm going to play my XBOX until my Eve subscription runs out *smirk*
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Ja'Ha'Da
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Posted - 2003.12.19 05:39:00 -
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O didnt mention that i have been playing since day 1 of eve and of course in beta. I remember armageddon in beta very fun. Not many vets are left to claim that glory. I have been thru the bistot and arknor being in the first 0.0 sector you jumped into, thru the first patch with the gate pirates raping any ship that crossed their path, thru the patch where insurance dumped hundreds of millions of isk into your account but bugged you when you used it, thru patches thick and thin i have stuck by ccp and their ability to listen to players and rectify the situation...no game i have ever played did a roll back because they admited they screwed up..now ccp know they have but guess what...they are not gonna listen to us anymore...they dont care if they keep their player base...and yeah when the nerfing comes around to you that are left and love this patch just remember it started here because they wouldnt listen and our voices werent heard
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:01:00 -
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I'm ROFL @ all these posts about small vs mega corps after the patch.
And not because I'm in a big corp, but because it doesn't matter of which size your corp is.
The only thing that matter is how good the players in the corp are.
Glad to hear that 3-5 people CAN in fact go mine Arkanor, Bistot, and Mercoxit. Without being in an alliance.  Or buy it at anything resembling a reasonable price.
I could accept that an 8-man corp is too small to go out and mine the top ore IF people would SELL the stuff without gouging. There's (supposedly) a lot more megacyte now, and mining it pays millions in bounties as you take out the battleship pirates, so there's NO excuse to charge over 10-12k for it. Then small corps could specialize in a NON-mining area (which I'd love... I hate staring at rocks) and buy their ore. But we can't buy mega at 15-25k and make any profit...
Now if there is still a shortage of Bis and Ark roids, that's another matter... but supposedly that was fixed.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:15:00 -
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I'm ROFL @ all these posts about small vs mega corps after the patch.
And not because I'm in a big corp, but because it doesn't matter of which size your corp is.
The only thing that matter is how good the players in the corp are.
Size doesn't matter?
*chuckles*
keep tellin yourself that, sparky.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:22:00 -
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5 players should be enough to mine the top ore, though of course it would be easier with more people... That doesn't mean that the isk earnt per player and per hour need to be smaller though...
However, I'm not sure how far outside empire you have to go to find it, so maybe we are blocking your way
On the other hand, I think we would be happy to trade some megacyte and morphite for tech lvl 2 blueprints...
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:29:00 -
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5 players should be enough to mine the top ore
Haha. Okay, I'll give every ISK in my wallet to the corp that can stand up to BS spawns while mining and hauling... with 5 people. Unless you have some magical way to swap configurations on the fly, you're full of shiat. =)
Veruna Caseti
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:43:00 -
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5 players should be enough to mine the top ore
Haha. Okay, I'll give every ISK in my wallet to the corp that can stand up to BS spawns while mining and hauling... with 5 people. Unless you have some magical way to swap configurations on the fly, you're full of shiat. =)
Well, not to haul while mining. That would add a 6:th and 7:th player to do the hauling.
But you can go there in indies first, with secure cans and maybe a shuttle in each. Then find a belt without NPCs, go in and anchor your cans. And then fly back with your indies to switch to your battleships (or you park your indy in a safespot bookmark in space and take the shuttle back).
Then you can go mine with 5 people.
Certainly takes a big effort and lots of time. But with 5 dedicated players you certainly can do it.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:04:00 -
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5 players should be enough to mine the top ore
Haha. Okay, I'll give every ISK in my wallet to the corp that can stand up to BS spawns while mining and hauling... with 5 people. Unless you have some magical way to swap configurations on the fly, you're full of shiat. =)
Well, not to haul while mining. That would add a 6:th and 7:th player to do the hauling.
But you can go there in indies first, with secure cans and maybe a shuttle in each. Then find a belt without NPCs, go in and anchor your cans. And then fly back with your indies to switch to your battleships (or you park your indy in a safespot bookmark in space and take the shuttle back).
Then you can go mine with 5 people.
Certainly takes a big effort and lots of time. But with 5 dedicated players you certainly can do it.
please make a video and prove us all wrong i would be happy to be wrong cause that would mean there is some hope
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Fate 427
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:12:00 -
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waaa waaa i need a video cause i dont beleive people can beat the pirates.
just because you suck doesnt mean everyone else does.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:36:00 -
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5 players should be enough to mine the top ore
Haha. Okay, I'll give every ISK in my wallet to the corp that can stand up to BS spawns while mining and hauling... with 5 people. Unless you have some magical way to swap configurations on the fly, you're full of shiat. =)
We did it tonight. 2 Apocs with beams, 1 Megathron running Projectiles, 1 Megathron doing the Deep Core mining. 1 Iteron Mk V to carry ore. I arrived to relieve 1 of the Apocs and becuase controlling the rat spawns was so easy I came up with 2 Miner IIs for Bist in addition to my turrets.
The trick is scouting. Now you aren't just looking for roids, you're looking for less nasty local rats. I wouldn't mine VELDSPAR in our home system. The rats are satanic. But in this belt, with those troops we could deep core mine and deal with 7-12 cruiser rat spawns before they chained.
OTOH we had a bad bug after about 3 hours when the DCM damage cloud spawned during a pirate spawn and CTDed every ship in the belt. No idea if it was a sound problem, graphics or what, but 4 BSes CTD during a fight with 6-10 cruisers....
That wasn't pretty. Bug reports and petitions en route ;P
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:38:00 -
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I had grave reservations pre-patch and post-patch but I've discovered that, little bugs aside, this patch kicks ass.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
DarK
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:45:00 -
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People whinge because they have gotten used to being spoonfed for the last 7/8 months. Thats now over.
I like this patch because it gets rid of the lazy whingers which add nothing to the game, leaving better quality of players which are willing to try instead of cry as soon as things get tough.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.12.19 08:25:00 -
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So the 2-3 battleship, 12+ cruiser spawns DON'T guard every single Bis / Ark / Merc spawn in the game?
VERY good to know. Looks like exploration just got profitable again... 
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Xall
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Posted - 2003.12.19 08:35:00 -
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cool man, you can give me your stuff and money thenn :)
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.19 08:37:00 -
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So the 2-3 battleship, 12+ cruiser spawns DON'T guard every single Bis / Ark / Merc spawn in the game?
VERY good to know. Looks like exploration just got profitable again...
true but you forget those other belts will just grow really fat with the rare ore, because it will just keep spawning there... and nobody to milk it so to speak
wow you call 2 or 3 ppl mining an major mining op? and then the risk of you ctd and all losing your ships... ya its not a big deal
im talking about a mega corp ops ya taking on those big bad npc's if you cant take them on then you just proved im right...
your trying to go find places were might be less pirates... im talking about taking on the hardest ones... because well those belts are there for a reason arnt they? or do you call them impossible?
when i said a video i said an effective amount of miners and haulers for a few hours taking on those 20+ npc's
ya even I could taken on 8 of those cruisers it doesnĘt take no more then 2 BSĘs or soą and you could mine but were talking about 20+ the problem with that is they will be blowing up your miners/haulers
if few just decide they rather attack someone else and not your military forces they are 100% dead
im also saying to come home and calling it a success without losing any shipsą
then see if you can repeat the same thing for a week or 2 without any losses if notą then well I think you better keep on mining for your BSĘs etcą
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.19 08:58:00 -
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Ja'Ha'Da
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:06:00 -
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Hey Dark just in case you didnt notice the numbers keep dwindling everyday that are logged on. So the peeps that you are reffering to are the ones that keep ccp in business. If you wanna split the bill for it all be my guest. But i shall not pay for a game that is gonna nerf you everytime they have a patch just so they can introduce new items. And like i said if ya like the patch good for you, just when the nerfs get outrageous and start effecting you , you will be on these boards saying what is wrong, and will ccp listen... nah.
O and paragraphs i have an opinion on that to...I think you can get an idea
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:10:00 -
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"Hey Dark just in case you didnt notice the numbers keep dwindling everyday that are logged on."
Actually, the numbers show there's roughly 1k people more playing the game since the last patch release, when compared to the same days pre-patch...
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:22:00 -
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Why is it the people who claim they hate Eve now, are the ones most obssessed with log on numbers? Please take your crap to another game and help lower that figure further.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:27:00 -
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So the 2-3 battleship, 12+ cruiser spawns DON'T guard every single Bis / Ark / Merc spawn in the game?
VERY good to know. Looks like exploration just got profitable again...
true but you forget those other belts will just grow really fat with the rare ore, because it will just keep spawning there... and nobody to milk it so to speak
wow you call 2 or 3 ppl mining an major mining op? and then the risk of you ctd and all losing your ships... ya its not a big deal
im talking about a mega corp ops ya taking on those big bad npc's if you cant take them on then you just proved im right...
your trying to go find places were might be less pirates... im talking about taking on the hardest ones... because well those belts are there for a reason arnt they? or do you call them impossible?
when i said a video i said an effective amount of miners and haulers for a few hours taking on those 20+ npc's
ya even I could taken on 8 of those cruisers it doesnĘt take no more then 2 BSĘs or soą and you could mine but were talking about 20+ the problem with that is they will be blowing up your miners/haulers
if few just decide they rather attack someone else and not your military forces they are 100% dead
im also saying to come home and calling it a success without losing any shipsą
then see if you can repeat the same thing for a week or 2 without any losses if notą then well I think you better keep on mining for your BSĘs etcą
STFU you just proved your narrow mindedness,
The guy whos actually mining the mega, has spent the time to look for potential belts where the threat isnt as high risk as the most obvious places,
just get off your fat ar$3 and look for it instead of whining about it.
Whats that you jsut lost a ton of BS's trying to do a mining op but culdnt handle the NPC spawn cos yer shiat, well dont think we all need to know how incompotent you are thanx.
Funnily enough we managed it last nite. But i dont need to go into details because i dont need to prove it.
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
Warning.....the universe just grew teeth and a pair of cast iron balls to match!!!!!
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:33:00 -
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BTW BISTOT IS SPAWNING UNGUARDED IN CERTAIN SYSTEMS YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT OR FOLLOW THE HAULERS FITTED WITH MINING LASERS.....
USE A SHIP SCANNER AND FOLLOW
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Jain Zarr
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:41:00 -
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What about all the people who are in 1, 2 and 3 man corps, what are they supposed to do now ?.
0.0 space is now a no go area for them.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:48:00 -
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Why is it the people who claim they hate Eve now, are the ones most obssessed with log on numbers? Please take your crap to another game and help lower that figure further.
/emote lights a blunt and passes it to Miso
Chill out - if you ignore it they will go away
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:58:00 -
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What about all the people who are in 1, 2 and 3 man corps, what are they supposed to do now ?.
0.0 space is now a no go area for them.
those in 1,2,3 man corps SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO MINE IN 0.0 SPACE ANYWAY
its supposed to be hard, it now is, stick to 0.4 systems and the like.
Or alternatviely find your own area of the market, be intuitive and grow, quit whining.
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
Warning.....The universe just grew teeth and a pair of cast iron balls to match!!!!!
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
Lanu
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Lanu on 19/12/2003 09:59:58
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Now you cant even use miner 2s on a cruiser due to activation cost will eat your cap.
sorry to say but i'm in a small corp ( 5 guy's ) and we mine with thorax'es with 5 mining 2 lasers and it goes well with my cap just train some energy skills...
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Jain Zarr
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Posted - 2003.12.19 10:13:00 -
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What about all the people who are in 1, 2 and 3 man corps, what are they supposed to do now ?.
0.0 space is now a no go area for them.
those in 1,2,3 man corps SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO MINE IN 0.0 SPACE ANYWAY
its supposed to be hard, it now is, stick to 0.4 systems and the like.
Or alternatviely find your own area of the market, be intuitive and grow, quit whining.
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
Warning.....The universe just grew teeth and a pair of cast iron balls to match!!!!!
I dont want to mine bist and ark and agree that small corps shouldnt be able to.
Problem is these spawns dont just stop mining they stop hunting too. I go to 0.0 space find a spawn that is so easy to kill its unture. 6-7 5-10k pirates. next system along, you need 4 or 5 bs to even contemplate it. I up to press have found no middle ground, so basically the one fun of aspect of the game for me has been removed.
Why is it everyone who posts something non complimentry is a whiner ?.
I dont expect CCP to change the game for me, I mearly pointed out why people are getting fedup. AND ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE.
Ive been in since Beta and will be in for a very long time to come. This will not make me quit, I WILL ADAPT. The problem is everytime I HAVE to adapt I have less fun.
Oh and the reason the people who love this game pay no attention to server numbers is because they are not good to look at if you like this game. If the server numbers were rising quickly all those people will sundenly be quoting server number left, right and centre to show how great the game is.
Right you can all slang away now as all those who dont like what i say will have no better response than to flame. LMFAO
Lets have some constructive disscusions instead eh.
OH AND BEFORE YOU ASK FOR MY STUFF, IM NOT QUTIING, I STILL LOVE THIS GAME (FOR NOW)
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.19 10:14:00 -
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Jo ho ho, i feel like whining so :
I'll start a quitting post
Just to anger those,
that enjoy a developing game
and dont want it to remain the same...
Get out of here please..
Eve was never meant to be a power-gamer thing.
CCP has always warned everyone that new skills and requirements for them will be added during the development of the game. So this includes that every couple of months you will find yourself having to learn a whole lot of new skills and tactics to remain at the top of the food chain.
And of course balancing the game for evryone means nerfing some items and abilities.
We all got nerfed one way or the other this week.
If you dont learn them new skills and tactics, specialise so you can reduce the amount you have to learn...
If you dont want to learn and adapt..quit.
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