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Treylon	Posted - 2003.12.19 05:54:00 - [1] have'nt been able to start a farm since the patch, did CCP nerf that too?
Czar Marcus	Posted - 2003.12.19 06:16:00 - [2] Edited by: Czar Marcus on 19/12/2003 06:21:44 Nerf is such a childish word - besides, it's already copyrighted by the toy maker Hasbro. How about using these words instead: murdered, elliminated, suffocated, terminated, abused, disrupted... Quote: Nerf (n¹rf): A trademark used for a variety of foam rubber toys. I don't know if you can chain kill pirates any longer. I suppose if you can't wait, warp to another asteroid belt within 50km. Like it or not, the pirates will still spawn in quantities of 15.
Zarquon Beeblebrox	Posted - 2003.12.19 07:48:00 - [3] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 19/12/2003 07:49:49 Well i lost my caracal yester day. was in a sys with two roid belts. Warped from one to the other killing 7.5k to 15k pirates. Sudenly some 35k bastard warped in right on top on me. I tried to warp away but somehow my ship would not warp, it just flew on 2m/s and never aligned nor warped. ESC + Quit = Pist + went to bed early = Was at work eary for once. -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.12.19 08:49:00 - [4] Go into deep 0.0 space, they spawn so much that you don't want them to be farmed. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
darth solo	Posted - 2003.12.19 09:28:00 - [5] The NPCs seem to have brains. Sat 100km from a group of 10 of them, thinking har, cant touch us. They dissapear, and spawn 20k behind us, owning our asses. come on, bring back ma old mindless money making morons. na, just kiding, think they are rather fun, except for the loss of the scorp and cruiser, darn.
Tyroon Balcca	Posted - 2003.12.19 09:52:00 - [6] I agree the new NPC's are fun, even if i did underestimate their strength and lost my Dominix, LOL
Skelator	Posted - 2003.12.19 10:56:00 - [7] Quote: The NPCs seem to have brains. Sat 100km from a group of 10 of them, thinking har, cant touch us. They dissapear, and spawn 20k behind us, owning our asses. come on, bring back ma old mindless money making morons. na, just kiding, think they are rather fun, except for the loss of the scorp and cruiser, darn. LOL sure makes the game very exciting dont it Bro They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards
Cattraknoff	Posted - 2003.12.19 11:11:00 - [8] ^^^^^^^^Ur sig from the 13th warrior^^^^^^^^^
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.12.19 13:21:00 - [9] Whine carebears whine! WAAA THE NPCS ARE OWNING US WAAA! WHY DONT THEY DIE STUPIDLY LIKE THEY USED TO? WAAA! WHY CANT WE MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WITH NO EFFORT? WAAA! WAAA! -
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.12.19 15:07:00 - [10] Quote: Whine carebears whine! WAAA THE NPCS ARE OWNING US WAAA! WHY DONT THEY DIE STUPIDLY LIKE THEY USED TO? WAAA! WHY CANT WE MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WITH NO EFFORT? WAAA! WAAA! Cookie?
Kurenin	Posted - 2003.12.19 15:15:00 - [11] ...end yourself ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming Inactivity wins you.
SwitchBl4d3	Posted - 2003.12.19 15:16:00 - [12] Quote: Whine carebears whine! can i continue where u left off WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!!WAAAAAAH!!!! "Teh lord of Nonni"
Madd Dog	Posted - 2003.12.19 17:46:00 - [13] and here some more for you Whaawhaawhaawhaawhaahwhaawhaawhaawhaawhaawhaawhaawhaawhaaawhaawhaawhaawhaa. now eat your cookie.
Eisha	Posted - 2003.12.19 21:58:00 - [14] Edited by: Eisha on 19/12/2003 21:59:38 WHAAAAAAA Wow, some of you guys reall need to read more then the first line of a post. But somehow I doubt you made it past the first line to read that. We managed to get a chain started when the surver crashed. Somehow that seemed poetic. I never understood why the NPC rat forces didn't simply built up to overwhelming number when someone started a chain. I mean someone is out there systematicy killing your peeps, you send more then a few frigats to deal with the problem right? Either that, or just stop seneding people out there. "There is a ***** in everything, thats how the light gets in." -Lenord Cohen
PariahX	Posted - 2003.12.20 12:07:00 - [15] In 0.0 space the NPCs farm players.
ColdFuzion	Posted - 2003.12.20 16:11:00 - [16] Edited by: ColdFuzion on 20/12/2003 16:12:07 chain killing is not gone its now the npcs chain kill the players
Kahlee	Posted - 2003.12.20 17:02:00 - [17] u can always hook up with your team and warp in belt every few minutes in batches of 3-4. When NPC blast u away just run to the station, pick up a new ship and get to the end of the line ---------------------------- Omniwar:You know what people do in online games to other people they cant win? Flame.
shakaZ XIV	Posted - 2003.12.20 22:13:00 - [18] hmm i had a group of npcs yesterday that did respawn the whole time. They were tuff b1/\tches so i couldnt kill all of them and every few mins the spawn just refilled back to original strength, farmed them till i ran out of ammo But really, who needs farming when they spawn in groups of 15 or so? isn't that enough? lol im glad when they DONT farm ffs :D
Haitchi Allamut	Posted - 2003.12.20 22:21:00 - [19] Hell, this is geat, I accually Lost a cruiser in 0.4 space the other day
Tyrfing	Posted - 2003.12.21 11:37:00 - [20] Quote: Whine carebears whine! WAAA THE NPCS ARE OWNING US WAAA! WHY DONT THEY DIE STUPIDLY LIKE THEY USED TO? WAAA! WHY CANT WE MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WITH NO EFFORT? WAAA! WAAA! YEAH OK HAVE A COOKIE KTHXBYE Happy new year and a lot of painted eggs :D
White Tiger	Posted - 2003.12.21 12:55:00 - [21] Quote: Whine carebears whine! WAAA THE NPCS ARE OWNING US WAAA! WHY DONT THEY DIE STUPIDLY LIKE THEY USED TO? WAAA! WHY CANT WE MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WITH NO EFFORT? WAAA! WAAA! Isn't that the same thing you do? Make lots of money with little or no effort? I for one am glad that farming is gone. The tougher NPCs make the game more challenging. White Tiger Founding Member and CEO of Tactical Advisory Group "The Only Easy Day was Yesterday."
Slithereen	Posted - 2003.12.22 00:18:00 - [22] YOu can actually exceed the cash outlay of 20 to 30k spawns (which is typical for empire space spawns and those within the 0.0 "shelf" regions) with the frigate NPCs you kill in 0.4 to 0.1 space. That's because the frigates now are in greater numbers with greater bounty. For example, a typical frigate NPC recon force may have 2 15k and 3 12.5k or 10k. That certainly gets you more than 20k or 30k even. Many total force frigate bounties easily exceed 20k. Compare this to "farming" a site full of 20ks where one 20k would materialize every few minutes, and which you often have to share with another farmer (as the spawns are often crowded). With traditional spawns, you get a lot of kills initially, but after the spawn quota is met, you only have one NPC materializing every few minutes. If that NPC spawns has frigates and you killed the frigates, your rate of income drops further. This is compared to belt spawns where a whole bunch would simultaneously spawn. The more aggressive tactics weapons of the new NPC frigates and cruisers are actually more exciting and challenging. Some NPC frigs have longer ranged railguns rather than blasters, while others now shoot light missiles all the way to 50k. Most of them lock on you around 60k or so. It's much harder for you to farm or chain aka like the "Zezman" maneuver, since placeholders are impossible now. You can sit on the belt for a new spawn to come by, or you can jump from belt to belt, which I actually find faster. The problem of the new system now is that the loot isn't as goood as you get from traditional spawns. So the increased bounty is offset from decreased sales from loot and recycle. Once in a while, you may get jumped by a cruiser or cruisers within the 30K to 45k bounty. All NPC cruisers that were previously 20k are now 30K, 30K ships are now 35K, and 40K are now 45K. Its usually a 35K or 45K leading the pack like a boss, escorted by 2 30K or 4 15 to 10K. They're very dangerous for cruiser based hunters, and when you meet them in a cruiser it's a fight for your life. On the few occasions I meet them with a cruiser, it's very exciting and quite gratifying. Generally you will find that those with short range weapons are now with long range weapons, and those that stayed with short range weapons can outrun you. I've turned full retreat on a Stabber (which has the fastest base speed for any cruiser) and even the new Marauders are still able to close in. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.

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