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Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 747	Posted - 2016.08.08 20:37:10 - [91] - Quote Priano-haani, I never said the doctrinal decisions were incorrect for the time. If for some reason the Drifters doomsday weapon again starts to hit with perfect accuracy, then the Heavy Weasel Doctrine will have to be retired quickly. You are correct that it was Lord Consort Newelle that identified the seed to the new doctrine. Once the seed was planted that we could control the Drifter's movements rather than just react to it, plus an Osprey test, the Wild Weasel doctrine was born, which evolved. This doctrine is still evolving. When I said that I had identified five vulnerabilities to the doctrine, I was not picking a number out of a hat. I also included the command changes. I am aware of those rumors and have thought of how to incorporate them into the doctrine. At this point, until rumors are facts, there's no point in worrying. Some of the vulnerabilities I have identified will require adaptation on our part. Some will require us to scrap and try something else. We'll see. For my own part, as a fleet commander, two things come to mind. Firstly, don't worry about the cost of the Basilisks. If we lost one, I'll replace it out of my pocket. I am more than willing to put my money where my mouth is. I believe in this and will continue to do so. You'll notice that I have never, ever filed for SRP for ARC Hive Ops and never will. I'm not here for filthy mammon, but to kill Drifters. I know; I look Caldari, but I am not. Secondly, I will not ever accept the idea that we need to deliberately sacrifice ships and lives just to keep the enemy happy. Not just No, but **** NO. That idea is so anathema to me, I have no actual response beyond that. The Drifters might want their pound of flesh, but I don't care what the enemy wants except to know what to deny them. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Wrecking Machine. 6113	Posted - 2016.08.08 20:59:31 - [92] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: I'm not here for filthy mammon, but to kill Drifters. I know; I look Caldari, but I am not. You do remember that Caldari don't chase profit for the sake of profit, don' t you? Profit means my dependants eat. Their children go to school. Their ailments are soothed by the best healthcare in the cluster. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 749	Posted - 2016.08.08 21:12:51 - [93] - Quote I am aware, Tuulinen-haan. I suppose my attempt at light humor fell flat. My greater point is that victory over the Drifters is a Crusade for me. One which I will pay any price or bear any burden to achieve. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1776	Posted - 2016.08.08 21:21:23 - [94] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: Firstly, don't worry about the cost of the Basilisks. If we lost one, I'll replace it out of my pocket. Once things stabilize in Delve, Ali, hit me up about these, and Guardians, if you decide to adapt to an armor-based doctrine where the J-space conditions make that advantageous. As soon as the normal revenue streams are flowing, I should be able to help out with financing properly-fitted ships. Two drifters scoring simultaneous hits like the one we saw this past week will overwhelm the C-Types. It might be worth looking into A-Types for those, even with the enhanced risk that they bring. The spirits know I've used enough of them on my Scimitars.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 749	Posted - 2016.08.08 21:25:27 - [95] - Quote I have a theoretical doctrine that uses a Guardian. Sadly, it flat does not work in Conflux. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1776	Posted - 2016.08.08 21:30:58 - [96] - Quote Next time I'm near the Throne Worlds, we'll talk. I have a crazy idea.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 750	Posted - 2016.08.08 21:40:53 - [97] - Quote Hopefully I will see you soon? For other matters we've discussed. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Kaaeliaa Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 95055	Posted - 2016.08.21 00:04:18 - [98] - Quote I would have to say that today was our smoothest Hive penetration yet, or at least that I've personally seen. Many thanks to ARC's coordinators and fleet commanders.
Slayer Liberator Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 96	Posted - 2016.08.22 20:08:37 - [99] - Quote I have a theoretical doctrine that uses damp and td cruisers and destroyers
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1799	Posted - 2016.08.22 21:36:44 - [100] - Quote That was already attempted a year ago with mixed levels of success. The Drifters adapted to it fairly quickly and it ceased having any success at all afterward. You can find our reports on it from back then here on the IGS. You are of course welcome to go try it yourself anyway, but it's likely to be nothing short of a waste of money, time and lives on your part. Kaae: As you already know, your continued presence on these operations is always welcome and I'm glad that you and everyone else come along as frequently as you do. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium Owner, The Golden Masque
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 754	Posted - 2016.08.22 21:51:29 - [101] - Quote Kaaeliaa wrote: I would have to say that today was our smoothest Hive penetration yet, or at least that I've personally seen. Many thanks to ARC's coordinators and fleet commanders. Thank you! Though, personally I found it boring. It's like all the Drifters are hiding from me now. The Seekers report that it's Alizabeth and Morwen and all the Drifters say "Oh $#!&" and scatter. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Tyrukko Sakala Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch Arataka Research Consortium 4	Posted - 2016.08.22 21:54:35 - [102] - Quote Attempting to destroy something out of hate or ego often ensures that it will be preserved and disseminated forever. As capsuleers we would be wise to remember this.
Kaaeliaa Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 95112	Posted - 2016.08.22 22:40:20 - [103] - Quote Being, at least, acquainted with the people responsible for organizing and running these operations, implying they're driven by ego is dangerously close to being insulting.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 755	Posted - 2016.08.22 22:42:28 - [104] - Quote As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Tyrukko Sakala Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch Arataka Research Consortium 5	Posted - 2016.08.22 23:41:35 - [105] - Quote Kaaeliaa wrote: Being, at least, acquainted with the people responsible for organizing and running these operations, implying they're driven by ego is dangerously close to being insulting. The Arataka Research Consortium leadership is aware that I hold them in the highest regard. The statement I made was broad, some might say vague, though if one finds it offense I apologize for turning the mirror as it were.
Slayer Liberator Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 96	Posted - 2016.08.23 00:23:26 - [106] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters. Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1310	Posted - 2016.08.23 01:07:22 - [107] - Quote Slayer Liberator wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters. Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you? If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1802	Posted - 2016.08.23 02:00:59 - [108] - Quote Slayer Liberator wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters. Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you? These operations have never been particularly profitable compared to most alternatives, and likely will not be for a long time, if ever. Most people are flying with us simply because they feel it's the right thing to do. Or because it's something new and interesting for them, and we are quite literally the only organization running such operations. But very few involved are solely interested in profits, and even those who ask seem to not mind the lack of significant compensation for the time and effort involved. Elmund Egivand wrote: If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later. Honestly, I'd expect circadian rhythms to be your biggest barrier to participation, not standings. Standings are absolutely not a barrier unless you turn them into one through sheer force of your own willpower. Just ask Khaprice - she flies with us on the regular, despite actively serving in the TLF. She has absolutely no issues handling the naval and police patrols, and I can't see why you would either. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium Owner, The Golden Masque
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1310	Posted - 2016.08.23 03:18:53 - [109] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later. Honestly, I'd expect circadian rhythms to be your biggest barrier to participation, not standings. Standings are absolutely not a barrier unless you turn them into one through sheer force of your own willpower. Just ask Khaprice - she flies with us on the regular, despite actively serving in the TLF. She has absolutely no issues handling the naval and police patrols, and I can't see why you would either. If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight. Maybe I ask again. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 755	Posted - 2016.08.23 03:30:34 - [110] - Quote If you are coming with us to kill Drifters, no one in the fleet will shoot at you. I cannot make promises for pilots not in my fleet. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1310	Posted - 2016.08.23 03:32:56 - [111] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: If you are coming with us to kill Drifters, no one in the fleet will shoot at you. I cannot make promises for pilots not in my fleet. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 755	Posted - 2016.08.23 03:41:31 - [112] - Quote Join the channel Consortium Operations. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2768	Posted - 2016.08.23 04:25:14 - [113] - Quote Ahh, Alizabeth Vea. The one who was disgracing both Caldari State and Amarr Empire with her foul words in IGS chat channel, is now inviting Feds to her operations. I should have learned it faster about her true nature, now I see why she was attacking Caldari officers out of blue. Her treason to the Empire is now obvious. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1803	Posted - 2016.08.23 05:27:26 - [114] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight. Maybe I ask again. You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be. While the fleet will not actively defend you from wartargets due to Crimewatch restrictions, nobody in the fleet will engage you without your explicitly-given permission. If they do, then they put their future attendance on ops at risk. We've had pilots from both the 24th and the TLF at the same time, as well as the Protectorate. The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express." Basically, you're on your own getting from staging to the entry location (which we provide in fleet, and in some cases can move a ship for you) and then from there into the wormhole. Aside from that, you're part of the fleet and get all of the associated benefits. As noted, there is a channel you can join via the Neocom, and a mailing list by the same name. We announce operations there. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium Owner, The Golden Masque
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 755	Posted - 2016.08.23 05:36:21 - [115] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express." Though if someone pipes the doomsday sound through the comms again, there might just be a commissaring. Mr. Egivand, the next operation is at 0200 on the 27th. Late Friday night/early Saturday morning operation. I hope you can make it. Diana Kim wrote: Ahh, Alizabeth Vea. The one who was disgracing both Caldari State and Amarr Empire with her foul words in IGS chat channel, is now inviting Feds to her operations. I should have learned it faster about her true nature, now I see why she was attacking Caldari officers out of blue. Her treason to the Empire is now obvious. Yes, an Amarr should never invite a 'Fed' to anything. Wait a minute. Empress Jamyl's funeral in Dam-Torsad was attended by the President of the Gallente Federation. Go ahead. Accuse the Chamberlain of being a traitor to the Empire. Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum. Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice. "Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I SFRIM Evocatus.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1311	Posted - 2016.08.23 06:46:13 - [116] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight. Maybe I ask again. You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be. While the fleet will not actively defend you from wartargets due to Crimewatch restrictions, nobody in the fleet will engage you without your explicitly-given permission. If they do, then they put their future attendance on ops at risk. We've had pilots from both the 24th and the TLF at the same time, as well as the Protectorate. The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express." Basically, you're on your own getting from staging to the entry location (which we provide in fleet, and in some cases can move a ship for you) and then from there into the wormhole. Aside from that, you're part of the fleet and get all of the associated benefits. As noted, there is a channel you can join via the Neocom, and a mailing list by the same name. We announce operations there. Gotcha, I will do exactly that and see what I can do to join up. Doctrine ships and warchests and such, standard things. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1804	Posted - 2016.08.23 06:59:50 - [117] - Quote We'll expect you, then. Standard ships for the doctrine are fairly easy on the wallet, and we do provide SRP for losses of ships that are part of the doctrine if they occur during a fleet. Feel free to mail me directly if you have any questions not answered by the channel's MOTD. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium Owner, The Golden Masque
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Wrecking Machine. 6150	Posted - 2016.08.23 21:49:38 - [118] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Morwen Lagann wrote: [quote=Elmund Egivand]If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight. Maybe I ask again. You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be. It's in a wormhole. Pucker factor is quite high, since everybody is a legal target of everybody else but in both the Ops I've attended manners has kept things civil. Basically, we're all guests, FC is the host and for me, personally, firing on something the FC doesn't tell me to fire on feels just... weird. Still you're the one with the poor taste to be in the FDU.... All joking aside, your biggest issue is likely to be the local uniforms, who won't take kindly to you loitering in the system where the entrance is, waiting for the order to enter. For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1315	Posted - 2016.08.24 01:23:23 - [119] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: It's in a wormhole. Pucker factor is quite high, since everybody is a legal target of everybody else but in both the Ops I've attended manners has kept things civil. Basically, we're all guests, FC is the host and for me, personally, firing on something the FC doesn't tell me to fire on feels just... weird. Still you're the one with the poor taste to be in the FDU.... All joking aside, your biggest issue is likely to be the local uniforms, who won't take kindly to you loitering in the system where the entrance is, waiting for the order to enter. Mr. Tuulinen, you have messed up the quotation system. Yes, my biggest issue is with the local patrols. However, I was advised that a system to get to undock and bugger off quickly before the patrols could respond was already in place. This hopefully will solve my quibble with the local authorities. I kept telling people that green is a terrible colour. I tried. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Aria Jenneth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 2197	Posted - 2016.08.24 14:27:13 - [120] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Mr. Tuulinen, you have messed up the quotation system. Yes, my biggest issue is with the local patrols. However, I was advised that a system to get to undock and bugger off quickly before the patrols could respond was already in place. From the looks on the methodology, it seems that means no undocking, align on command with the pace of a drunkard trying to walk the straight line then enter warp. Situations like that will get my ship pointed and shot at by the local authorities before I can do anything useful. This hopefully will solve my quibble with the local authorities. I kept telling people that green is a terrible colour. I tried. I'll look forward to seeing you, in fleet Mr. Egivand. The Hives and Nexuses are something every pilot should see.

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