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Xeios
Caldari SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 13:53:00 -
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okay, ive got my new pc all figured out but i dont know alot about water cooling. (whats a good kit, what case would be best?) I figure air cooling wont be sufficient to cool a qx6700 and 2 8800 gtx's but i might be wrong, for an air cooled system i was gonna get an antec 900 some bloody great zalman HS/fan and the gfx cards already have a non standard cooler. will this actualy be sufficient? i dont know, thats why im thinking water cooling.
So what would a good water cooling kit be and what case?
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Junior Angelfire
Gallente The Last Ravens Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Junior Angelfire on 11/03/2007 14:09:55 this site has everything, i linked a water cooled case to u http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-kandolf-lcs-vd4000bws.html With that you will need to buy 2 GPU water blocks and you should use the thermaltake non-conductive coooling liquid.
and also www.frozencpu.com
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 11/03/2007 14:09:41 You really don't need water cooling. Keep in mind that whatever the parts in your computer came with in terms of cooling, they came with it because it's sufficient under normal use. So those standard fans and heatsinks that came with your CPU and GPU will do the job. You're free to use your own cooling solutions, but water cooling is pointless. Get some good airflow in your case and everything will be fine. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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Junior Angelfire
Gallente The Last Ravens Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 11/03/2007 14:09:41 You really don't need water cooling. Keep in mind that whatever the parts in your computer came with in terms of cooling, they came with it because it's sufficient under normal use. So those standard fans and heatsinks that came with your CPU and GPU will do the job. You're free to use your own cooling solutions, but water cooling is pointless. Get some good airflow in your case and everything will be fine.
The cooler your computer is the faster it runs, remember that.
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Xeios
Caldari SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Junior Angelfire Edited by: Junior Angelfire on 11/03/2007 14:09:55 this site has everything, i linked a water cooled case to u http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-kandolf-lcs-vd4000bws.html With that you will need to buy 2 GPU water blocks and you should use the thermaltake non-conductive coooling liquid.
and also www.frozencpu.com
thanks for the links.
I had considered the kandolf actualy but when i asked about it i was told it was a gimiky water cooling system and not really man enough for the job. I have no idea, i had read a couple of comments people made saying it was good so i dont know what to do, do you have one?
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Junior Angelfire
Gallente The Last Ravens Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:23:00 -
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i use ... weather cooling, a fan from my window to the back of my pc i hit record lows this winter -4 degrees celsius ^_^for cpu temp. i am thinkin about getting liquid cooling once i upgrade my pc though and i think the kandolf is the way to go, the gpu blocks though i heard area little fussy to put on the 8800s but once you get them on its smooth sailing.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Junior Angelfire
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 11/03/2007 14:09:41 You really don't need water cooling. Keep in mind that whatever the parts in your computer came with in terms of cooling, they came with it because it's sufficient under normal use. So those standard fans and heatsinks that came with your CPU and GPU will do the job. You're free to use your own cooling solutions, but water cooling is pointless. Get some good airflow in your case and everything will be fine.
The cooler your computer is the faster it runs, remember that.
What? No. Better cooling, among other things, extends the overclockability of a computer, but doesn't make it run faster if you don't configure it to run faster. 2 GHz is still 2 GHz, it doesn't matter if it's 30ŚC or 50ŚC. Unless I'm missing something big here? I mean I've owned a computer for 15 years, it's not my job or anything but I feel I know enough about them, and that knowledge makes me think you're wrong... but go ahead and correct me (other people are invited, too) if there definitely is something big I never knew before. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:42:00 -
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The real purpose of water cooling is to silence your computer.
It helps you overclock, yes, and it increases reliability by lowering heat, but most importantly it can make your computer almost completely silent.
The coolest thing though is the computer these guys made a while back with no moving parts. Not even water cooling; it used an ionizer ripped out of a cheap ionizing air purifier to cool the CPU, passive cooling on the graphics card, and a flash hard disk AFAIK.
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Trovarion
Gallente Spiritus Draconis Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:53:00 -
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no expert here but aren't flash HDs slow?
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Xeios
Caldari SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Xeios on 11/03/2007 15:16:00 Well ive been looking around and im now narrowed down to either staying air cooled, or using a swiftech kit, the only thing i need to go with the swiftech kit is a case to fit it all in. The radiator is pretty big, so i need room for that and ive gotta make sure the GTX's fit in (they're HUGE! ) Im thinking maybe the TT armor case but im not sure where the rad would go.
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 11/03/2007 14:09:41 You really don't need water cooling. Keep in mind that whatever the parts in your computer came with in terms of cooling, they came with it because it's sufficient under normal use. So those standard fans and heatsinks that came with your CPU and GPU will do the job. You're free to use your own cooling solutions, but water cooling is pointless. Get some good airflow in your case and everything will be fine.
I thought about it and will if i cant settle on W/C ive been told the 8800's run at about 60-70 degrees celcius at idle. Thats pretty warm (and not overclocked)
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easei
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 15:46:00 -
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I water cool all 3 of my computers using danger den water cooling stuff.
This is what my latest looks like (the text of pic one got messed up because I just hosted it for free)
water cooling 1
water cooling 2
Basically you can water cool any computer case, some require more modifications then others. (large server boxes work best but I've done it with mid sized)
The radiator uses triple 120mm fans cooling 2 dual core CPU's and a 7900 temp never exceeds 10 C over ambient no matter how hard I try. (I'm aware it looks crappy with the cardboard shroud but it's usually angled towards a wall so only the radioactive green side shows.
Things to keep in mind are def externally mount the radiator and for 8000's you'll need at least a double 120mm radiator. Also on kits pay attention to the diameter hose you need Larger is usually better.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 11/03/2007 16:06:31
Originally by: Dark Shikari The real purpose of water cooling is to silence your computer.
It helps you overclock, yes, and it increases reliability by lowering heat, but most importantly it can make your computer almost completely silent.
The coolest thing though is the computer these guys made a while back with no moving parts. Not even water cooling; it used an ionizer ripped out of a cheap ionizing air purifier to cool the CPU, passive cooling on the graphics card, and a flash hard disk AFAIK.
You do realise that if you want cool water, you need to cool it? Cooling the water makes more noise, than a special cooler made to be quiet _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 11/03/2007 16:06:31
Originally by: Dark Shikari The real purpose of water cooling is to silence your computer.
It helps you overclock, yes, and it increases reliability by lowering heat, but most importantly it can make your computer almost completely silent.
The coolest thing though is the computer these guys made a while back with no moving parts. Not even water cooling; it used an ionizer ripped out of a cheap ionizing air purifier to cool the CPU, passive cooling on the graphics card, and a flash hard disk AFAIK.
You do realise that if you want cool water, you need to cool it? Cooling the water makes more noise, than a special cooler made to be quiet
Well yes, which is why you use a peltier or the like, which is completely silent.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 11/03/2007 16:06:31
Originally by: Dark Shikari The real purpose of water cooling is to silence your computer.
It helps you overclock, yes, and it increases reliability by lowering heat, but most importantly it can make your computer almost completely silent.
The coolest thing though is the computer these guys made a while back with no moving parts. Not even water cooling; it used an ionizer ripped out of a cheap ionizing air purifier to cool the CPU, passive cooling on the graphics card, and a flash hard disk AFAIK.
You do realise that if you want cool water, you need to cool it? Cooling the water makes more noise, than a special cooler made to be quiet
Well yes, which is why you use a peltier or the like, which is completely silent.
Peltiers generate an awful lot of heat though that you need to cool, which is usually done by fans (that generate a lot of more noise).
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Peltiers generate an awful lot of heat though that you need to cool, which is usually done by fans (that generate a lot of more noise).
True. You could always just use a fanless water cooling system.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:58:00 -
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I don't know a huge amount on the subject but from what I have gathered from my time spent aimlessly wandering around the internet, often the case is that water cooling doesn't necessarily cool your computer any better than air cooling, the only point is less noise.
Just thought I'd throw that in there for whatever reason.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 16:57:42 I've repeatedly looked into watercooling, and it's always seemed more trouble (and money) than it's worth.
However my computer is noisy and has poor case airflow, so I will continue to consider it a possibility.
I've been looking at these guys as I'm in Europe and these guys are and they have lots of stuffs. -
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian I don't know a huge amount on the subject but from what I have gathered from my time spent aimlessly wandering around the internet, often the case is that water cooling doesn't necessarily cool your computer any better than air cooling, the only point is less noise.
Just thought I'd throw that in there for whatever reason.
Really good water cooling makes just as much noise but cools a lot better. Really quiet water cooling cools about the same (or sometimes even worse) but is basically silent.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:17:00 -
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Water cooling is better than air cooling however,
water + circuitry = short, so watch out for your many leaks. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |

Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:37:00 -
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I'm just posting to inform you that I may file a DMCA complaint as your name is too similar to mine 
Anyone remember?
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l3VGV
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas Water cooling is better than air cooling however,
water + circuitry = short, so watch out for your many leaks.
i have leaks in my WCS 1 or 2 times. GPU gives nice visual bugs and it all. just dont flood ur system whith antifreeze and other dangerous things :) best is water+vodka(80%+20%)
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