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Looblaloobla Timmay Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.08.04 15:33:36 - [1] - Quote So I have been gone from the game for 5 years. I have a Golem to run missions, but I'm not sure if it's still a viable fit. I usually run this with a Raven that is similarly fit, but remote repping each other. What do you guys think of this as a lvl 4 mission runner, and is there a way I can just solo mission 4's with my Golem? If so what would be a good fit? Low's 4x BCS II Mids 2x Large Shield Extenders II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Fields II 3x Target Painters II Highs 4x Torpedoe Launchers II 2x Medium Remote Shield Boosters II The Raven is fitted similar, but with cruise missiles.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 10344	Posted - 2016.08.04 15:49:20 - [2] - Quote Short answer: Yes... a Golem can EASILY do a level 4 mission solo. Look into an active tank setup with a Bastion Module. Long answer: The Bastion Module increases your ship's resistances as well as repair speed and amount (see: it is a "siege mode" without the damage bonus for Marauders). This means that in certain setups you can tank many thousands of DPS. I would suggest taking an active tank setup you would use for a Raven and then modifying it accordingly to suit the Golem. Also... look into MicroJumpDrives. They can "teleport" you 100km in the direction of your ship's trajectory... allowing you to get into very comfortable "sniping" position... or a quick GTFO. How did you Veterans start? The Mustache and Beard Thread
Looblaloobla Timmay Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.08.04 16:13:41 - [3] - Quote Do you have a decent setup you could share? Thanks for the info btw.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 17209	Posted - 2016.08.04 16:41:16 - [4] - Quote Looblaloobla Timmay wrote: Do you have a decent setup you could share? Thanks for the info btw. Bastion module, one or two xlasb's , micro jumpdrive, literally what ever else you want and it will work. =]\|[=
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 10350	Posted - 2016.08.05 05:10:11 - [5] - Quote Looblaloobla Timmay wrote: Do you have a decent setup you could share? Thanks for the info btw. Like I said... pretty much any active tanking setup that works on a Raven will work on a Golem... only better. Here is something I slapped together (if someone can come up with one that is better... be my guest... I suck at fitting larger missile ships). [Golem, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Micro Jump Drive Phased Scoped Target Painter Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Bastion Module I Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I (or Rigor? I get confused by this one) Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I (or Rigor? I get confused by this one) Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Salvage Drone I x5 The tactic is to grab aggro, use the Microjumpdrive to gain range, activate Bastion Mode, and pick off targets. Stop your drones from venturing too far out as NPCs will switch targets every so often. When that happens they WILL mulch your drones. You can tank about 1600 dps in omni-damage with this fit. More if you use more tanking modules. How did you Veterans start? The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 194	Posted - 2016.08.05 18:00:30 - [7] - Quote Here's a Golem fit to consider: It's obvious to say that a Golem can solo L4s very easily, so can a Raven. Because of Bastion, the Golem can be fitted differently than a Raven. For myself, I want to put out as much damage as possible. Applying that damage is the trick. I also want to have a great tank, which the Golem helps with a 7.5% shield bonus. There have been many posts on Golem fits lately, and from all those discussions, it can be concluded that there is no "one fit for all". There are different styles of play, and preferences. Some pilots like the MJD, I don't use one. some players rely heavily on drones, I rarely use them. I use to run a Golem with a Heavy Cap Booster, but found I didn't need it. My fits over the years have changed, and may change again, but this is my current Golem fit: Rigs: 2x T2 Rigors Highs: 4x T2 Cruise Launchers, fury missiles, 1005dps, 8128 volley (launchers are grouped into 2s) Bastion tractors, salvager, . . . whatever Mid: Pith B XL SB, 2x Invul. Flds (that's the tank, 1300 HP/4s 2600 in Bastion) pulsed once in a while if needed. 2x T2 TPs, T2 MGC T2 Webber, or T2 AB, or T2 MGC, or . . . it varies. Low: 4x Caldari BCUs Drones: 10x T2 lights For me, this fit works very well. I personally feel this is my best fit so far, even from posts earlier in the year. Many targets go down with one volley. Pesky frigates and elite cruisers maybe 2. Many BSs go down with 2 volleys, sometimes 3. I split the launchers to take care of the small stuff. By the time I pop the drones out, I can destroy the target with missiles, and I don't have to micro-manage or baby sit them either. I don't have to jump 100km away for position, all the L4s are within the 128km target range of the Golem. I don't have to move unless I need to head to another gate. Younger or newer players may find a need for the MJD to GTFO and save their ship. It's been a very long time since I had to do that. I think by the time a player can fly a Golem, they already have very good skills almost across the board. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Divine Entervention Bridge Four 842	Posted - 2016.08.05 18:25:29 - [8] - Quote Low DCU 3x BCS Mid LMJD Adaptive Invuln Target Painter Grappler Disrupter Large Cap Battery High 4 Cruises bastion Smartbomb Heavy Nosf Cloak Rigs 2x CCC II Golem and Marauders don't seem very effective for the amount of investment necessary. Time would've been better spent investing in carriers. Everyone loves carriers.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 17240	Posted - 2016.08.05 18:52:00 - [9] - Quote Divine Entervention wrote: Golem and Marauders don't seem very effective for the amount of investment necessary. =]\|[=
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 421	Posted - 2016.08.05 18:58:47 - [10] - Quote Divine Entervention wrote: Time would've been better spent investing in carriers. Everyone loves carriers. My level 4 mission's acceleration gate says my carrier can't go in.... So does the gate to high-sec in general.... This seems like bad advice...
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 421	Posted - 2016.08.05 19:08:29 - [11] - Quote If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you [Golem, -AFK-] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Shield Boost Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Booster II Bastion Module I Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Salvage Drone I x5 Warden II x1 Hobgoblin II x5 Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I x4000 Inferno Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I x4000 Scourge Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I x4000 Nova Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I x4000 Throw in an MTU as well - start everything and take a nap? Or you can just load regular missiles and voilla - you have an active L4 ship too - whatever works
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 194	Posted - 2016.08.05 23:02:29 - [12] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you This seems like bad advice . . . -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 429	Posted - 2016.08.05 23:09:34 - [13] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you This seems like bad advice . . . -Kirst Clearly you haven't met enough high-sec missioners to know what they are looking for in ship fitting advice...
Roci Nantes Spongeworks Ltd. Snuggle Struggle. 42	Posted - 2016.08.05 23:56:39 - [14] - Quote You likely don't need this much bling, but it should give you an idea for a fit. You can slap in a crystal implant set and some missile damage and application ones as well. [Golem, Level 4 Golem Fit] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Republic Fleet Target Painter Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Republic Fleet Target Painter Bastion Module I Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Hornet II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 194	Posted - 2016.08.06 01:27:31 - [15] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Divine Entervention wrote: Golem and Marauders don't seem very effective for the amount of investment necessary. Wow, must have hit a nerve, he rewrote his entire message. The power of one tiny smiley. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 194	Posted - 2016.08.06 01:32:37 - [16] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: [quote=Dirty Forum Alt]If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you This seems like bad advice . . . -Kirst Clearly you haven't met enough high-sec missioners to know what they are looking for in ship fitting advice...[/quote Really, c'mon baby, it's not good advice to have some one start a L4 AFK, and then go take a nap. So, is that the buzz in high-sec? I think not. Come up with some other assumption. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 198	Posted - 2016.08.06 01:41:31 - [17] - Quote Roci Nantes wrote: You likely don't need this much bling, but it should give you an idea for a fit. You can slap in a crystal implant set and some missile damage and application ones as well. [Golem, Level 4 Golem Fit] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Republic Fleet Target Painter Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Republic Fleet Target Painter Bastion Module I Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Hornet II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Actually that is very close to my fit. I didn't tell all. That will work very well. I do have crystals, and a few missile implants too. That's how I get the dps and the shield HPs. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Valkin Mordirc 2286	Posted - 2016.08.06 01:46:21 - [18] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Divine Entervention wrote: Golem and Marauders don't seem very effective for the amount of investment necessary. Wow, must have hit a nerve, he rewrote his entire message. The power of one tiny smiley. -Kirst Quote: whatever, everyone wants to ***** then have at it TIL Ralph speaks for all of us and we use emoticons for written Hive-Mind communication. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 17257	Posted - 2016.08.06 01:51:33 - [19] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: TIL Ralph speaks for all of us and we use emoticons for written Hive-Mind communication. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Vote King-Griffin 2016 =]\|[=
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 437	Posted - 2016.08.06 02:36:41 - [20] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you This seems like bad advice . . . -Kirst Clearly you haven't met enough high-sec missioners to know what they are looking for in ship fitting advice... Really, c'mon baby, it's not good advice to have some one start a L4 AFK, and then go take a nap. So, is that the buzz in high-sec? I think not. Come up with some other assumption. Must have been a lot of chatter in the last 3 months. -Kirst Why does everyone have so much trouble re-quoting? lol Anyway - this ^ coming from the guy who told him to just train for a carrier to run his high-sec missions...Because marauders aren't worth it... And then you support the ridiculously over-blinged golem... Do you see what mine uses for tank? That is overkill...even for AFK missioning. If you aren't AFK...you need even less...
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 13:26:39 - [21] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: If you are lazy, here is a nice AFK missioning fit for you This seems like bad advice . . . -Kirst Clearly you haven't met enough high-sec missioners to know what they are looking for in ship fitting advice... Really, c'mon baby, it's not good advice to have some one start a L4 AFK, and then go take a nap. So, is that the buzz in high-sec? I think not. Come up with some other assumption. Must have been a lot of chatter in the last 3 months. -Kirst Why does everyone have so much trouble re-quoting? lol Anyway - this ^ coming from the guy who told him to just train for a carrier to run his high-sec missions...Because marauders aren't worth it... And then you support the ridiculously over-blinged golem... Do you see what mine uses for tank? That is overkill...even for AFK missioning. If you aren't AFK...you need even less... I fit my ship the way I want, you can fit yours the way you want. I've made a lot of isk over the years and have a lot of mods in the inventory. If I got the bling I'm going to use it. So you have a Golem, with only 3 month old character? I really doubt you could be in a Golem so quickly, and be able to actually fly it well. The numbers don't add up to me. Or, you're another one that's afraid to post with their main Let's just move along, and get back to the OP. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 438	Posted - 2016.08.06 13:35:05 - [22] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: So you have a Golem, with only 3 month old character? I really doubt you could be in a Golem so quickly, and be able to actually fly it well. The numbers don't add up to me. Or, you're another one that's afraid to post with their main Let's just move along, and get back to the OP. -Kirst Not a very quick one are you.... My name is a hint.... I also never claimed to own a golem, because it would be irrelevant. I answered the OP's question and provided a fit that may fulfill his needs... The thread isn't all about you you know...Why don't you self destruct your golem and bling up your carrier instead - per your own advice?
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 31757	Posted - 2016.08.06 13:52:10 - [23] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: So you have a Golem, with only 3 month old character? I really doubt you could be in a Golem so quickly, and be able to actually fly it well. The numbers don't add up to me. Or, you're another one that's afraid to post with their main Let's just move along, and get back to the OP. -Kirst Not a very quick one are you.... My name is a hint.... I also never claimed to own a golem, because it would be irrelevant. I answered the OP's question and provided a fit that may fulfill his needs... The thread isn't all about you you know...Why don't you self destruct your golem and bling up your carrier instead - per your own advice? Please be nice to players who are not afraid of publicly admitting that they are blinging their ships. We should do everything we can to encourage more of them to openly admit it. Hell, the best thing ever would be a whole thread all about their precious! Don't you agree that those who can should show off? They should make everyone jealous! The admirations would be huge! Please think about it. Encouragement! ^_^ "That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 14:53:38 - [24] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: So you have a Golem, with only 3 month old character? I really doubt you could be in a Golem so quickly, and be able to actually fly it well. The numbers don't add up to me. Or, you're another one that's afraid to post with their main Let's just move along, and get back to the OP. -Kirst Not a very quick one are you.... My name is a hint.... I also never claimed to own a golem, because it would be irrelevant. I answered the OP's question and provided a fit that may fulfill his needs... The thread isn't all about you you know...Why don't you self destruct your golem and bling up your carrier instead - per your own advice? What's in a name? There's all kinds of names here. Who knows why your a dirty little alt, so don't even try that. Never said any of this was about me. This was about you and your bad advice. I never said anything about a carrier. I don't have one, you are confused on who has said what. Go back and try to read correctly. You should stop before you get in any deeper. Here's a quote from you; "Do you see what mine uses for a fit". Oh, now you say you don't even own a Golem. Then why the heck are you giving any advice at all! And you want us to go AFK and then take a nap! Really? I've never heard anyone say, "Gee wish I had a AFK fit for my Golem so I can go take nap". Give me a break! You might wake up and see your toon back at your station. Pleeeaaase, that was just really bad advice. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 439	Posted - 2016.08.06 14:57:16 - [25] - Quote I was referring to my fit...the one I posted... and the nap was not literal... And I didn't say I don't own a golem either - I said I didn't say because it isn't relevant I see the problem here - you are an idiot Also yes the carrier guy was someone else, I just got you confused because you were both spouting nonsense... PS: By all means, please link your golem fit - and all of your other bling fits. We want to worship you. Also you fly them on that character right? You wouldn't be a hypocrite hiding behind an alt would you? >,> edit: Also - you mis-quoted me....right after you complained about my not reading closely enough? Wow man...wow... Is it that hard to copy/paste?
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 18:44:31 - [26] - Quote It always comes down to this. When a person puts their foot in their mouth, when they get embarrassed about something they had said, or in order to try to save face, they have to revert to personal attacks and name calling, just as you are doing. The more you try and put something on me, the more silly you look. So please keep it up. I'm enjoying this. Doesn't phase me one bit. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 19:48:00 - [27] - Quote I am not hiding behind an alt like you are. What are you afraid of? This is my main. Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Jazmyn Stone KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 179	Posted - 2016.08.06 19:49:18 - [28] - Quote Hold on there fella, you said I was your main! -Jaz Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 19:50:08 - [29] - Quote Jazmyn Stone wrote: Hold on there fella, you said I was your main! -Jaz Baby, you are my main! -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ivan Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 1	Posted - 2016.08.06 19:51:07 - [30] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: I am not hiding behind an alt like you are. What are you afraid of? This is my main. Hey bro, I thought I was the main. -Ivan
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 19:52:39 - [31] - Quote Well, there is it, everyone wants to be a main. Trust me, there is no hiding here. Can we now get back to the OP? -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 445	Posted - 2016.08.06 20:04:48 - [32] - Quote ...Repeated calls to "get back to the OP" when you are the only one going off topic... Arguing with your own alts purely to spam the thread more with off-topic material... Troll confirmed. I've given the OP my advice for a fit I think he might like on his golem - going to stop following it now and let you troll yourself in peace. o/
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 201	Posted - 2016.08.06 21:08:20 - [33] - Quote But you keep answering me, you did the name calling. I thought with arguing between my characters, we all might get a little comic relief from all your BS, and show I'm not hiding behind any alt. I guess you were afraid to show yours because it might prove contradictory. You got called out and didn't show. But no . . . You gave the OP your advice, for a ship you don't even fly, and then say you only meant part of it literally? When were you going to tell him that? Hey baby, or dude, whomever you are, if I'm a troll, then your a troll, it works both ways. Yes, please go, and don't let the door hit you in your ass. adios, -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5143	Posted - 2016.08.13 15:57:47 - [34] - Quote Cruise missiles will almost always outperform torpedoes, with the exception of a handful of missions. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Valleria Darkmoon No Salvation Top Belt for Fun 349	Posted - 2016.08.19 09:22:59 - [35] - Quote As someone who has often used Golems for level 4s in the past a bastion, XL shield booster and two T2 invulns will tank even the highest dps missions against Sansha with ease. Don't use any bling on your tank for this (faction damage mods and TPs), it's excessive and makes you a gank target. Use a crystal set if you must. Level 5s are also quite doable by swapping out active hardners for faction/deadspace passive resist amps and well setting your mids like this: MJD, 2X rat specific resist amps (good shield compensation skills strongly recommended), 2x XL ASB, Sensor booster (range scripted), Cap booster (yes, you need this, if you get neuted you may need to cap inject in order to MJD and MJD is life). You also need to have two ASBs in case you need to reload, using cap will never be an option. The strategy for level 5s is as follows: - Blitz the mission and get out, use cruise missiles. - MJD away from the rats when you land, go into bastion and cycle the bastion off. (If you are surrounded MJD above or below the horizon). - When you come out of bastion decide if you need to MJD again or not. If not re-enter bastion and cycle it off again. The range will mean most stuff can't reach and you can safely snipe from there, fast rats that close in will point but not scram so you'll be fine to MJD again. - Kill what you must and leave. - If rats can possibly drop valuable swag: bookmark the wreck turn in the mission and warp back to the wreck in whatever you like. This is low sec so standard caution around gates is recommended. As for people coming into your mission, it is often less of a problem than you might think. Often by the time anyone finds you and probes you down you will be 200km or more off the warp-in point and there are likely to be a good group of neuting/webbing towers and sentry guns/rats looking for something to do... and... well... Let's just say your invaders are likely to be less prepared to tank a level 5 than you are. Unlike using a carrier however gated missions are your friend as they prevent people warping on top of you. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

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