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Kaleenia
Terminal Velocity Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:18:00 -
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Recently I introduced my girlfriend to eve. She loves the visuals and hearing "Warp drive active"
The question that I have is how to get her to learn parts of the game w/o her feeling like she is completely lost. She is a mission running, combat toon. What or how can i explain things that won't confuse her? IE weapon ranges, damage types etc?
She created an Amarrian character which I play using a Caldari. -1 point me! I don't know alot about Amarr at all and I'm struggling to help her train skills relative to her race. I have taken my own toon and crossed trained to use some of the same equipment but again I have no idea how or what to do w/ Amarr.
She has done an great job on her own getting her learning skills to tier 2 about level 2 or 3ish. +1 point Me!
Also she has made her way into her very own battleship. She knows alot about basic things...Using the market to buy/sell, getting from system to system, some mission running, training to use equipment and skill training.
I don't want to tell her to scrap her current toon to build a caldari one but in the long run it could save me some time.
Believe it or not she is very interested in PvP...She is mean too! W/ her medium lasers wrecking for 10 dps
Also does anyone know of some good solid basics not skill related but to help a new player enter the game and not be so confused?
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:24:00 -
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mine likes it and calls it my ***** (even in public) when she goes out on a girl evening with her sis "honey stay with your ***** i'm going out with sis" ------
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:25:00 -
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Are you for hire to get my gf into EVE? --
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:25:00 -
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eVe univ.
Tell them carebear Spitfire sent you. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:36:00 -
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well she is not my girl friend but a close female friend. To get her to at least understand what my roommate and i do with out time i built her a PC so she could play. While i thought the tutorial would help her it seems to be very challenging for people who are not gamers. She picked up some things and very quickly had more isk than i will ever make in the game but lacked the understanding to do simple things like missions.
The best way to teach is to just sit down with her and explain mechanics. I had to show her how the overview really worked and how to use that to fight rats/mission rats. When she wants to learn how to do something the tutorial did not cover i try to just sit down and help her. The one thing im not doing is dictating her skill training. She has to choose what she wants to do with out me interfering :P
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Matae
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:19:00 -
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I tried to get my wife to play but it just didn't work. I think my mistake was trying to explain things as she was trying to do them using to much info. If I had to do it again I would just let her play and answer questions as she asked them. There is a large learning curve to this game and you really can't try to explain ever aspect of how to use guns to a person that just started
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:32:00 -
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Just let them learn at their own pace. If they are newish then transversal velocity etc etc dont mean anything. Let them ask questions when they need to.
As to "amarr skills". Theres plenty of basics that all races need to address. Get engineering, mechanic etc etc up along with capskills. Where caldari shield tank she will armour tank.
Then work on gunnery support skills.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:39:00 -
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There are guides everywhere to explain everything.
That she has someone to actually explain it in person as well is an advantage, and thus Eve will become even easier to learn than it usually is. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Crydawner
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Crydawner on 11/03/2007 19:37:55 to be honest i try and hide my penchant for playing sad internet games :'(
ladyfriend: "what did you do last night then?"
me: "oh...i ...errr...mast0rbated, absolutely loads!"
ladyfriend: "oooh yeah??! what about ?"
me: "you!" *shags*
anything but admit the truth.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:08:00 -
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she could be the best pirate in eve, just have her say something provocative in local and say she is at moon xx. Which you have a deathstar at.
'Boobies' bait n switch tactics. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:15:00 -
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Never introduce your partner to Eve.
1. If she likes it you'll be her personal mule for the next year untill she has better gear then you.
2. if she doesnt like it she's going to make sure you know it.
Best option is simply not havign her know what exactly it is, so you can at least make it seem roght that youre not giving her the attention she wants.
And no, i've not even been married long yet.
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Priest Valour
Amarr Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:19:00 -
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I don't think there is any force on earth that would get my g/f to playANY MMO nevermind a sci-fi one
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Something Random
Gallente F.S.O.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:29:00 -
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My lovely lady plays eve and likes it.
Thing with this game is it is hard to push someone to do a thing as they need to understand why and it seems only time helps there. I suggest point things out such as tanking, help her lots, and dont worry too much about racial thing, any race can learn any skills. If shes started on amarr ships, get her to work on gunnery and armor tanking skills, cap, electronics and powergrid.
Wait till an interest in a profession takes hold and go from there. Find out what she wants to fly also.
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Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.03.11 20:43:00 -
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Hm, girlfriend and EVE? Impossible!
I mean she likes all the fancy ships i fly and is watching corp chat close (to look if im flirting with other girls ), but she would never get in a pod herself.
Its a good thing IMO, else i would have to share my ratting grounds with her .
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:07:00 -
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I remember a while back someone was posting in a silliest way to loose your ship thread. 'I was playing eve, GF grabs me from behind and then...censored due to non pg13 content... I lost an apoc that day.' I found that fantasy sword and sorcery games are better with relationships, you dont actually lose stuff so you can bravely charge into the face of danger to save a loved one. Not to mention that lvl 45 armor has more skin than armor. Men have big muscles and act many all the time. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |
Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
Well. It's not very hard to act manly if the face of absolutely no danger whatsoever, now is it?
Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Lithalnas Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
Well. It's not very hard to act manly if the face of absolutely no danger whatsoever, now is it?
Looking manly is all that counts in this situation. /fends of half naked girls with a stick ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |
Slash Harnet
Minmatar Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:53:00 -
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My Fiancee is never going to try eve, so I've stopped trying.
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:17:00 -
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I stopped showing my girlfriends my MMO's long ago due to extremely strange reactions from most of them ranging from public humiliation to jealousy. My current gf at least doesn't poke fun at me about the game, and basically leaves me alone. She even came over for sexy time awhile back and I got her to wait for an hour while I was finishing some fleet stuff. She watched TV in the other room, and graciously brought me beer after beer and only chuckling a little bit when she heard me talking like I was a Navy fighter pilot into my headset.
I don't know why you would really want your gf to play Eve though. For one thing, the nice part about having a significant other that doesnt play, is that you can actually turn off the game and do something different. It keeps the Eve boredom at bay if you have a life outside of Eve. Also, if you ever make excuses not to hang out, they aren't going to find you online playing Eve and bust you, unless they come to your place. How to pwn
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:30:00 -
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When introducing your girlfriend to EVE, I suggest taking it slow. Dont just expect her to enjoy eve if you ram it right in without first gently going thru the motions.
Breach the conversation with her, and ask her if she'd mind playing eve. Then if she consents, move to the be......
wait. Eve? Oh yeah. pew pew.
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo When introducing your girlfriend to EVE, I suggest taking it slow. Dont just expect her to enjoy eve if you ram it right in without first gently going thru the motions.
Breach the conversation with her, and ask her if she'd mind playing eve. Then if she consents, move to the be......
wait. Eve? Oh yeah. pew pew.
/me chokes on mountain dew How to pwn
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Kaleenia
Terminal Velocity Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:55:00 -
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The response have been very well welcomed She read some of them as well and looked at me and said I'm going to kill you next time I see you in your pod!
Am I for hire to get you spouse or girlfriend in game sure LOL
Actually she does have one thing she likes the Maladiction. I mean she drives her car 80 mph why not pilot her ship at light speed too?
Granted I completely agree w/ alot of the suggestions made on the post. She also agreed that transversal, blah blah blah is the big part that makes her feel like she is so lost. So I have backed away from trying to explain everything and just let things happen and when she asks about them try to explain them as simple as I can.
I guess I know the hardships of coming into the game in beta and not knowing the heck was going on or what I was even doing and then forcing myself to learn something that I had no instructions for. W/ other friends I have introduced the game to they ALL felt overwhelm by the interface and the vastness of it. But having gone through the vastness on my own I am pretty able to coach a new player into the game. I even strongly believe I can coach her into it as well. Who knows she might be in that fleet camping that gate sniping w/ her geddon or using that maladiction? Only time will tell.
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Timeto Die
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:00:00 -
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I was going to try to get my wife involved, but then she can give me ear ache in game too!
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Never introduce your partner to Eve.
1. If she likes it you'll be her personal mule for the next year untill she has better gear then you.
2. if she doesnt like it she's going to make sure you know it.
Best option is simply not havign her know what exactly it is, so you can at least make it seem roght that youre not giving her the attention she wants.
And no, i've not even been married long yet.
QFT.
You can also add that you may not have her as your significant other for long. I don't know how many guys have fallen to that trap. And I am being serious here - it used to be a game for some to going after the supposedly 'untouchable'.
So do so at your own risk.
Having said that though, mine speaks a bunch of languages and can get into places that I would never be able to, so there are some advantages. Exploiting internet geeks is way too easy tbh. :)
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:25:00 -
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I rolled and am planning to build a character just for my gf (soon to be fiancee ) when I introduce her to Eve...all the boring **** will be trained up far enough to where she can explore without needing to wait a long time.
The name is appropriate as well: Sira Xian _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander
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KaptnSparrow
Caldari TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas I remember a while back someone was posting in a silliest way to loose your ship thread. 'I was playing eve, GF grabs me from behind and then...censored due to non pg13 content... I lost an apoc that day.' I found that fantasy sword and sorcery games are better with relationships, you dont actually lose stuff so you can bravely charge into the face of danger to save a loved one. Not to mention that lvl 45 armor has more skin than armor. Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
i lost a tournament to the same reason, she comes, grabbs me, turns off the monitor...
and my corp mates where woundering later why i was *****ing abpu the loss of a T1 fitted merlin :) ...eve's worst pirate...
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: KaptnSparrow
Originally by: Lithalnas I remember a while back someone was posting in a silliest way to loose your ship thread. 'I was playing eve, GF grabs me from behind and then...censored due to non pg13 content... I lost an apoc that day.' I found that fantasy sword and sorcery games are better with relationships, you dont actually lose stuff so you can bravely charge into the face of danger to save a loved one. Not to mention that lvl 45 armor has more skin than armor. Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
i lost a tournament to the same reason, she comes, grabbs me, turns off the monitor...
and my corp mates where woundering later why i was *****ing abpu the loss of a T1 fitted merlin :)
Well if you lost a ship due to significant other doing <insert above pg-13 content> then:
a) don't complain. b) brag about it to corp mates c) eve mail person who killed you with explanation d) gloat on eve-o e) count your blessings f) learn to manage, ala adapt for next time
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nicocat on 12/03/2007 18:16:12
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: KaptnSparrow
Originally by: Lithalnas I remember a while back someone was posting in a silliest way to loose your ship thread. 'I was playing eve, GF grabs me from behind and then...censored due to non pg13 content... I lost an apoc that day.' I found that fantasy sword and sorcery games are better with relationships, you dont actually lose stuff so you can bravely charge into the face of danger to save a loved one. Not to mention that lvl 45 armor has more skin than armor. Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
i lost a tournament to the same reason, she comes, grabbs me, turns off the monitor...
and my corp mates where woundering later why i was *****ing abpu the loss of a T1 fitted merlin :)
Well if you lost a ship due to significant other doing <insert above pg-13 content> then:
a) don't complain. b) brag about it to corp mates c) eve mail person who killed you with explanation d) gloat on eve-o e) count your blessings f) learn to manage, ala adapt for next time
I can imagine that post-kill convo...
*Nico finds Apoc* *Nico kills Apoc*
20 minutes later...
*brrrrrrrrrng!* *Nico answers the ph... er... convo window* "Nico's Roadkill Cafe, You Kill It, We Grill It!" "Yeah, nice kill. Lost some good ****." "Well, thank you. I'm proud of killing an Apoc afk in a belt in a Sabre." "Yeah... I was getting my pole polished. Followed by freaky sex involving all kinds of tasty condiments. Enjoy the T1 lasers." *click* *Nico is suddenly not as proud of himself*
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Dread Operative
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:29:00 -
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I'm going to wait until WIS comes, my wife liked to play City of Heroes for the sole reason of dressing up a character. With the new clothing and shaping of bodies and stuff I may have found a loophole to all the spacey stuff she doesn't like. _________________________________________________________
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Edited by: Nicocat on 12/03/2007 18:16:12
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: KaptnSparrow
Originally by: Lithalnas I remember a while back someone was posting in a silliest way to loose your ship thread. 'I was playing eve, GF grabs me from behind and then...censored due to non pg13 content... I lost an apoc that day.' I found that fantasy sword and sorcery games are better with relationships, you dont actually lose stuff so you can bravely charge into the face of danger to save a loved one. Not to mention that lvl 45 armor has more skin than armor. Men have big muscles and act many all the time.
i lost a tournament to the same reason, she comes, grabbs me, turns off the monitor...
and my corp mates where woundering later why i was *****ing abpu the loss of a T1 fitted merlin :)
Well if you lost a ship due to significant other doing <insert above pg-13 content> then:
a) don't complain. b) brag about it to corp mates c) eve mail person who killed you with explanation d) gloat on eve-o e) count your blessings f) learn to manage, ala adapt for next time
I can imagine that post-kill convo...
*Nico finds Apoc* *Nico kills Apoc*
20 minutes later...
*brrrrrrrrrng!* *Nico answers the ph... er... convo window* "Nico's Roadkill Cafe, You Kill It, We Grill It!" "Yeah, nice kill. Lost some good ****." "Well, thank you. I'm proud of killing an Apoc afk in a belt in a Sabre." "Yeah... I was getting my pole polished. Followed by freaky sex involving all kinds of tasty condiments. Enjoy the T1 lasers." *click* *Nico is suddenly not as proud of himself*
:)
Was cool until I saw the bottom of your sig. Why down with alts? It fathoms me why people would try to oppress others who want to excel...
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