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xHalcyonx
Amarr
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: xHalcyonx on 12/03/2007 02:57:20
Edited by: xHalcyonx on 12/03/2007 02:57:07
I don't hear about this ship much.
Is it a viable ship if you have a tackler?
My other option is quite divergent because I would choose going to a Sabre and the Interceptor/Interdicot line.
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:11:00 -
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4 Heavy Pulse Laser II
Medium Nos
10mn Afterburner
Scrambler
Web
MAR II
DCU II
2x EANM II
Thermic Hardener
2x Heatsink II
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.12 03:40:00 -
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the zealot is very subpar in todays PvP environment.
when all the HACs are fitted for damage (granted, some of these setups are unrealistic on some HACs)
the zealot outdamages:
the Sac (who doesnt)
the Eagle when the Eagle is setup for sniping.
and thats it. the zealot was hot prior to the stacking nerf quite awhile ago, the nerf that did in the gankageddon. the zealot also has the following limitations:
lack of medslots (no EW)
low sensor strength and range (gets whacks by ecm and damps)
VERY cap dependant (heavy nos > zealot)
lazers need help (fitting problems, fixed damaged types with only so-so damage, most hit by TDs)
no drones (complete lack of versatility)
zealot needs a BIG damage boost to make it viable without radical changes. really should only be out damaged by the deimos.
 Originally by: Snuggly
It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:51:00 -
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Zealot has some issues but it is still quite a nice ship.
You need AWU 4 for this one :
4x heavy pulse II with scorch
1x warp disruptor II + medium electrochemichal with 800 charges + Y-T8 MWD/T2
MAR II, t2 thermal hardener, EANM II, 400mm RT plate, local inertia stabb + t2 nanofiber + Heat Sink II.
With Navigation 5 and Acc Control 4 i get 2.25 km/s.
It's issues i found so far - things that annoy or are just plain horrible about it :
1 - no drone bay ... it really needs one, not large but still a decent drone bay.
2 - extra mid; tackling or solo work is very hard to do in it.
More and more ppl pack heavy nos, which doesn't affect hacs in the same way. For the Zealot TD's and Heavy Nos is just plain awefull.
I have perfect cap skills with controlled bursts 4 and i find it very hard to keep my cap at 40% with WD II + guns + hardener online - i had no rigs fitted. I can get a MAR II cycle every 30 or so seconds but that is about it, probably 1 light nossing or neutralizing drone could kill my cap. By the nature of the Pulse's - high optimal, you need to control range, but how can you control range when most ships are faster and you can't webb anything ?
Due to the slot layout you are left with 2 med slots, so you need to tackle by having a superior speed and high warp disruptor range. And because you don't have a drone bay, if a drone ship managed to put some drones on you - be them med or heavy, you are left with no choice but to tank them.
Worst tactic someone tried on me was force me to control range by using MWD which increased my sig and made me a juicy target for the 5 Berserkers II coming after me. If i couldn't control range, he would have made it in <10km, then webb and nos on me.
From my end, a bit of CPU love, some extra cap and a drone bay would help a lot.
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Darwinia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.12 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: Darwinia on 12/03/2007 06:58:10
The Zealot is kind of viable.
But as stated in the previos posts, it's really vulnerable to NOS and drones.. the lack of a drone bay doesn't help it etiher. In my experience it is best used in roaming ganking gangs (with a full gank setup).
There are a lot of suggestions to improve it.. I would like see another turret HP
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.12 07:42:00 -
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Zealot is a nice ship,heres my setup(note this was in order for me to run the armor rep indef...I'd advise 3 damage mods)
Highs:4x heavy pulse II,1x 'Knave'nos.
Mids:1 10mn ab II,x5 webber,faint warp 20k scram.
Lows:1 armor rep II 2 eanm II's 1 thermic membrane II 2 heat sink II's 1 power relay(best named)
As i said,sitting in space with this setup -the nos i can use the repper indef or atleast a long time,with 4-4 cap skills.
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Crewman Jenkins
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Posted - 2007.03.12 08:19:00 -
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I want to know how many people pronounce it as "zee lot".
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Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.12 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 12/03/2007 08:22:26
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
the zealot is very subpar in todays PvP environment.
when all the HACs are fitted for damage (granted, some of these setups are unrealistic on some HACs)
the zealot outdamages:
the Sac (who doesnt)
the Eagle when the Eagle is setup for sniping.
and thats it. the zealot was hot prior to the stacking nerf quite awhile ago, the nerf that did in the gankageddon. the zealot also has the following limitations:
lack of medslots (no EW)
low sensor strength and range (gets whacks by ecm and damps)
VERY cap dependant (heavy nos > zealot)
lazers need help (fitting problems, fixed damaged types with only so-so damage, most hit by TDs)
no drones (complete lack of versatility)
zealot needs a BIG damage boost to make it viable without radical changes. really should only be out damaged by the deimos.
Wasn't the Zealot released after the stacking nerf?
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 12/03/2007 09:56:52
Zelot Machine gun sniper for fleets
H: 4 Heavy Beams II with aurora
M: MWD, 2 Sensor Booster II's
L: 3 Heatsink II, 3 Tracking Enhancer II, 1 Rep
Sit near your fleet battleships or inbetween your fleet battleships and gate and snipe enemy support trying to get close. Due to crazy ROF, you will be machine gunning enemy support down. 2 Sensor Bosoters since you kill enemys pretty much as fast as you can target.
You can also drop heavy beams to Focused Beams II, and this leaves enough powergrid to fit in a 1600 plate if you drop a heatsink.
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infraX
Caldari
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 12/03/2007 08:22:26]
Wasn't the Zealot released after the stacking nerf?
No.
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Aiden Carlyle
Caldari
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: infraX
Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 12/03/2007 08:22:26]
Wasn't the Zealot released after the stacking nerf?
No.
Depends on which stacking nerf you are discussing. hi2u infrax!
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Crewman Jenkins
I want to know how many people pronounce it as "zee lot".
If this was 5 months ago i would be one.
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Slaptastic
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Crewman Jenkins
I want to know how many people pronounce it as "zee lot".
Haha. Everyone I know calls my ship a Zeelot. I think Zellot sounds better tbh. Zeelot sounds kind of...ghey.
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ZuN3
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: ZuN3 on 13/03/2007 01:27:35
I don't really see how it could be 'zellot', obviously 'zee- lot'!
like.. tea - tee.
zea - zee?
ZEALOT.
Edit: I suppose it could be 'zeel-ot' as apposed to 'zee-lot' too. I've looked at the word for too long now and it looks wrong, y'know.. when you look at words for too long and up thinking 'wtf, does that even make sense?' 'It's not really spelled like that is it? o_O' etc
<_<
I don't even know what I say anymore, I think maybe 'zeel-ot'.
Back on topic, umm yeah give it another turret hard point!!111one. Seriously.
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:32:00 -
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Victory to all 'Zellot' fans. As most of us know, Zealot is a real word, and if you look it up on dictionary.com you will clearly see the pronounciation key say this-
"/ˈzɛlət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation[zel-uht]"
If you need further proof, Look here
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ZuN3
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: korrey
Victory to all 'Zellot' fans. As most of us know, Zealot is a real word, and if you look it up on dictionary.com you will clearly see the pronounciation key say this-
"/ˈzɛlət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation[zel-uht]"
If you need further proof, Look here
Bah, yet 'zeal' is pronounced 'zeel'. 
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Khavi Vetali
Team Americas
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Khavi Vetali on 13/03/2007 01:30:57
Originally by: ZuN3
I don't really see how it could be 'zellot', obviously 'zee- lot'!
zeal+ot (zOl'et) or (zel-uht)
Gotta love the english language, mmm?
Originally by: Itanis
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ZuN3
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:39:00 -
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Well, I think I might just continute to call it 'zeal-ot' anyway, because I think 'ze-lot' sounds even more stupid, or I might just say 'amarr HAC', lol. Good job they're not too common >_>
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Liet Traep
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:50:00 -
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Honestly just get a harbinger. It's got more firepower than a zealot (zel-uht!) a drone bay and another midslot. It loses the t2 resists but has more base armor and shield and it's a fraction of the price. It's a no brainer. I thought prophecy was in direct competition with ealot but harbinger far surpasses it. No reason to pay 160-200 mill for a t1 ship when you can get a fully insurable one for 40 mill that's superior.
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Scordite
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Posted - 2007.03.13 04:50:00 -
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Zeelot? Zellot?
Pah. Templar I say.
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Barry Cuda
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.13 05:50:00 -
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The Templar is the Amarr fighter that is deployed by carriers.
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Gabriel Aaron
Amarr
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 12/03/2007 10:24:41
100km+ Zelot Machine gun sniper for fleets
H: 4 Heavy Beams II with aurora
M: MWD, 2 Sensor Booster II's
L: 3 Heatsink II, 3 Tracking Enhancer II, 1 Rep
Sit near your fleet battleships or inbetween your fleet battleships and gate and snipe enemy support trying to get close. Due to crazy ROF, you will be machine gunning enemy support down. 2 Sensor Bosoters since you kill enemys pretty much as fast as you can target.
You can also drop heavy beams to Focused Beams II, and this leaves enough powergrid to fit in a 1600 plate if you drop a heatsink.
I will be trying this out very soon. Thanks for posting the idea.
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El'Tar
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:39:00 -
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This is off topic but, Halcyon did you used to play ogame?
I remember a guy named halcyon that did, anyway if not then sry for wasting your time 
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xHalcyonx
Amarr
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.03.13 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: xHalcyonx on 13/03/2007 18:39:54
Originally by: El'Tar
This is off topic but, Halcyon did you used to play ogame?
I remember a guy named halcyon that did, anyway if not then sry for wasting your time
Nah.
I played a similar game though, TDZK which now is doing pretty bad (such a shame), and EvE is like a 3D version of TDZK but with lots more depth than TDZK will never have. .
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